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Fri 17 Jan, 2003 03:57 pm
Several threads have stimulated my interest in Howard Dean. With this interaction, I want to connect with what available media is available on the internet. I will trust your judgement whether a link should be posted. My goal is to build a body of knowledge about Dean. Here are some links and quotes from other threads:
GOV. DEAN QUESTIONS WISDOM OF ACCEPTING ESEA MONEY
http://www.edweek.org/ew/ew_printstory.cfm?slug=33vermont.h21
Vermont's Dean tests Iowa waters
http://desmoinesregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/17755816.html
THE DEAN RECORD AS GOVERNMENT (by his PR folks)
http://www.deanforamerica.com/vermont.htm
The following is a brief excerpt (given at his web site) re: the Civil Union issue -
"You can always compromise when you are fighting over money, but there can never be a compromise when it comes to human rights. I never got to have the discussion with myself about whether or not this was a good idea for my political career. I knew I had to live with myself in or out of politics for the rest of my life, and that if I didn't support civil rights for every American, I'd just be another competent manager rotating through political office, who never stood up when confronted with a choice. I could have been politically expedient, or I could have done what was right."
Poll: Vermonters Won't Vote Dean President
Only 32 Percent In Home State Say They'll Vote For Dean
http://www.thechamplainchannel.com/news/1747861/detail.html
A presidential 'road not taken' ... yet
Vermont governor brings pluck, controversy, and song - but is his liberalism too far left for the 2002 election?
By Alexandra Marks | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0522/p02s01-uspo.html
The Brian Lehrer Show (radio show)
Howard Dean discusses what he would do if he won the Presidency.
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/01012003
Vermont Still Waits
They are still waiting for him to be a governor to Vermont.
2/1/03
Entertainment - AP
"the best possible hope for the Democrats because he's not afraid to lose,"
an interesting thought...
That is an interesting thought. Maybe it would lead to some independent thinking.
In some ways, the negatives coming out now seem to reflect a growing concern for his increasing name recognition. This, after all, is not a candidate from the set slate.
We've had unlikely candidates before who went on to win - Clinton v Bush, Clinton v Dole. And the opinion of Truman in the beginning was hardly high.
Dean was in Iowa last week, and apparently hit the right note with some people. It appears that not everybody shares the thought that all the candidates be firmly centrist. Perhaps this dose of a decidedly right-leaning president sitting now has given some an appetite for a different view?
thanks mapleleaf. he sounds like the kind of candidate who - in the eyes of a european - would bring the US back into the political mainstream.
if only ...
...and Carter sounded like the guy who would bring trust, honor and morals back to the White House; except, nice guys don't always know how to run the Federal behemoth. I agree Dean sounds good. Still, we need to dig deep.
Mapleleaf<
Howard Dean has a long way to go in seeking name recognition. That fact, along with the crowded field of Democratic presidential hopefuls, could bring Gov. Dean to the forefront in many primaries.
He has a tough campaign ahead of him. His interest in being president, though, is genuine. You are correct in saying that we must "dig deep" before we truly analyze the Dean phenomenon.
Hey, William. Where have you been?
Mapleleaf<
Thanks for asking about me. I've been here as much as possible. We just haven't posted to the same thread in quite sometime.
I find Dean an intriguing possibility for 2004.
Here's a great Dean quote:
''I became a Democrat because I identify with people who don't have all the kinds of advantages that the Republicans often have.
''I'm an odd kind of Democrat. I'm a Democrat who's hard-nosed on law and order and I'm a Democrat who is very financially conservative. But I think events have borne out my choice.
''Because if you give me a choice between the left wing of my party, which is arrogant and uncompromising, and the right wing of the Republican Party, which is basically a bunch of crackpots, who don't believe in civil liberties and want to inflict their religious views on everybody else in the country, I have to agree that idealism, despite the trappings of arrogance and the lack of willingness to compromise, that idealism has much more to be said for it than fascism.
''So I'm definitely in the right party. Anybody in either party has to deal with the extremes, but at least the extreme in my party has their heart in the right place. The extreme in the other party has no heart whatsoever.''
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/053/region/Howard_Dean_becomes_the_darlin:.shtml
Thanks Snood, I enjoyed reading the article.