Deadly shooting on Oregon college campus

@izzythepush,

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No, your pronouncements on the victims of child pornography and the perpetrators says all anyone needs to know about you.

God you are predictable when trap due to your complete lack of logic with no way out you then fall back to attacking my position on the degree of punishment call for having CP a position I happen to share with your own lawmakers and with the majority of US federal judges.

Also a subject that have zero to do with this thread.

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@parados,

Sorry but suicides is not homicides nor would it call for any kind of an insurance settlements.

Nor can you blame guns for being use as a means of suicides anymore then you can blame tall buildings.

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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths

Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010 and just over half of all suicides, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

But as gun homicides have declined sharply in recent years, suicides have become a greater share of all firearm deaths: the 61% share in 2010 was the highest on record. That year there were 19,392 suicides by firearm compared to 11,078 homicides by gun (35% of all firearm deaths). The rest were accidents, police shootings and unknown causes.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

Most insurance on a gun is currently to ensure the value against theft. No liability involved.

incorrect

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

suicides is not homicides nor would it call for any kind of an insurance settlements.

that varies by jurisdiction

i.e. there is first party auto insurance coverage for suicide resulting from carbon monoxide poisoning in some jurisdictions (and of course depending on specific sets of facts)

the same types of coverage would likely apply in suicides by gun in those jurisdictions - but would of course have to be tested in the courts

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@BillRM,

Let me repost your statement.....

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As I stated cars killed 30,000 or so every year far more deaths then gun cause even before subtracting suicides

Your statement is factually incorrect. Geez, just admit it and move on.

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@izzythepush,

Explain how carrying liability insurance is me paying my own way? I don't think you understand the concept of "paying your way".

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@parados,

Once more the suicide rate by guns is meaningless as far as the homicide rate happen to be and with all the guns and all the news reports of random mass murders by gun fire it does not change the fact that not only is the overall homicide rate but the homicide rate by firearms is going down not up.

You are in fact far less likely to be killed by firearms now then you was twenty years ago.

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@BillRM,

Tell rthathat to the 30000 people who die from guns every year. Declining numbers sure didn't help them.

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@parados,

God I know that a large percent of the posters here wish to cry that the sky is falling when it suit their purposes but once more in large large letters.

The US homicide rate and the homicide rate by firearms are at a near hundred years low, repeat at a near hundred years low.

Now let see how that great news is voted down as it does not meet their requirements needed to go after the rights to own firearms in the US.

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@MontereyJack,

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Tell rthathat to the 30000 people who die from guns every year. Declining numbers sure didn't help them.

Oh it did in fact aided those who wished to end their own lives by giving them a fast and fairly painless why of doing so. Over 19,000 in the year 2010 of the 30,000 total firearms deaths and a large percent of them over 65 years old.

Jumping off a building or in front of a train or using pills seems not a prefer means of ending your life with special note that most states do not as yet allowed physician aided suicides for the dying.

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@FBM,

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The "shall not be infringed" part is pretty unambiguous, innit?

Well maybe. But the actual legal meanings count more than the plain English meaning of the text.

We've been blessed by the fact that every time the anti-gun people try to limit what type of guns are available, they focus entirely on trying to ban harmless cosmetic features like a pistol grip on a rifle.

That makes it much easier to defeat them. Banning something for no good reason whatsoever tends to annoy people and firm up opposition. Plus if such a ban did ever pass, it is an easy argument in court that it is unconstitutional because there is no good reason to ban a harmless cosmetic feature.

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@oralloy,

It does amazed me that rifles that are the same in function, that one is a target for banning as it is an assault rifle that only should be found on the battlefield and the other is not as it does not have the looks of a military rifle.

This whole drive to ban firearms is being driven by a campaign of emotions and at the same time that few homicides are done with any kind of long rifle in any case.

Or that homicides rates by any kind of firearms or any other means is at a near 100 years low.

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Obama Admin Caught In MAJOR Lie About Guns

http://i0.wp.com/theminorityreportblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/12115729_10153572265830479_6002964254118405943_n.jpg?resize=398%2C452

http://theminorityreportblog.com/2015/10/09/obama-admin-caught-in-major-lie-about-guns/

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@coldjoint,

The decrease in the homicide rate for guns and in general is hardly a secret now my question is where did Obama lied about this fact?

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@BillRM,

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where did Obama lied about this fact?

That is his rhetoric. But the real reason is the liberal hold on social media. That is why anyone here with a different opinion is attacked.

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It’s not even true that mass shootings are up. What has changed has little to do with firearms: Namely, that social media has become more powerful and round-the-clock news has become more prevalent.

Every liberal pantywaist is lying their ass off.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Tell rthathat to the 30000 people who die from guns every year. Declining numbers sure didn't help them.

Most of that number is suicides, guns very much helped them.

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@coldjoint,

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It’s not even true that mass shootings are up. What has changed has little to do with firearms: Namely, that social media has become more powerful and round-the-clock news has become more prevalent.

The last time I checked the 1920s still hold the records for mass murders but you are right listening to the news you would never guess that fact.

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@coldjoint,

What I also find amusing is that the anti-firearms people votes down postings of facts not just opinions.

It is almost like they hate firearms and the right of own them so badly that they also hate the fact repeat the fact that the homicide rate overall and also by firearms is at a near hundred years low.

How dare we confused and challenge them with facts that we are far far from having some overwhelming crime wave of gun murders in this nation that the 24/7 news media is pushing

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In today's Capital newspaper (local paper for Annapolis and the surrounding county) the front page story is about a 21 year old County resident recently shot on an Arizona college campus. Arizona is an open carry state including school campuses. This young man was killed and four others wounded by a Fraternity member when an argument got out of hand. Apparently the other four were not fast enough on the draw, because we all know, because the NRA tells us, the answer to gun violence is more guns in the hands of the 'good guys'. Whoops, it couldn't possibly have been because the other student's temper flared or booze was involved. Before students carried weapons on campus, this could have been a fistfight between a bunch of hotheads. That ship has sailed, students are now able to inflict irrevocable damage for minor slights, and the shooter is facing murder charges. Two lives ended because of an argument between frat boys.

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@BillRM,

All of that doesn't matter.

Let me repost your statement.....

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As I stated cars killed 30,000 or so every year far more deaths then gun cause even before subtracting suicides

Your statement is factually incorrect. Do facts not matter to you in the debate? You keep running away from your statement. Did you make the statement or not?

You don't get to subtract suicides in a statement where you clearly said you hadn't subtracted suicides.

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