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Democratic Party Debates - Election 2016

 
 
revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2015 11:58 am
@snood,
Oh well, snood, I guess you got your questioned answered, they said "something." If it were me, I would have just not answered if that was the best I could do.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2015 01:18 pm
@revelette2,
I know, right? That's funny as hell. The only thing is, I think that might have been the best he could do - considering what he had to work with.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2015 03:48 pm
Quote:
If you are able, capable, want to compete and conquer; if you are creative and want to exercise your freedom; if you are an intelligent, intellectual person who wants to think for himself or herself – socialism is not for you.


What does that say about people that want it?
Read more at http://politichicks.com/2015/10/what-is-socialism-really-about/
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2015 03:29 pm
First off, these debates have really highlighted for me the substantive, qualitative difference in the candidates from the respective two parties, and in the foci and visions of the respective partes for this country.

I would be ashamed to call ANY of the unruly assortment of charlatans, carnival barkers and clowns on the Republican side my president. The standard measurement of competence on their side seems to be the level of brio with which they deliver their lies.

Their voters are giving serious consideration to giving the reins of presidential power to either a ridiculous narcissistic real estate huckster or an idiot savant religious buffoon; neither of them knowing democratic government from shinola.
On the other hand, I would be proud to support any one of the three candidates on the Democratic side, even freely admitting that my opinion of them has risen greatly in comparison to the dangerous fools on the other side trying to out-inflame and out-fear monger one another.
Watching the Dem debate last night I got a sharper idea of who these people are. I think it was the best debate yet, this election.

I am impressed with the consistency and clarity of Bernie's views. I am impreseed with the nuanced understanding of the roiling issues of foreign policy that Hillary obviously has. And last night I found myself even impressed by the presence and presentation of Governor O'Malley.

Whatever happens, I'm glad that, for anyone honestly wanting to compare the merits of the two main political parties (although I know that at this point no one is objective) the debates have really highlighted the difference between them.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2015 05:39 pm
@snood,
I think those were the best moderators I've ever seen. The withering, pointed redirections were from heaven.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2015 05:43 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I think those were the best moderators I've ever seen. The withering, pointed redirections were from heaven.


When the R's pointed out that the moderators have been easier on the D's than the R's they did incite some shame it seems. Over the last few years journalists have been somewhat forced to understand that they are largely held in disrepute by the people, claims of bias and incompetence do tend to get their attention these days. Not enough, but it is a start.

I expect to see Corporate Media at least attempting to do a better job between now and election day. The rise of Carson/Sanders/Trump has gotten their attention, as it has gotten all of the elites attention. Things have to change, the little people are fed up, and they have the vote.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:53 am
The Bern parlays his debut to the country into big gains. Nice breakdown of demographics and historical connections to last election at this point.

Bern's gonna take it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2015-11-13/it-s-not-over-for-bernie-sanders-in-iowa-ann-selzer
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 04:55 am
@Lash,
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Bern's gonna take it.


It was stunning how badly Hillary did at the debate. And Bernie did yet again the best work of his life.

WTF, this was supposed to be simple!
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 05:02 am
@hawkeye10,
She was really routed. Bill is now making short sentences to try to defend her.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-15/bill-clinton-defends-wife-s-wall-street-ties

O'Malley is resurrected from the ash heap, but it's my perception that he has serious problems with black voters - though I'm not sure he deserves it. I don't know his actions around the big stink in Baltimore.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 09:40 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

She was really routed. Bill is now making short sentences to try to defend her.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-15/bill-clinton-defends-wife-s-wall-street-ties

O'Malley is resurrected from the ash heap, but it's my perception that he has serious problems with black voters - though I'm not sure he deserves it. I don't know his actions around the big stink in Baltimore.


I really would've liked Bernie to press a little harder on her non-answer to accepting so much support from Wall Street. She needs to be held accountable to address that. Bernie might be served by being just a bit meaner.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2015 07:27 pm
@snood,
My chin hit the floor when he made the accusation. Then, she comes with that indignant bellow - putting him in the position of metaphorically throwing cow dung on 911 victims. Trying to come back from that is a VERY dicey proposition. We were saved by the nerve of the Twitter guy (who I've since friended!! haha) and the really tough-as-nails moderator, John Dickerson.

So, I guess I would have really liked for Bern to have stayed on that calmly, I really get how difficult that particular position was. Just proud he called her on her ****.

We really had a show.

It infuriates me that the head of the DNC, Hillary's former campaign manager, is carving out the most obscure times to televise debates. I can't believe she's getting away with it. HRC is cheating in so many ways I've lost count.
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