Black Lives Matter

Seriously? This is Finn. Even s/he said:

Finn's not above barking over shadows,is he?

Yes. Bill believes ALL cops are good and ALL "suspects" shot in their arrests are guilty and that all suspects who die in detention asked for it one way or another. He's said that explicitly many, many times.

Wrong my position is that in a conflict between a citizen,with special note of a citizen with a long criminal record and a police officer I tend to give more credit to the police officer account then the citizen/criminal account unless there is solid reasons to question it come to light.

Kind of the reverse of the Black lives Matter where anytime a hoodlum and a officer come into conflict we have protests and threats of violence before any investigation had occur.

Proven false stores such as a man having his hands up can keep circulating long after hard evidences proven it incorrect.

With a million or so officers in the US there are, indeed some bad officers since we recruit them from the human race.

It's just when push comes to shove you always blame the victim. You won't even condemn the cop who blasted the cat. So much for being a cat lover!

Cats, not so much. But a box full of kittens ......

As I have said before, on whatever post, I do not think bringing kittens to a park is some kind of kinky maneuver for sure.. Possibly, but probably not.

I lived across the street from a school yard (also where we signed up for elections), a place my husband trained our irish setter lumberyard foundling, some time later on the lawn at..
I can easily see pushing kittens there, rather than in our small house, tiny yard with fence.

So, I take your premise that foisting kittens on children is vile - as un defended.
I get that may be a mode but some of the rest of the world does that.

I hope you take the kittens story out of your batter. We don't know.

I do not even read Izzy anymore as his constant attacks get old about my attempts years ago 2009 to find homes for some kittens at a park.

Sorry I had no shame about putting out flyers by the boat load, hooking up with a rescue group in front of Pet Smart or walking a few hundred feet to a park to show the kittens off.

An no I would never turn over an animal to a child without that child parents ok at a park or in front of pet smart or anywhere else.

The sad part for both the children and the kittens is that if there was child molesters in that park or any other park for that matter it is over 90 percent more likely that the molester is a parent, a sibling, a friend of the family or a coach and so on and not a cat lover trying to find homes for some kittens.

Ps I did in the end find homes for three of the four kittens keeping one kitten and the mother. Sadly the kitten I kept died young at two years of age and the mother just passed away last week.





No not all the sick Izzys of the world would stop me from doing my best to find homes for such Kittens

Here are two of the kittens being shown at Pet Smart. Lord I now wished that I had kept two kittens as I miss having a black cat in life as they had always been lucky for me.

Really? You wouldn't think of putting an advertisement in the local paper, a shop window, contacted local schools, churches, (they also have newsletters,) asked people at work, contacted local TV and radio, put a sign in the front garden or Craigslist first?

There's plenty of legitimate ways to rehouse kittens without doing something that causes one to be asked to leave a park.

I see that my friend Izzy had posted some sick reply to my last post concerning the kittens and the mother cat Midnight who show up at my door in 2009.

One nice thing about Izzy is that you do not need to read his postings to know they will bear his mark of being both sick and disgusting in some manner or other.

As I had just lost Midnight I am in no mood to put up with his sickness so I will just let the rest of you "enjoy" whatever nonsense he had come up with this time without me.

The KKK Has Infiltrated U.S. Police Departments for Decades



During the Civil Rights movement, one of the KKK’s first orders was to infiltrate police departments around the country.
By Justin Gardner / The Free Thought Project
December 19, 2015

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/kkk-has-infiltrated-us-police-departments-decades

In 1991, a neo-Nazi white supremacist gang was terrorizing the streets of Lynwood in Los Angeles County. The reason these violent thugs could run amok was because they were deputies at the Lynwood Sheriff’s station, having the power of blue privilege.
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A federal judge acknowledged that the gang of deputies carried out “systematic acts of shooting, killing, brutality, terrorism, house-trashing and other acts of lawlessness and wanton abuse of power.”
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These maniacs were not the sudden appearance of a unique group of individuals among law enforcement, but the progeny of a decades-long effort by the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) to infiltrate police departments wherever possible.

That’s why it is so difficult to believe the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) when it said on Tuesday that there was no racial profiling in any of the 1,365 allegations leveled against the department from 2012 to 2014.

“I don’t think anybody believes that there are actually no incidents of biased policing,” said Matt Johnson, president of the Police Commission panel. “The problem is we don’t have an effective way of really adjudicating the issue.”

“While no doubt the vast majority of LAPD officers do not engage in biased policing, it strains credibility to suggest that … there were zero instances of biased policing,” said commissioner Robert Saltzman. “It should not be surprising that there is diminished trust in the LAPD given these results.”

The LAPD seems to think that the influence of neo-Nazi, white supremacist groups is a thing of the past.

A Florida deputy police chief was exposed as a member of the KKK last year, and no criminal wrongdoing was found as he resigned. In September, a Louisiana police detective was caught in a photo giving a Nazi salute at a KKK rally. An Alabama police officer recently spoke at a League of the South rally.

While the South has been fertile ground for racist groups, the KKK has penetrated many police departments around the country, as evidenced by the Lynwood horror.
Larissa Moore and four of her law school colleagues performed an investigation of unsolved civil rights murders from 1946 to 1969, under a Syracuse University program, and confirmed an ugly truth.

During the Civil Rights movement, one of the KKK’s first orders was to infiltrate police departments, “because the laws don’t apply to them if they are the law,” according to Moore.

This echoes an FBI statement in 2006 that white supremacist groups “have historically engaged in strategic efforts to infiltrate and recruit from law enforcement communities.” The federal agency’s concern seems to be selfish, though, as it stated that the hate group’s actions cause “investigative breaches and can jeopardize the safety of law enforcement sources and personnel.”

So far, the FBI has not reviewed any of the 37 cases sent to them from the program in which Moore is involved—The Cold Case Justice Initiative. Since the purview expires in 2017, there seems to be little chance that the FBI will take meaningful action.

“We have discovered hundreds of killings that aren’t on the FBI’s list that no one’s ever done a full accounting of all the people who have been killed either by Klan or by suspicious police shootings,” said Janis McDonald, a law professor at Syracuse University who co-founded CCJI with law professor Paula Johnson.

The government’s disinterest here mirrors a wider problem in law enforcement at all levels. Cops continue to inflict most of their brutality on minority groups, especially blacks. African-Americans make up only 13 percent of the population, yet they are the victims in 26 percent of all police shootings. A young black male is 3 times more likely to be killed by a cop than their white counterparts. Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Walter Scott and Tamir Rice are just a few of the recent examples.

The injustice of the drug war also falls most heavily on minorities. “More than 60% of the people in prison are now racial and ethnic minorities” and “two-thirds of all persons in prison for drug offenses are people of color.”

Clearly, the KKK has had success in establishing a culture within not only police departments but the entire “criminal justice system.” With departments like the LAPD continuing to pretend that racism does not motivate any of its officers, it will be difficult to know just how far the disease of white supremacy has spread into law enforcement.

My three votes down of posts showing Midnight and her kittens shame on you people.

To this day, I still wonder how she came to be on her own with those kittens as she been raised around humans and knew at once to used a cat litter box for example.

Could any human had been so heartless to abandon a young cat and her kittens?

I know the answer is yes and in the community I am living at we have a lot of both dogs and cats that people had taken here and abandon.

My remaining cat in fact came into my life when my neighbor told me he was no longer going to be allowed her into his home as she was now a growth cat that belong outside. Not only was she a growth cat but she was also a pregnant cat at the time.

The one dog now in my life was found walking in the middle of the roadway as a puppy and my girlfriend picked him up.

Do not understand people.

The KKK had been broken up into small local hate groups for decades now with no nationwide leadership.

Any KKK attempted to get large numbers of their remaining membership into law enforcement should have had the DOJ coming down on them like the hammer of god.

In other word your posting from an unknown website smell a little bit on it face.

Howabout giving a link to a known mainline website with this information?

I did a fast check on the " The Free Thought Project" and found what I expected to find a far far left site with zero creditable.

If you can come up with similar information from more creditable news sites I would love to read those articles.

Document any piece of your crap. Disputing is not refuting. Who do you think are: Hawkeye10 channeled through Don Rickles?

You're the king of denial.

LOL all I am asking for is the same information from any mainstream news outlet as if KKK members had become involved with any police department that should had shown up in newspapers and major news sites.

Your postings of articles from far far left websites with no other backing is kind of meaningless and that is the same for any postings anyone might do from far far right wing websites for that matter.

Seriously. You dispute historical facts. Just because you don't like you don't like who's recounting the facts? What are you denying? That the Federal gov't got involved with KKK police? Are you freaking serious????

How about this one from the Christian Science Monitor

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0721/Ku-Klux-Klan-infiltrated-Florida-police-department-video

Or this one from Huffington:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/police-kkk-florida_n_5605225.html

Or this one:

KKK membership sinks 2 Florida cops
Michael Winter, USA TODAY 6:46 p.m. EDT July 14, 2014
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(Photo: Fruitland Park Police Department)
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Echoing the once-segregated South, a Florida deputy police chief has resigned and an officer has been fired after the FBI reported that both belonged to the Ku Klux Klan

Fruitland Park Deputy Chief David Borst has denied involvement with the notorious white-hooded hate group that emerged after the Civil War and continued to terrorize and murder blacks through the mid-20th century.

The 49-year-old Borst, a department veteran of more than 20 years, was also fire chief for the Lake County city of 5,000, about 40 miles northwest of Orlando. He resigned both posts Thursday after being confronted with the FBI report.

Officer George Hunnewell, who was demoted last year over performance and attitude complaints, was fired Friday by Chief Terry Isaacs.

The state attorney's office is reviewing every arrest made by the officers and giving particular scrutiny to cases involving minorities, Isaacs said.

It the second time in five years that Klansmen have been found in the Fruitland Park Police Department. In 2009, Officer James Elkins resigned after photographs showed him in a white robe and pointy hood, and he later admitted he was a leader of the local KKK.

In the current cases, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement gave Isaacs a summary of an FBI investigation based on information from a confidential source who linked both officers to the Klan. No criminal wrongdoing was found, and the FBI said no other officers were linked to the white supremacists.

Chief Deputy State Attorney Ric Ridgway, whom Isaac contacted for advice, told the Orlando Sentinel that the report contained "a lot of fairly substantial evidence that tends to support" Borst's and Hunnewell's Klan membership.

But he pointed out that it's not illegal to belong to the KKK "even if you are the deputy chief."

"It's not a crime to hate people. It may be despicable, it may be immoral, but it's not a crime," he said.

Because of that, Fruitland Park officials had to decide whether Borst and Hunnewell had violated city standards and ethics.

"We cannot nor will we tolerate any philosophy that is inherently morally corrupt or one that espouses bigotry or any intolerance aimed at any groups or individuals because of their race, religion, ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation," said City Manager Gary La Venia.

Isaacs initially told the Orlando Sentinel on Friday that Borst was resigning for "personal family issues," and he would not address the Klan allegations.

"We are here, we are in place, and I want the public to know this type of conduct will not even be remotely tolerated," Isaacs told News 13.

Or this one from Salon:

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/16/florida_police_department_rocked_again_by_officers_alleged_klan_membership_partner/

I could go on and on and on and on but you'd still bedenying it all without reading any bit of it.

First of all the first link stated that the total membership of the KKK is now around 5,000 and given that there are roughly 1 million police officers that would mean that even if all 5,000 was sworn officers the percent of KKK members would be .5 percent of the police departments and somehow I question that the number is anywhere near there.

Next the article kept moving from the 1960s to the current time frame and all the current claim is that there was two officers of the local small town that might be KKK members and we know this as one of the men ex-wife stated that they are.

A lot of nothing at all it would seems.

What i would really want to know, Bill, is: Do you float like a duck?

'cause if you do, then you must be a witch and we'll have to burn you at the stake.