Quote:You attribute a "want of destruction" where none exists. People who advocate equal rights for all individuals are not advocating the destruction of anything you have. You erroneously believe that a person's sexual orientation is a choice. You're wrong. Gay people are not heterosexual people in disguise who simply choose to engage in "deviant behavior." Homosexuality is not a choice. They cannot choose to be homosexual any more than a person can choose the color of his skin.
Do you have any proof that it isn't a choice? There are no creditable studies that show homosexuality is genetic. If this could be proven then I wouldn't have an issue with changing my mind. But it hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. What has been proven is that most people that are gay have had some sort of trauma in their lives that makes them have some sort of attachment to the same sex. Now I know there are going to be cases where this isn't true, because there are always exceptions. There is no real count on how many gays there are in the US because some studies have said 1.5% to as much as 10%. So lets choose a middle ground and say 5-6% of the US population is gay. I don't advocate putting gays in prison or the beating of gays. I have at least 2 family members on my wife's side that are lesbians and I love them very much but I don't agree with their lifestyles. It is more of a live and let live.
Quote:Just because you cannot force your beliefs and views on others, that doesn't mean other people are trying destroy anything you have. The existence and strength of your family does not falter or depend on the issue of gay marriage.
I'm not the one trying to force anything down people's throats. It is the other way around. The gay agenda is trying to force things down peoples throats with an in your face style. There are movements in the public school system to teach about the homosexual life style. Parents aren't asked if they approve of the teaching it is done. This has been done in several states. I don't remember where it was but there was some sort of sex ed conference done where children from the school were invited. The parents were told it was going to be your run of the mill sex ed class. It turns out that some of the parents attended this conference and they were teaching more then just sex ed. There were classes on "fisting" there were classes on homosexual sex positions. Are these the types of things children need to learn in school? I would say not. I'm happy some parents attended this because if they didn't then they wouldn't know what was being taught in schools. I know I don't want my children learning any type of sexual position regardless of it is for straight people or gay people. That isn't what school is about.
Quote:Again, you attribute a "want of destruction" and "want of murder" where none exists. People who advocate freedom for all individuals are not advocating the destruction of any of your freedoms or beliefs. Maybe you think abortion is wrong. You are free to believe what you want. However, you can't be so naive as to believe that all people ought to hold your views. You want to force your views on others, interfere in their privacy, and restrict their freedom to make their own decisions concerning their personal lives.
I don't' want to force anything. I want people to understand that this is where people are trying to force our nation. We used to be a nation of morals but now we are a nation of "if it feels good then lets do it". TO make a moral judgment in this country is to bring down the wrath of many on your head. Look at some of the responses I have received in this thread since I posted my own opinion. Most of what I have done is make a moral judgment, and people don't like that pointed out.
Quote:Parents can guide and influence their children, but children inevitably have minds of their own. Parents do not own their children. Children are not property. You can't beat them or abuse them or force them to live their lives exactly as you mapped it out. But, if you are successful in foisting your abortion views and opinions into your children's minds--maybe they won't feel it necessary to go behind your back when faced with an unwanted pregnancy.
A child of 13 doesn't have a mind of their own yet. They don't' even have the right to do a damn thing let alone make a decision that could effect them the rest of their lives. Look at the things that are on T.V. today, how is a parent who is away working supposed to compete with the level of sexuality on T.V.? When it comes to sex ed in schools the parents don't really know what is being taught in school nowadays and sometimes the teachers don't tell the parents anything except little Johnny needs to be on meds because the teacher can't control him.
You say parents don't own their children, but if something goes wrong and they get in trouble who is to blame, who is held responsible? You got it the parents! Look at what happened here in CO with the Columbine school shooting. The parents were held accountable because the children they don't own, children with their own minds went to school and decided to kill their classmates. Are you going to tell me that these parents were responsible?
On the issue of abortion. In school and everywhere else children are taught that there is nothing wrong with abortion and that it is ok. So when Jill gets pregnant and doesn't want to tell her parents she can go to the school nurse and request to get an abortion. The school will set it up and even take the child to the clinic to have said abortion. If you think I'm lying then check the Penn state law on the issue. They can do this all without having to tell the parents of Jill. On the other hand she still have to have permission to take an aspirin at school.
Quote:"Let freedom ring." Those who oppose individual rights; those who are opposed to freedom; those who want to govern the private lives of others based upon their own narrow beliefs and viewpoints (making no allowance for other people's beliefs and viewpoints) are the ones who endanger America.
You speak of individual rights, but you always forget to mention personal responsibility. I don't have an issue with personal freedom but I do have an issue with people wanting to change things to fit their own personal agenda and then having our children be the test subjects for something they don't have the guts to tell the parents about!
