Democratic Party Debates - Election 2016

@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

The snap polls are consistent with Sanders getting between 70-85% of the votes for winning the debate

Sanders
Clinton
Webb
O'Malley
Chafee

The sanders win is probably overstated because I am guessing that Hillary does better with old folks than Sanders, though I dont know this.

Not sure how they were getting at "win"...but if it had to do with who looked electable...and who looked like a very long shot...

...I'd say Sanders and Chafee tied for dead last.

I love Sanders and his ideas...but he has about as much chance of being elected president as he has of being elected next year's Miss America.

Chafee is weird in a big way.

Hillary definitely looked like the most likely to be elected...

...and one cannot under state the need for being elected!

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@Frank Apisa,

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Hillary definitely looked like the most likely to be elected...

Which at this point is on par with saying that your favorite football team is going to win the superbowl because you like the roster and they looked good in preseason.

The moneymen picked Hillary so of course their agents the corporate media is going to want to claim that she won, but that does not make it so. And I have seen no evidence that Hillary has stopped the erosion of her popularity, which as been going on for many months.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Hillary definitely looked like the most likely to be elected...

President of cell block 11.

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@Frank Apisa,

I almost mirror your line up. I thought Chaffee and Webb were in over their heads. O'Malley was the governor of my State for 8 years and I don't think he has much home state support. I do enjoy Bernie, I know some people think he's not electable but I don't share that opinion. Hillary was terrific last night, and I know I may be in the minority regarding her chances but she was well prepared. O'Malley was a let down, and even though I voted for him when he was running for Governor I don't see him as a a fit for the Oval Office. The biggest stunner for me was when Chafee waffled on his first vote in Congress by saying his father had just died and he wasn't well informed on the issue. I know he said it twice, possibly a third time, it's was an incredibly bad answer.

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@Frank Apisa,

I'm sure you meant one can't overstate that importance, not understate.

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@snood,

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I'm sure you meant one can't overstate that importance, not understate.

You speak nothing-ese?

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At Least We’ve Cleared Up Any Doubt About Democrats Being Socialists

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Some of us have been saying for years that the current generation of Democrats are socialists and for the most part we’ve been scoffed at. So I guess we should thank the Democrats in last night’s debate for clearing up any doubt about it. With the exception of Jim Webb, all of the candidates were trying to out-socialist each other.

Sure, this batch of candidates sounded like a bunch of loons. They contended socialism is mostly about standing up to the richest one percent and promoting entrepreneurs and small business; climate change is the biggest national security threat facing the nation; college educations should be free for everyone; all lives don’t matter, black lives do; Obama is simultaneously an enormously successful president in managing the economy and the middle class is collapsing and there’s a need for a “New New Deal” which is in fact an Old Old Idea, considering how FDR called for a Second New Deal in 1935. The audience in Nevada applauded higher taxes, believes that Hillary Clinton doesn’t need to answer any more questions, supports the complete shutdown of the NSA domestic surveillance program, and that Obamacare benefits should be extended to illegal immigrants. There are kindergarten classes with more realistic assessments of cost-benefit tradeoffs than the crowd watching this debate at the Wynn Las Vegas. (Read More)

http://lonelyconservative.com/2015/10/at-least-weve-cleared-up-any-doubt-about-democrats-being-socialists/

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

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I'm sure you meant one can't overstate that importance, not understate.

You speak nothing-ese?

How pitiful are you and your brokedick cronies to malinger in these threads, just to tear down, insult and cast shade. You don't think enough of your own candidates or representatives of your own lost-ass views to start your own threads to vaunt their assets and positives. Even you dimwits can figure out that they aren't anything to be proud of. All you have it in your koolaid-pumping hearts to do is hang around here, taking shots at the Democrats. I mean, it is understandable, after all... you feckless wonders don't really have anything - any candidate - any issues - to brag about. So you can't find anything better to do but go to these threads where people actually have candidates, issues, and substance and sling **** all day.
It is understandable, but it is a damn wretched thing. If you had a shred of character or a hint of conscience you'd be ashamed of your damned selves.

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@snood,

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How pitiful are you and your brokedick cronies to malinger in these threads, just to tear down, insult and cast shade

Names?

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@snood,

snood wrote:

I'm sure you meant one can't overstate that importance, not understate.

Yeah, I did, Snood.

Thanks for picking that up.

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@Frank Apisa,

Nada. You are usually a fairly precise wordsmith so that stood out.

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Does it strike anyone else as remarkable that no one from the GOP side can muster even ONE thread to tout their viewpoints, their candidates? I mean damn, they've got an army of people running, can't they find anyone with enough good things to say about them that it would sustain a discussion, or even launch one?

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@snood,

Explain why it matters if it was a D, R or I that starts a thread on the candidates. I post in Edgar's Trump thread because I did not see the need to reinvent the wheel.
http://able2know.org/topic/164543-1

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Replies: 957
Views: 18,788

There are several other Trump threads, to include one started by Finn, who last I heard trends R. This looks to me like yet another example of Snood not knowing what Snood thinks he knows.

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@snood,

I'm not surprised. At least not our resident wizards, it's too bad really. There are many sensible Republicans who've been marginalized by the crazies. It's sad that an honest exchange of viewpoints is no longer possible. The dim wits rely on tired hackneyed insults to characterize everyone they suspect is not as pure an ideologue as they imagine themselves to be.

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I just posted this comment in another forum where I participate. Thought it was appropriate for this thread also.

I do not think there is a chance in the world of Bernie becoming president...and I suspect the Dems will never give him the opportunity to run by allowing him the nomination.

We who advocate for a progressive agenda...owe him, though. We owe him big time!

He has raised the issues some of us want raised in a way that has not been seen in recent times.

He will not get the nod, but I acknowledge a debt to him for speaking out so forcefully in an area where so many cower.

And there will come a day where the issues he is championing today...will become the moral attitude and law of this land.

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In 2008, Hillary supporters tried to paint Obama as unelectable. Obama won two terms in the White House.

As a Bernie supporter, I think I am happy about how emphatically Snood and Frank keep repeatedly stating that Bernie is unelectable.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

I'm not surprised. At least not our resident wizards, it's too bad really. There are many sensible Republicans who've been marginalized by the crazies. It's sad that an honest exchange of viewpoints is no longer possible. The dim wits rely on tired hackneyed insults to characterize everyone they suspect is not as pure an ideologue as they imagine themselves to be.

The French Royals had much the same opinion of the little people before the revolution.

Then they got taught.

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@Frank Apisa,

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And there will come a day where the issues he is championing today...will become the moral attitude and law of this land.

You lost it at moral. Progressives have no morals, or they change daily with the victims they create. Nice asskissery before that, though.

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@Frank Apisa,

I was going to express similar comments - well, similar in that they are not uncomplimentary of Bernie. I gained serious respect for Bernie in that first debate. I thought his denouncing of those "damn email" hearings was a classy, classy move. It showed me some character - someone who is really interested in working toward helping the situation, not just self-aggrandizement. And though I don't think it would be wise for us to have Bernie on the Dem ticket, I think he has been by far a net plus to have on our side, and I hope his followers find reasons to support another Dem if Bernie falls short..

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

In 2008, Hillary supporters tried to paint Obama as unelectable. Obama won two terms in the White House.

As a Bernie supporter, I think I am happy about how emphatically Snood and Frank keep repeatedly stating that Bernie is unelectable.

Find ONE post where I said that. Or apologize for lying about my statements again.

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