Are We Ready For a Woman President? Really?

You made the mistake of speaking your mind politically in disagreement with the herd and they shunned you.

I haven't shunned edgarblythe, and never will.

Yes, that's exactly what happened.

I don't talk to edgar very much because he just copy/pastes a lot and then when you disagree with what he posts he either ignores it or says that I should take it up with the author.

He's mistaking whatever silence he's hearing as him being outcast instead of the truth which is that he's simply boring to converse with and honestly not worth any time or consideration.

That may change in the future, but for now, it's what it is (IMO)

Well I once argued with you, mostly because we see some things differently. Later on I realized we have many tastes in music and literature in common. That caused me to look twice, and I found much more to like and enjoy than dispute.

I got testy with him during the primaries, but, honestly, I don't think he thinks I am worth the time. In any event, I agree on most issues with him except I think half a loaf is better than no loaf and he feels we have settled for half a loaf too long. I respect him for it as an honest held view but it leaves us with nothing to discuss because I don't want to get testy with him again.

My take on the election at this point is, Hillary is in danger of letting it slip away. After she secured the nomination she seems to have taken shelter under the corporate umbrella and is trying to ride it out instead of getting out there in a way that suggests to the voters she knows how they feel and she will work for them as president. By sitting still she makes a broad target for the email, health and such issues, instead of taking command of the narrative. It doesn't build public confidence when a candidate seems to be in neutral. Trump may be perceived as a loose cannon, a racist - whatever - but he gives the impression of doing. There is a great swath of poor white workers in swing states that no
longer feel confidence in the Democratic party and you can't blame them, because nothing is done in their interests anymore.

Of course the debates may or may not help her.

Trump's "going to make America great again" won the contest. Trump's bigotry, thin skin, lack of knowledge on most subjects, have won the day when the contest is this close. The "Deplorable" has won.

I know and like edgarblythe. We have often over now long years agreed on stuff. I think I remember saying "see what edgarblythe says," as a quip about our level of agreement. I disagree with him on recent issues but I get his point of view completely.

Don't make assumptions.

EB has contributed widely here, whether or not he - or any of us - cut and paste to show a point..

If you don't cut and paste they ask for verification. What matter what order it comes?

A stupid lie.

I consider Edgar a good friend, and a fine man. I'm disappointed with those who are playing "dog pile on the rabbit". If I thought for one minute that he was actually being shunned, I'd be unable to muster up any enthusiasm to post here or even to read the posts.

Ditto for me!

What my perception of tRump is that he lies 80% of the time and instead of the media pointing this out they just parrot what ever lie he is telling at any particular moment.

I disagree with Edgar on this election but if someone thinks I am shunning him it is just the conservative jerks worthless opinion who is trying to divide friends on this site. One can disagree with most on this site without losing friends as long as you are not a conservative.

Trump's lies that are not challenged is very frustrating.

http://trumplies.com/

As should be very obvious I don't mind cut and paste, do it often. I just find the guy you quote so often to be too dismal and negative towards Hillary most of the time. She is far from a perfect candidate but I don't think she is as bad or is doing as badly or will do as badly as he makes out.

I agree with that Edgar. Trumps' recent rise in the polls is as much or more a refelection of Hillary's declining appeal as any real rise in his. I think the slowly gathering perception of the Clintonian thirst for power, position and money; the lies and deceptions they are willing to make to get them; and their all-to-evident condescension and contempt for those they patronize and promise to save; coupled with the shrill indignation Hillary assumes in so hypocritically criticizing the motives of her opponents are all starting to wear a bit thin.

It's a year filled with reversals and uncertainty and anything could still happen. However, I have a growing perception of a fairly widespread public thirst for something different from what we have experienced over the last eight years. That and the decline in trust for Clinton might well be decisive.

In order to see any change, we need better people seeking office. I don't see that happening any time soon.

I have no argument with that proposition.

Quote georgeob1:

Nah, that's not it. For the past year, since Trump first announced his candidacy in a room full of actors hired to applaud, it's been Hillary ahead, Trump almost catches up. Then Hillary pulls ahead again, Trump almost catches up again. Then Hillary goes well ahead, then Trump nearly catches up again.

Yet, oddly, your posts only reflect the times that Trump almost catches up, and never deal with the numerous times Hillary recovered and pulled out ahead once more. Since your posts seem to only deal with the times Trump surges back, and never with the times Hillary pulls ahead again, one might think, by reading only your posts, that Trump is ahead by 20 points by now.