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When will Ted Cruz give up his candidacy?

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2016 04:06 pm
Anon Drops Ted Cruz ‘DC Madam Phone Documents?' (wire transfers etc )
Source: The Right Perspective April 3, 2016 AST

Twitter accounts claiming to be allied with Anonymous have dropped alleged phone records of late DC madam Deborah Palfrey, showing Ted Cruz used her services. As previously reported, an unknown prostitute was named as one of the women who allegedly had an affair with Cruz. One of the several Twitter accounts tied to a hacktivist group, hauntingly posted a screenshot of the call log, with Texas calls highlighted:Hey Teddy Cruz #Anonymous#CruzSexScandal
We dont bluff! will let the rest of you figure out the document! pic.twitter.com/nnuRioGutv

Other accounts are sharing a more detailed record through torrents, which appear to be circulating widely. The date 9/16, highlighted in the screencap, is where multiple calls were made to various hotels. The Marshall Report claims the numbers are Cruz’s private numbers.

God Like Productions reports that another number on the call log is that of a wire transfer service titled M Lhuillier LLC. GLP also reports that the original TIFS, along with pdf, ZIP, and csv file versions have all been online since 2007. he day before the alleged documents were released, lawyer Montgomery Blair Sibley, who represented the late DC madam, told US News and World Report that the call logs of his former client were already online.

Sibley said the records, which he called “very relevant” to the 2016 presidential election, will become public if he fails to reset a 72-hour countdown clock. This part of an effort to get federal courts to consider lifting a 2007 gag order on the records, preventing their release. Sibley represented Palfrey after her 2006 arrest for running an escort service popular among Washington’s upper class. In 2007, he released call logs containing about 10,000 phone numbers, which resulted in the outing of prominent political leaders including Sen. David Vitter, deputy secretary of state Randall Tobias, former Clinton administration official Dick Morris – all Republicans. He says he held back 5,000 numbers for leverage at trial – but Palfrey fired him before she was found guilty in April 2008 of money laundering and other crimes.







Read more: http://www.therightperspective.org/2016/04/01/has-anonymous-dropped-ted-cruz-dc-madam-phone-dox/


http://archives.1wise.es/deborah-jeane-palfrey-phone-records.pdf
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 12:45 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Holy crap.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 06:05 am
@Blickers,
I can't wait to see how this plays out.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 06:15 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I'd feel so much better if Kasich was the GOP nominee.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 06:23 am
@Lash,
The only good thing I can say about him is that he's an honestly Conservative Republican. WAAAAY too conservative. He believes he was doing good work signing away Planned Paranthood's money. He didn't crow about it, and hoot to the Tea Party or make a big press event out of it. But either way he hurt women's health by doing it.

I'd prefer Trump. Kasich isn't the reasonable man some might thing they're voting for. I think he'd do much better against Hillary than he would against Bernie.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 06:28 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I'm too afraid of Trump.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 07:11 am
@Lash,
Trump will never President, neither will Cruz, neither Kasich.
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 07:34 am
@bobsal u1553115,
You don't know what the future holds. Only about 60% of the eligible voters actually vote. A couple of terrorist attacks against us can bring out a significant portion of the remaining 40% and tip the election toward the nationalistic Trump, (even though he really doesn't seem to have any actual ideas what to do). Trump has a bold, brash image, and like the commercials used to say, "Image is everything".
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 10:25 am
@Blickers,
I agree; Trump has the right kind of image as the tough guy, but he's ignorant about almost anything to do with international relations and politics.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:14 am
@Lash,
Kasich would give either Clinton or Sanders a run for their money.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:17 am
@maporsche,
The problem Kasich has at this point is that the vast majority of Republican primary voters have voted for someone else. Trump or Cruz supporters would be justified in thinking that Kasich was given the nomination despite the votes of the party faithful and that won't be a win in November.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:22 am
@engineer,
Kasich instead of Ryan?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/paul-ryan-republican-nominee-convention-221522

If I were a Republican, I'd go with Ryan - simply because he's younger.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:26 am
@ehBeth,
Same problem though. Ryan would be the candidate without a single primary vote. The Trump base especially would not be pleased, not that they would vote for Clinton.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:28 am
@engineer,
Doesn't matter if neither Trump nor Cruz has 50% of the primary vote.

Everything can go back into play then.

(or at least that's how the party leaders seem to be looking at it - and it's certainly happened at Canadian nominating conventions)
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:31 am
@ehBeth,
Those are the rules, but from a practical perspective, having the party insiders give away the nomination to someone who didn't even run when the voters are calling for an outsider is bound to lead to trouble.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:40 am
@engineer,
primary voters aren't a huge group

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/03/08/so-far-turnout-in-this-years-primaries-rivals-2008-record/

Quote:
Turnout in presidential primaries varies considerably among states, and typically is lower in years when an incumbent faces no serious challenge for renomination. But looking at overall turnout rates since 1980, certain trends were clear: Combined major-party turnout fell from 25.7% in 1980 to 14.7% in 2004, before rebounding in 2008. Much of that was due to declining turnout in Democratic primaries; GOP turnout, by contrast, was relatively stable from 1980 through 2012, averaging about 10% in years with contested nominations and dipping to 7% or lower in uncontested years.

But even in relatively high-turnout years such as 2008 – and, so far, 2016 – primaries attract far fewer voters than general elections, even though (barring a contested convention) they determine whom voters get to choose from come November. In 2012, for instance, 129.1 million Americans, or 53.6% of the estimated voting-age population, cast ballots in the presidential election, versus fewer than 28 million in that year’s primaries. In 2008, 131.4 million people (56.9% of the estimated voting-age population) voted for president in the general election, more than twice the “record” number of primary voters that year.


could be that a whole pile of people would be happy to vote for a different candidate when it comes to the general election

(there are probably polls on that somewhere)
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 11:43 am
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/03/11/this-years-gop-presidential-battle-isnt-the-first-or-even-the-deepest-party-divide/
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 12:48 pm
@Blickers,
60%? Try less than 40% at a hot election.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 12:49 pm
@ehBeth,
I think Ryan is more of a realist. I think he'd matured. Not that I would vote for him, but better him than Kasich.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2016 12:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Going to scour his views... I've read widely that this is the GOP plan.
 

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