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Teresa H. Kerry tells reporter to "shove it."

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:18 am
SueZCue
Sure you could the only problem is to get someone interested enough to listen.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:18 am
I think her comment was more appripriate than Cheney's comment. After all Leahy merely walked up to him and said hello. How is that "having it coming?"
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:20 am
Barbra Bush (Smith College if I remember right) used to do this and it never got in the papers.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:24 am
Colin McNickle (for the fact-challenged, that's the EDITOR who was told to "shove it") calls democrats, dimmycrats, in his editorials. He also says we should have "nuked Afghanistan." Why should Teresa Kerry be nice to him?
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:24 am
I have many times used the exact words that Cheney did and it was never reported by the media. I demand equal time.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:27 am
Now, according to this video, the guy took Mrs. Kerry's 'Un-American traits' remark and re-phrased it to 'Un-American activities.'

I woulda told him to go Cheney himself with a broken beer bottle, but that's just me. Cool
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:21 am
revel wrote:
I think her comment was more appripriate than Cheney's comment. After all Leahy merely walked up to him and said hello. How is that "having it coming?"

No, there is more to it than that. The history is:

1. Recently Leahy had called for an investigation after an e-mail surfaced suggesting the vice president's office was somehow involved in awarding a lucrative contract for work in Iraq.

2. As Cheney chatted with Republican senators. Leahy approached the vice president and asked if Cheney wasn't talking to Democrats.

3. The vice president then confronted Leahy about his criticism concerning alleged improprieties in Iraq military contracts awarded to Halliburton Co. Cheney, who as vice president is president of the Senate, is a former CEO of Halliburton.

4. Leahy responded by criticizing the White House for standing by allies who had accused Democrats of being anti-Catholic last year in opposing one of President Bush's judicial nominees.

5. Cheney then responded, "F--- off" or "F--- you," the aide said.

Not to mention the fact that Cheney has to contend with being accused daily of everything except being in league with the devil.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:25 am
But he is in league with the devil.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:50 am
Brandon, lemme get this right: Leahy asked for an investigation about a possible corruption-related issue that involved Cheney, and thus he "had it coming" to be f***-you'd? Isn't it a Senator's job to do such things, investigating possible improprieties and such?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 12:05 pm
nimh wrote:
Brandon, lemme get this right: Leahy asked for an investigation about a possible corruption-related issue that involved Cheney, and thus he "had it coming" to be f***-you'd? Isn't it a Senator's job to do such things, investigating possible improprieties and such?

My previous post was disputing the statement that the whole story consisted of Leahy coming up to Cheney and greeting him and being told to "F... Off." I disputed that statement because it's false. That was not the whole story.

I also said somewhere in this thread that although Cheney should have thought twice before his outburst, Leahy probably deserved it. I would talk to you about the difference between investigating improprieties vs trying to manufacture them, about what it must be like for Cheney to have people incessantly trying to pin things on him and sling dirt at him hoping that some of it will stick, but that would result in a long chain of ridiculous posts between us for which I simply do not have the time or the inclination.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 12:28 pm
Nah, no sweat, I've given up on "long chains of ridiculous posts", whats the point <shrugs>

Cant remember that there ever was any sequence of ridiculous posts in any of our interactions, anyway, but if thats how you took 'em, well ... <shrugs> ... again, what would the point of discussing stuff be, then.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:16 pm
nimh wrote:
Nah, no sweat, I've given up on "long chains of ridiculous posts", whats the point <shrugs>

Cant remember that there ever was any sequence of ridiculous posts in any of our interactions, anyway, but if thats how you took 'em, well ... <shrugs> ... again, what would the point of discussing stuff be, then.

I can't remember whether this happens with you, specifically, either, but it happens a lot.
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Gala
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:47 pm
why would a woman who speaks her mind scare you? she tod the reporter, who happend to work for a right-wing newspaper, to "shove it", because he repeatedly took her statement about a situation she described as "un-american" out of context.

is it because you were taught to be "sugar and spice and everything nice" and she shatters this belief system? face it, women have a right to get angry, especially when they are pushed to their limit.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:56 pm
Gala wrote:
why would a woman who speaks her mind scare you? she tod the reporter, who happend to work for a right-wing newspaper, to "shove it", because he repeatedly took her statement about a situation she described as "un-american" out of context.

is it because you were taught to be "sugar and spice and everything nice" and she shatters this belief system? face it, women have a right to get angry, especially when they are pushed to their limit.


I was listening to the radio today and the whole exchange was in her own words. She had said that the dirty rhetoric was wrong and very un-American. This reported asked her if she had said this and she said that she hadn't. Well I heard it in her own words, so she did in fact say it. When she refused to answer the question and said she didn't even say it then she was wrong. She was mad that she was called on it so she came back and told him to shove it.

I don't care that she said it or even care what she told the reporter. What concerns me is the fact that there is a local liberal talk show host who just last week was criticizing one of the Bush twins of sticking her tongue out at cameras. She also went on to talk about how she dresses like a slut and is trampy. Today she was talking like this thing with Ms. Kerry was no big deal and that it was being blown out of proportion. It is a difference in things like that that make me laugh.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:56 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
nimh wrote:
Brandon, lemme get this right: Leahy asked for an investigation about a possible corruption-related issue that involved Cheney, and thus he "had it coming" to be f***-you'd? Isn't it a Senator's job to do such things, investigating possible improprieties and such?

My previous post was disputing the statement that the whole story consisted of Leahy coming up to Cheney and greeting him and being told to "F... Off." I disputed that statement because it's false. That was not the whole story.

I also said somewhere in this thread that although Cheney should have thought twice before his outburst, Leahy probably deserved it. I would talk to you about the difference between investigating improprieties vs trying to manufacture them, about what it must be like for Cheney to have people incessantly trying to pin things on him and sling dirt at him hoping that some of it will stick, but that would result in a long chain of ridiculous posts between us for which I simply do not have the time or the inclination.


I should know better than to say something without knowing exactly what was said.

So because Cheney has been harrassed and calls for investigation over this and that, then it is understandable when he uses foul language to another senator on the floor of the United States Senate? Well, then I guess Clinton can go wild against the whole republican party.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 02:03 pm
revel wrote:

I should know better than to say something without knowing exactly what was said.

So because Cheney has been harrassed and calls for investigation over this and that, then it is understandable when he uses foul language to another senator on the floor of the United States Senate? Well, then I guess Clinton can go wild against the whole republican party.


You said something that was incorrect:

revel wrote:
After all Leahy merely walked up to him and said hello.


There was more to what happened. I corrected you.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 02:03 pm
This entire discussion is much ado about nothing.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 02:05 pm
au1929 wrote:
This entire discussion is much ado about nothing.

Yes it is, as are discussions of Jenna Bush sticking her tongue out at reporters or Cheney telling Leahy to "F... off."
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doglover
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:24 pm
Gala wrote:
why would a woman who speaks her mind scare you? she tod the reporter, who happend to work for a right-wing newspaper, to "shove it", because he repeatedly took her statement about a situation she described as "un-american" out of context.

is it because you were taught to be "sugar and spice and everything nice" and she shatters this belief system? face it, women have a right to get angry, especially when they are pushed to their limit.


Many Americans, especially men and women of an older generation, are 'put off' by a woman who, God forbid, speaks her mind. They still live in the days when, like children, women were to be seen and not heard. Rolling Eyes

It will be a refreshing change to have a first lady who is not a Stepford Wife and only spouts blurbs that are pre-approved by her husband and his handlers.

I'm proud of Teresa for telling that reporter to shove it. If she pissed some people off, then so be it. Although, they better get used to it because come Jan 2005 they're gonna be seeing a whole lot more of Teresa. Cool
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:12 pm
doglover wrote:
Gala wrote:
why would a woman who speaks her mind scare you? she tod the reporter, who happend to work for a right-wing newspaper, to "shove it", because he repeatedly took her statement about a situation she described as "un-american" out of context.

is it because you were taught to be "sugar and spice and everything nice" and she shatters this belief system? face it, women have a right to get angry, especially when they are pushed to their limit.


Many Americans, especially men and women of an older generation, are 'put off' by a woman who, God forbid, speaks her mind. They still live in the days when, like children, women were to be seen and not heard. Rolling Eyes

It will be a refreshing change to have a first lady who is not a Stepford Wife and only spouts blurbs that are pre-approved by her husband and his handlers.

I'm proud of Teresa for telling that reporter to shove it. If she pissed some people off, then so be it. Although, they better get used to it because come Jan 2005 they're gonna be seeing a whole lot more of Teresa. Cool


I guess you have forgotten about a certain woman named Hillary Clinton. She wasn't excatly timid by any means of the word.
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