@snood,
snood wrote:
Hell, I know that anyone who at this point still thinks Obama hasn’t been treated any worse than any other president is not going to be persuaded otherwise, but here’s a sampling of some of the foulest stuff anyway.
1. Leader of a foreign nation whose views are in conflict with the president is invited to speak at a joint session of Congress. The president is not even informed of this as a courtesy until the visit is already pending. Netanyahu said, “My speech is not intended to show any disrespect to President Obama or the esteemed office that he holds.” Really?
2. The leader of a foreign country would undoubtedly never be greeted at plane landing by an American official with a wagging finger in his face while news cameras watched. Republican Governor Jan Brewer did just that in January 2012 to the sitting President of the US for all the world to see. She said she did it because Obama made her feel “A little threatened.” Puh-lease.
3. No President has ever been refused a request to address congress – except one. President Obama asked John Boehner for a date to address Congress about jobs and the economy in September 2011 and was refused.
4. The whole birther fiasco and varying degrees of refusal by GOP leaders to disavow it was the most virulent between 2009-2011, but still rears its ugly head sometimes. What other president has had his very legitimacy as a citizen questioned this way?
5. Even in an age of general incivility, it’s astounding that a member of congress would have the lack of control to call the President – while he was addressing congress and the nation on worldwide television– a liar. Imagine if say, Maxine Waters had done this to George Bush. I know, I can’t even imagine it, either. That kind of open contempt has been reserved for this one president.
6. The signs and videos circulated by the GOP and Tea Party are too vile to share in polite company, but they were breathtaking in their sheer numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWbmEUIQOCQ
7. Maybe one of the most offensive shows of disrespect for this president was by Former NYCity Mayor Rudy Giuliani in a widely-publicized interview for Politico. It wasn’t an exception, it was how GOP officials regularly spoke of President Obama.
“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani said, according to a story in Politico last month. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.” When Megyn Kelly of Fox News asked Giuliani whether he wanted to apologize, he said, “Not at all. I want to repeat it.” Giuliani would then tell the New York Times his remarks weren’t racist “since [Obama] was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools”
I agree with you about Obama. I disagree with you about Clinton.
Show me how Clinton is facing anything comparable to what Obama faced as a candidate in 2008. There is no birther controversy. There are no people marching with offensive signs. There are no rants equivalent to the "inadequate black male" rant from a Hillary supporter.
There is no equivalency here.
Hillary is having problems because she is a Clinton, not because she is a woman.
There is this vague "no one should criticize Hillary" theme coming from Hillary supporters (which is quite unreasonable for someone running for national office). But there are no examples of how the criticism Hillary Clinton is facing is any different than what John Kerry, John McCain or even Bill Clinton faced.
Snood, I would also like to hear you expand on the claim you quoted that what white women face in the way of prejudice or injustice is anywhere near what people of color face-- I suggest we compare any theme; incarceration rates, interactions with police, voting access, salaries, economic power, housing, access to finance... anything. I don't think the claim that gender discrimination is anywhere near racial discrimination has any merit. Do you?