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US-American view on refugees

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:14 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Thank you so much for your inside information, Walter! Trying to keep up with current events.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:18 am
@Walter Hinteler,
We're having pretty serious problems with shortages in infrastructure (enough police and other public service-type employees) as well.

Now, when you have a vehicle accident in some states, if nobody's bleeding, the cops won't come.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
As of Friday last week:
- more than 1,000 criminal charges related to the events on New Year's Eve/New Year's Day in Cologne (and still more coming,
- out of those, 443 are "sexual offences" [I don't know which],
- the prosecution investigates against 44 persons, mainly of North African origin,
- 10 persons are in remand.
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saab
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:20 am
@Lash,
It is not just a question of teaching sexual behavior, but also equal rights for men and women in Scandinavia.
Sweden has taken many young men who say they are single underaged children around 15 - 17 years old. As no tests are done noone says anything, but according to teachers etc they are around 20 - 25
Year 2015 Sweden had more men than women in the agegroup 16 1to 7
and that in the whole Swedish history. 123 men per 100 women.
This is going to cause a problem in a few years when they all are looking for a partner.
There are certain dilemmas. A family arrives, husbond older than wife who is underaged according to Scandinavian law.
What to do? Seperate them? Wife and child/ren in one place and husbond is a pedeophile according to Scandinavian law or forget it as they are according to their country a man and wife.
It is not so easy to tell people to intergrate and do as the Romans do - in this case Scandinavians.
Many European who are third or fourth generation in USA still talk about being from X contry, they still eat the same food, sometimes speak the language. We think it is wonderful that Scandinavians hang on to their old traditions.
But when the Turks still hang on to theirs after 3or 4 generations we do not always accept it.
Why has it developed in that way? I wonder myself. For me there is a big difference in living your old traditions in a new country and living them and demanding other to do as you do
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I hear what you're saying. I also read accounts that there were so many attacks that the police didn't even know about most of them. Going to perform horrid weekend chores, but I'd like to revisit this with you soon- just show you those accounts from young women and their escorts and see if you retain your opinion.

Thanks for the information.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:34 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I also read accounts that there were so many attacks that the police didn't even know about most of them.
The police (more correctly: the prosecution office) only knows of those which are reported.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I'll leave this here and force myself to do the laundry!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cologne-train-station-attacks_us_568e88b7e4b0cad15e639ee2
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:44 am
@saab,
Interesting report in today's Observer: 10,000 refugee children are missing, says Europol.

The numbers in Italy and Sweden are mentioned; I don't know those from Germany, but between January and November 2015 nearly 60,000 'unaccompanied children and youth' were registered in Germany.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 09:45 am
@saab,
Thank you so much for helping with accurate information. It's so hard to make sense of all the changes happening - especially for people like me - so far removed.

It really helps to have a first person account, saab! <3 Yours is a valuable viewpoint. I hope you'll feel free to share any anecdotes or thoughts you have on the topic.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 10:02 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I gave the figures as of last Friday in an above post.
But this report (to a minor degree - others are more "mistranslated"!) shows some of the difficulties foreign reporter and even here residing correspondences have: we have a different legal, police, judical and political system to e.g. the USA.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 11:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Another personal experience: Germans share doctor's Facebook post about harrowing work with refugees
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 11:28 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've mentioned the demonstrations against refugees by Russian-Germans. (Even in my town, there had been 200 persons demonstrating last weekend: the first and only anti-refugees demonstration.)
The Guardian/Observer now has a report in English about that: Teenage girl 'made up' migrant rape claim that outraged Germany
Some additonal information: it had been a major diplomatic affair. (Ambassador ordered to the Foreign Office). And two persons, no refugees/asylum seekers, have been questioned because the had had sexual contacts with that before. And the 19-year old, where she stayed all the time, as well ....
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 11:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
geez...
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 12:02 pm
@ossobuco,
article re this girl -

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 12:17 pm
@ossobuco,
It's the same as my link, osso.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 12:21 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Just these minutes, I've watched a report from Moscow:
the Russian admitted yesterday (!) that it might (!) have been something different than a rape by a refugee. Russian tv showed, however, again a report, where a Russian-German cleaner had been raped and afterwards nearly killed by refugees. - A Russian website journalist had interviewed that "victim": she had been an "actor" in at least six other, similar reports for various Russian tv-stations ...
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 12:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
This one girl was the source or impetus for the 1000 police reports?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 12:44 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

This one girl was the source or impetus for the 1000 police reports?
No. It was the reason for last weekends demonstrations and the political and diplomatic dispute between Russia and Germany. And happened in Berlin. (The prosecution office and the police reported already two weeks ago that it was no rape.)

Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 01:51 pm
Amorous persuasion ? ! ? ! ? You're livin' in Lala land, Lash. I suggest that you do a search for "date rape drugs+fraternities." I suggest to you that fraternities are a far more dangerous place for young women than muslim neighborhoods in Europe.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2016 02:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I missed it..
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