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The Pro Hillary Thread

 
 
Blickers
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jun, 2016 09:07 pm
Two new polls out, by CBS and Bloomberg. They give Hillary the lead by 7 points and 12 points, respectively.

The Trump campaign has that "taking on water fast" look. And I don't think his statements about Orlando are going to help him one bit.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Jun, 2016 11:50 pm
@Blickers,
Looks like Hillary's pro Sha'ria law is going over a treat with voters.
roger
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jun, 2016 11:57 pm
@Builder,
I can't believe there is an intelligent woman in America who would agree with anyone with the word Dice in his name. Maybe you need to grow some new sources.
Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 12:00 am
@roger,
I can't believe the number of blacks and hispanics in favour of Trump. It's such a shame the two candidates' down sides don't negate them from running at all.

snood
 
  3  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 04:20 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

I can't believe the number of blacks and hispanics in favour of Trump. It's such a shame the two candidates' down sides don't negate them from running at all.

There ain't really that many in favor...

A Washington Post/ABC survey released Wednesday shows seven in 10 Americans view the presumptive GOP nominee unfavorably, up 10 points since he announced his candidacy for president. (Hillary Clinton reached a new high in the unfavorable stakes as well — 55 percent.)

Yet even more striking is Trump’s standing with people who are black and Latino — growing voting blocks whose support is crucial to cobbling together a winning coalition. A staggering 94 percent of black voters view the real estate mogul negatively, as do 89 percent of Latinos, despite his predictions that he will “win the Hispanic vote” in November.
Builder
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 04:53 am
@snood,
Your buddy Blickers showed a much different set of results in graph form just days before now.

snood
 
  3  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 05:03 am
@Builder,
Well, believe what you want, I guess.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 12:25 pm
http://www.gallup.com/poll/192716/dems-positive-reps-candidate-ideas.aspx

I posted this link elsewhere but I'm picking a different paragraph to highlight here

Quote:
PRINCETON, N.J. -- As the two major political parties have settled on their presumptive presidential nominees, Democrats (58%) have become significantly more likely than Republicans (46%) and independents (38%) to say any presidential candidate has come up with good ideas for solving the most important problem facing the U.S. From November to February, Republicans were the most positive on candidates' ideas for solving the nation's No. 1 problem. The two partisan groups were tied from March through May.
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ehBeth
 
  4  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 01:14 pm
interesting read

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-nomination-sanders-224407

if only because I hadn't realized that Mr. Biden had publicly endorsed Mrs. Clinton

I like reading war room bits like these

Quote:
Clinton realized she needed to drive home the point that there is nothing normal about Trump.

“I’ll leave it to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants,” Clinton said in her San Diego speech, a stinging line that relieved Democrats who worried Clinton was unprepared for a scrappy fight against an unconventional candidate. Electing Trump, she said, would be a “historic mistake.”

“We didn’t get knocked off our game on anything happening day-by-day,” said Benenson, looking back on the trying days of May. “We knew we’d end up on June 7 with the majority of pledged delegates. We didn’t chase what was going on every day.” The hardest thing, campaign officials said, was not responding to Sanders’ attacks.

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Blickers
 
  4  
Thu 16 Jun, 2016 03:28 pm
@Builder,
Quote snood's source:
Quote:
A staggering 94 percent of black voters view the real estate mogul negatively, as do 89 percent of Latinos,


Quote Builder:
Quote:
Your buddy Blickers showed a much different set of results in graph form just days before now.


Not really. Here's the graph:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/Hillary%20Trump%20white%20black%20women%20men_zpspoptjf2u.jpg

Snood's source showed 94% of blacks view Trump unfavorably, mine showed 4% of blacks favored him. Pretty close agreement.

Snood's source showed 89% of Hispanics viewed Trump unfavorably, mine showed only 18% viewed him favorably, (meaning 82% viewed him less than favorably). Also reasonably close. I would say these two polls were in good agreement with each other.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 02:09 pm
@Blickers,
Poor builder, he's a stranger in a strange land
Builder
 
  1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 04:41 pm
@glitterbag,
Yeah, and what's even stranger, is that the US govt uses a 2% margin between exit polls and actual polls to detect electoral fraud in other nations, but ignores such a discrepancy at home.

Go figure.
snood
 
  2  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 04:46 pm
@Builder,
Source for that information?
Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 04:53 pm
@snood,
The graph shows the discrepancies in five states, as reported by CNN and the New York Times.

Source

Quote:
There is a 99.9% probability that this anomaly was due to election fraud.
parados
 
  1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 05:42 pm
@Builder,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_verification_exit_poll

I suggest you read "contrast with a media poll". Media polls are not accurate enough to compare to final results because of their methodology.
Builder
 
  1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 06:00 pm
@parados,
The data used was exit poll data.

All the references for source material is listed at the link.
Blickers
 
  2  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 07:34 pm
@Builder,
Quote Builder:
Quote:
Yeah, and what's even stranger, is that the US govt uses a 2% margin between exit polls and actual polls to detect electoral fraud in other nations, but ignores such a discrepancy at home.


Snood asked you for your source for that info. You ran away from answering it.

reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 09:20 pm
@Blickers,
Builder
 
  1  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 09:56 pm
@Blickers,
Quote:
You ran away from answering it.


He saw it. Can't you?
Blickers
 
  3  
Fri 17 Jun, 2016 10:01 pm
@reasoning logic,
That's a 43 minute video. This woman is sitting in her home giving her opinion on things. The question I asked Builder was, what is his source of information that a 2% difference between exit polls and the vote count means fraud?

Because I've never heard of it.
 

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