I'll Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

It's a new unwritten rule around here apparently; at least for some, we must present an idea or indicate which candidate other than Ms.Clinton we are in support of and then await approval. Just the other day I was given permission to vote for whichever candidate I wanted to.

You can show what the overwhelming probabilities were. Men have been hanged on less evidence.

That was back in the mid sixties. Ralph had long since morphed into an environmentalist advocate.

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it [the study] posits an imaginary ceteris paribus world where everything was just like it was in 2000 except that Nader didn't run

Actually, it examined the down ballots of the Florida counties to show that many more Nader voters were Democrats than Republicans. Which shouldn't surprise anyone since the Democrats are pro-environment, Republicans anti-environment. Hence Gore's loss in Florida due to environmentalist votes being diverted from Gore to Nader.

Normally, there is one pro-environmentalist choice, (Democrats), and one anti-environmentalist choice, (Republicans). Nader foolishly siphoned just enough environmentalist votes away from Gore to give the whole damn election to the anti-environmentalist Bush. And now people are advocating the same disastrous course.

In 2000, Ralph Nader decided the Democrats under Al Gore were not environmentally aware enough, so he ran himself. The election came down to Florida. Bush won by less than 560 votes. Nader had over 90,000 votes. In polls, 80% of the Nader voters had Gore had a second choice. Nader's Florida votes delivered the presidency to GW Bush.

Debra, are you trying for a repeat?

I think there's also an element of "a Democratic party that would select Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve my vote, and deserves to fail."

An attitude shared by many who are able to protect themselves from governmental intrusions on their personal liberties, and don't consider the cost to the disadvantaged.

You might as well vote for Trump because Hilary is going to be the nominee.

Our way of life in the US has been perverted by corruption.

The gulf between average people and the super wealthy is growing exponentially. We are being separated between poor, largely brown workers, and ridiculously wealthy bosses, journalists, and politicians.

Our law enforcement is killing black and brown people with no consequence, and would continue unabated if it weren't for the life-risking actions of BLM and people who support them. A light is being shown on what happened to Sandra Bland, Tamir Rice, and Eric Garner, but without a president who will stand up and say NO YOU ******* DON'T ANYMORE, that light will fade.

I see only one man who I can count on to do that. The other so-called Democrat candidate profits by locking people up. Literally, not figuratively. Superpredator-hating prison-for-profit Clinton.

My man calls it loud in public. He's the only one.

The gulf is between us and them is growing.

Average people in this country now acknowledge that a college education for their children to compete in this world is out of reach. Only the elites can afford to educate their children because of the astronomical cost. Our government is charging our students ridiculous costs and withering interest rates. Our government is behind this. They are growing the gulf between rich and poor.

Do you want to ask why? It is in the best interests of this country - and all countries - to keep the rabble down. 99% of us are rabble. They must control us or we will control them. If we control them, they work for us. Right now, we're working for them. They're making out like bandits. We're fools.

Insurance in this country is unaffordable. I am a teacher who pays $200 a month for the pleasure of calling myself "insured." (Thanks, Obama!) AND THEN, I have a deductable of $500! I can't go to the doctor. We all deserve to pay a reasonable tax and get life-saving medical care. ALL of us.

I pay nearly 1/3 of my hard-earned check - and it is ******* hard-earned - to the govt etc - and the ultra-wealthy don't even pay their fair share. We're not asking for a hand-out - we're tired of bankrolling Wall Street's hand-out.

It is time for them to pay their share. Who has hoodwinked you into thinking hardworking men and women should pay Wall Street's way???

Thanks to Bill Clinton and other politicians like him who work for billionaires, the floodgates of money were opened into politics through Glass-Steagall, and I no longer have a voice in my own government. The idea of "America" and "democracy" is a joke. Laws are written by lobbyists, signed by corrupt politicians who are paid off by the ultra-wealthy - designed to make the ultra-rich even richer. As crazy as it sounds, you're seeing the results all over the US.

My life is at stake; so is yours. Our children's futures are hanging in the balance. The water we drink and the food we eat are being ruined by people like the Clintons and other politicians who get cash on the barrelhead for votes that allow these corporations to do what they please with our soil and our underground water tables.

So, those are a couple of the social issues you need to be addressing with your vote.

People like you and snood think the worst possible thing that can happen in this election cycle is if progressives who support Bernie don't vote for Hillary.

Think again.

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Line up all the "disadvantaged" people and I dare say many of them will be voting for Trump.

On January 10, 2000, America Online (now Aol.), a favorite of dot-com investors and pioneer of dial-up Internet access, announced plans to merge with Time Warner, the world’s largest media company, in the second-largest M&A transaction worldwide.[12] The transaction has been described as “the worst in history”.[13][14] Within two years, boardroom disagreements drove out both of the CEOs who made the deal, and in October 2003 AOL Time Warner dropped “AOL” from its name.

Several communication companies could not weather the financial burden and were forced to file for bankruptcy. One of the more significant players, WorldCom, was found engaging in illegal accounting practices to exaggerate its profits on a yearly basis. WorldCom’s stock price fell drastically when this information went public, and it eventually filed the third-largest corporate bankruptcy in U.S. history. Other examples include NorthPoint Communications, Global Crossing, JDS Uniphase, XO Communications, and Covad Communications.[dubious – discuss] Companies such as Nortel, Cisco, and Corning were at a disadvantage because they relied on infrastructure that was never developed which caused the stock of Corning to drop significantly.

Many dot-coms ran out of capital and were acquired or liquidated; the domain names were picked up by old-economy competitors, speculators or cybersquatters. Several companies and their executives were accused or convicted of fraud for misusing shareholders’ money, and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission fined top investment firms like Citigroup and Merrill Lynch millions of dollars for misleading investors. Various supporting industries, such as advertising and shipping, scaled back their operations as demand for their services fell. A few large dot-com companies, such as Amazon.com, eBay, and Google have become industry-dominating mega-firms.

The stock market crash of 2000–2002 caused the loss of $5 trillion in the market value of companies from March 2000 to October 2002.[15] The September 11, 2001, attacks accelerated the stock market drop; the NYSE suspended trading for four sessions. When trading resumed, some of it was transacted in temporary new locations.

The Labor Department estimates that a net 1.735 million jobs were shed in 2001, with an additional net 508,000 lost during 2002. 2003 saw a small gain of a mere 105,000 jobs. Unemployment rose from 4.2% in February 2001 to 5.5% in November 2001, but did not peak until June 2003 at 6.3%, after which it declined to 5% by mid-2005.

However, in the last 12 months the economy has created 2.3 Million Full Time jobs and 5 Million Full Time jobs total. Almost all of these are private sector jobs, the percentage of people with government jobs has shrunk. The economy took a long time to get back on track, thanks largely to Republican obstructionism. The dollar is strong, and America is leading the world out of the recession. Except for Russia-they just screwed themselves with expansionist adventures.

She, and all those like her, who have been in government positions are the one responsible for these failures.