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Regarding the Attacks in Paris:

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:40 pm
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Retired General Jack Keane shared a similar assessment of ISIS during an interview on Fox News Sunday. "ISIS is the most successful terrorist organization that we have in modern history," Keane said. "They've exceeded al Qaeda by a factor of X some time ago. They're conducting a conventional war in Iraq and Syria where they hold large swaths of territory. At the same time in the last two weeks alone, they've killed and wounded over 900 people from the countries supporting the effort against them--Russian people, Lebanese people, and now obviously French people. That is unprecedented, and it's a stunning achievement."

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/richard-clarke-isis-much-bigger-threat-we-ever-faced-al-qaeda_1064360.html

And yet today we still see The Professor defending his do little policy, defending "ISIS is contained".......

We cant get Trump in the chair fast enough.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
You are stupid, Germany has its own laws about the Nazis and Holocaust denial which were imposed upon them by the allies at the end of the war.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
They also will send you to prison in merry old England for having a copy of Inspire magazine for example.

The EU nations have no where near the protection that the US does as imperfect as our protections can be at times.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:49 pm
@izzythepush,
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You are stupid, Germany has its own laws about the Nazis and Holocaust denial which were imposed upon them by the allies at the end of the war.


Those laws overrule the EU charter of human rights so what the hell is the charter good for when EU nations laws can overrule it?
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layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:56 pm
@layman,
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In United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, the Court held that its analysis of the Constitution “suggests that ‘the people’ protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments, … refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.” Portillo relies on Verdugo-Urquidez and argues that he has sufficient connections with the United States to be included in this definition of “the people,” but neither this court nor the Supreme Court has held that the Fourth Amendment extends to a native and citizen of another nation who entered and remained in the United States illegally.

the Supreme Court has long held that Congress has the authority to make laws governing the conduct of aliens that would be unconstitutional if made to apply to citizens....The Court pointed out in its opinion that the crucial question was whether discrimination among different types of aliens was permissible, as contrasted with discrimination between aliens and citizens and held that “[n]either the overnight visitor, the unfriendly agent of a hostile foreign power, the resident diplomat, nor the illegal entrant, can advance even a colorable constitutional claim to a share in the bounty that a conscientious sovereign makes available to its own citizens and some of its guests.”


http://volokh.com/2011/06/13/the-constitutional-rights-of-illegal-aliens-under-the-first-second-and-fourth-amendments/
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:57 pm
@layman,
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The bill of rights (first 10 amendments) only applies to States, not individuals.


Nonsense by every SC rulings for the last hundred years or more.

You must be living in some strange parallel universe.
layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:03 pm
@BillRM,
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Nonsense by every SC rulings for the last hundred years or more.


You didn't read very far, did you?
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:04 pm
@layman,
You are a nut case...........the bill of rights apply to all people living in the US.
layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:06 pm
@BillRM,
You are a nut case...........the bill of rights apply to all people living in the US.

Heh, read what I posted, chump.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:12 pm
@layman,
I could care less what you had written as what matter is that the first ten amendments once more apply to everyone in the US and that had not been in question for most of the history of the nation by one ruling after another ruling by the SC.

layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:17 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Mathews v. Diaz 426 U.S. 67 (1976)

"Congress, which has]broad power over immigration and naturalization and regularly make rules regarding aliens that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens, has no constitutional duty to provide all aliens with the benefits provided to citizens" (Justice Stevens for the majority)


https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/426/67/
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layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:19 pm
@BillRM,
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I could care less what you had written


Yeah, pretty obvious, chump. Nor do you care what the US Supreme Court says (which I have quoted).

You don't need that ****, you KNOW better!
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:24 pm
@layman,
Sorry but I do know better far better as does anyone who is aware of the history of the US and it constitution..
layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:25 pm
@BillRM,
From the ACLU, 1999:

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Washington, DC — The Supreme Court today ruled that immigrants have no right to object to being targeted for deportation based on their association with a political group. In an astounding decision that reached an issue neither party had even briefed, the Court effectively denied to all immigrants in this country the same First Amendment rights that U.S. citizens enjoy.

David Cole, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center and attorney with the Center for constitutional Rights, who argued the case for the immigrants, said, “We are not only disappointed; we were blindsided. The Court has denied to all immigrants in this country the right to engage in the same political activities that citizens have an unquestioned First Amendment right to engage in.


https://www.aclusocal.org/supreme-court-rules-aliens-have-no-first-amendment-defense-against-selective-deportation-for-political-ties/

Read it and weep alla yawl aliens, yas.
layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:28 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry but I do know better far better as does anyone who is aware of the history of the US and it constitution
.

Heh
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layman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:41 pm
@layman,
More from that case:

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The Supreme Court ruled that a 1996 immigration statute barred the immigrants from seeking federal court review at any time of their selective prosecution claims, and then went on to rule that this raised no constitutional problems because aliens have no First Amendment right to object to being singled out for deportation based on their political associations.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:42 pm
This is really sad...agents from the state are doing raids in Molenbeek the place where apparently the cell that did Paris was based....and they feel the need to wear masks! If Europe is this afraid of Daesh we have more serious problems than I thought.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34835046
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Brice De Ruyver, who spent eight years as security adviser to then-Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, said Molenbeek suffers from a cocktail of problems. “Youths are poorly educated, attracted by petty crime, have run-ins with police, and then there is a vicious circle, which leads to recruitment by radical groups,” he said, adding that the problems are now so serious, that it is hard to find police willing to bother tackling them.

“We don’t officially have no-go zones in Brussels, but in reality, there are, and they are in Molenbeek.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-attacks-visiting-molenbeek-the-police-no-go-zone-that-was-home-to-two-of-the-gunmen-a6735551.html


The breakdown of Europe continues.....
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Wearing masks are done for a lot of reasons such as not allowing criminals and terrorists to know who is an agent of the state to allow future undercover operations by them for example not due to fear.

It is almost standard operation procedure in police drug raids in the US.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:58 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Wearing masks are done for a lot of reasons such as not allowing criminals and terrorists to know who is an agent of the state to allow future undercover operations by them for example not due to fear.

It is almost standard operation procedure in police drug raids in the US.

And in america there have been many attempts to criminalize the citizens wearing masks during demonstrations.
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