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Democratic Party Debates - Election 2016

 
 
engineer
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2015 07:10 am
@snood,
I'm disappointed that Clinton flopped on the TPP. I would have loved to see a spirited debate about free trade and I think Clinton could have done a decent job holding down the pro position while Sanders took the con.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 04:08 pm
Six things to watch for in the Las Vegas Democratic debate

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1. Steam from the Hillary grilling

If the CNN debate moderators treat this as their chance to grill Clinton on live TV instead of carrying out an actual debate where other candidates are allotted plenty of time to make their case, “Democrats will likely be frustrated,” said Pat Rynard, a former Democratic campaign staffer from Iowa.

2. The Biden shadow

Even if he’s not on the stage, “Joe is a real part of the debate,” said Democrat Patty Judge, a former Iowa lieutenant governor.

“Sadly,” added Rynard, “in terms of the media narrative, nothing in the debate may matter if Biden announces his intentions the next day and wipes out all the coverage. Hopefully that doesn’t happen, but it’s near when Biden has to make a decision for ballot purposes.”

3. Sanders’ fidelity to fixed talking points

The liberal messenger could miss an opportunity if he expounds only a dry, policy-heavy message, Democrats said.

“He really refuses to deviate much from his economic inequality shtick on the campaign trail — which, to be fair, is a very powerful message that has gotten him far,” said Rynard, who writes about presidential politics on the website Iowa Starting Line. “(But) debates tend to favor interaction and candidates quick on their toes who can give punchy responses.”

4. Two debates in one

One debate will likely be a policy contest between Clinton and Sanders, both of whom have declined to stray into personal attacks, observers said.

“She will continue to move herself to the left in order to appeal to undecideds and to those who are leaning to Sanders but not firmly in his camp,” Judge said of Clinton. “She will also try to continue to distance herself from the Obama administration to give herself room to take on Biden if he gets into the race.”

The second debate could feature hard swings from the low-polling contenders, especially O’Malley, who has gotten increasingly personal in drawing contrasts with Clinton.

Watch for gun control, trade, banks and foreign policy to take center stage, said Michael Cheney, a professor of communication and economics at the University of Illinois at Springfield.

5. O’Malley’s moment?

Many Democrats worry that Sanders’ “socialist” label and Clinton’s struggles with her email controversy would badly hinder them in the general election, Rynard said.

O’Malley has run a serious campaign and impressed Democrats who go see him. But he barely attracts national media coverage, and many voters haven’t noticed him yet.

Cutter said: “This is the last best chance for Martin O’Malley.”

O’Malley needs to pull votes from Sanders, she said. “If he doesn’t distinguish himself as the person more likely to achieve results for a progressive agenda, rather than just a protest,” Cutter said, “then he’s out.”

6. The invisible Democrats

It’s now or never for Webb and Chafee, neither of whom do any real campaigning, Rynard said.

“At this point, they’re just taking up space,” he said.

Democrats said they’re hesitant to take either candidate seriously when even low-polling GOP candidates such as Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham throw energy into reaching out to early state voters.

But debates are fertile ground for earning a bump in the polls, strategists noted.

“The best debaters,” Sefl said, “are those who don’t look like they rehearsed their one-liners thousands of times, and who know how to demonstrate command of the issues without being the annoying kid from class who always raised their hand to every question.”

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 08:53 pm
http://s3.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Bully-Putin-600-LI.jpg

Sure glad that was posted about watching the debates, now I know what the media wants me to think. I guess this liberal blog( I mean USA Today)takes no chances.

The cartoon comes from here.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/10/branco-cartoon-stopbullying-gov/
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 12 Oct, 2015 09:19 pm
@coldjoint,
Even most liberals lost the stomach to try to defend The professor a couple of years back. On Global affair what has he done well?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 02:30 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Even most liberals lost the stomach to try to defend The professor a couple of years back. On Global affair what has he done well?


Yeah...I guess he hasn't started any massive, open-ended, mindless wars which waste huge amounts of treasure and cost lives.

I can see that being a disappointment to folk like you.

Ahhh, for the days of Dick Cheney.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:25 am
Questions that need to be asked but won't be:

1) How will you get anything done with an obstructionist Congress (and please answer without spouting platitudes about it being "time to come together and work across the aisles")?

2)Ninety percent of American workers haven't had a raise in real wages since 1979. What specific steps would you take to change that?

3)The Affordable Care Act was called a "starter home" by Tom Harkin, one of its architects. What specific improvements would you make?

4) The truth is you would have to actually reduce the number of guns in circulation in order to bring down incidences of gun violence. Are you willing to actually propose legislation that does THAT?

5)Can you explain to the American people that if threats are properly assessed, gun violence and deaths from white supremacists outnumber the violence and threats from foreign terrorism groups?

I'm not holding my breath, but these are some that I'd like discussed.


(they were't original ideas)
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/13/13_vital_questions_cnn_should_but_wont_ask_at_tonights_democratic_debate/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:29 am
@snood,

Quote:
(they were't original ideas)


That goes without saying.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:43 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:


Quote:
(they were't original ideas)


That goes without saying.

That's kinda personal there cold, ole buddy. I mean, you don't even know me - why so nasty?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:45 am
@snood,
All I want to see is as much substance as possible.

Any substance at all...would be a welcome relief from the "her face would stop a clock" and "just look at the way he combs his hair" nonsense that passed for political debate for the Clown Car candidates.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 10:07 am
@snood,
Quote:
That's kinda personal there cold, ole buddy. I mean, you don't even know me - why so nasty?


You have a short memory. Look at your first reply to my posts.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 10:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

Yeah...I guess he hasn't started any massive, open-ended, mindless wars which waste huge amounts of treasure and cost lives.


Why should he? He has enabled Islam to take care of that.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 10:49 am
@snood,
Robert Reich's take on tonight

Quote:
Ten things that would surprise me at tonight’s Democratic debate:

1. As they walk on stage, Hillary Clinton magnanimously offers Bernie Sanders the podium in the center, and he accepts.

2. Martin O’Malley says something so powerful that he rockets upward in the polls.

3. Hillary Clinton says something unrehearsed and impromptu.

4. Bernie Sanders makes a funny joke.

5. Bernie viciously attacks Hillary over why she won't resurrect Glass-Steagall, bust up the big banks, raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, or seek Medicare for all -- and she breaks down in tears and says he's right.

6. Someone compliments Donald Trump's intelligence and tolerance.

7. Jim Webb is so eloquent and in such total command of the facts that the CNN moderator says "wow, you should run for president!"

8. Five minutes after the debate ends, anyone recalls that Lincoln Chaffee participated.

9. Anyone emerges a clear winner.

10.The CNN debate moderator concludes by saying all these Democrats are sane relative to the Republican hopefuls.


What would surprise you?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 08:55 pm
how's the debate going?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:09 pm
@ehBeth,
all of your questions are answered here:

http://able2know.org/topic/297161-1#post-6047320
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:09 pm
@ehBeth,
Bernie won.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:11 pm
It made me proud to be a Democrat. It was a substantive debate with tough questions for everyone and they all conducted themselves like grownups. Sanders, Clinton and O'Malley all shined, I thought.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:11 pm
@McGentrix,
Webb #1
Sanders #2
Hillary #3
O'malley #4
Chafee #5
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 13 Oct, 2015 09:24 pm
@snood,
Quote:
It made me proud to be a Democrat.


The bar isn't too high for that.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2015 05:25 am
Bernie did good when he took up for Hillary, Hillary did good with her one word answer of "no." All of them did good on sticking to the issues and answering the questions without needless mudslinging.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2015 08:47 am
@Frank Apisa,
And what you got was a Bull*(&^ love fest. 4 people on stage saying if you vote for me, college education will be free, medical coverage will be free, you can stay home and get paid for free, you will get paid more to do less ..... how inspiring !!!! Of course they did not explain HOW all this free stuff will be given to us, but why do I care....it's free !!!!! VOTE FOR ME !!!!
 

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