@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Bundy & Co. isn't going to get away with anything unless the federal, state and local officials refuse to prosecute them. What do you think the chances are of that happening?
they (the Bundy's) are used to getting away with things. The government does not follow through on legal decisions against them.
Well, I don't blame the Bundys for that, and I don't think they should be killed or injured because the government is feckless. I certainly don't think the lives of law enforcement agents should be risked because there is a lack of confidence in the government's ability or will to properly handle any prosecution of crimes they can be charged with.
The idea that the Bundys need to be taken out in a firefight because the government can't properly deal with them has the ring of vigilantism to it, except the vigilantes want federal agents to be their proxies.
Let's keep in mind that despite all of the bluster and bullshit from these clowns, they are not in engaged in an effort to overthrow the government. For all I know they may think they are, but if they are, it has to be the most feeble revolution in history. This is not to say that they are not willing or capable of making a more robust effort, but we all know that at this point in time, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that one of these fringe groups will start a revolution, let alone win one. Instead the threat they present is for terrorist acts that their twisted logic tells them will eventually bring down the government. The notion is that the government will become increasingly oppressive after each attack and eventually even the Average Joe and/or Jane will take the barricades.
Of course most of them can't seem to comprehend that, even should a plan such as this work, it will be
their actions that create the tyrannical government. The power mad leaders of groups like these (regardless of the underlying ideology) understand that they are creating the monster they need to kill to have any chance at securing the power they crave, but the followers buy into the BS that is fed to them that the acts of terrorism don't create the monster, they just force it out of the shadows; revealing its true self.
In the end though, martyrs are great inspiration for revolutionaries who settle, for a while, on being terrorists. Waiting them out and cutting a deal with them for prosecution on relatively modest charges (as opposed to going for charges involving terrorism or treason) will not create any martyrs, a bloodbath will.
