izzythepush
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 06:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Like the fictional dinosaurs in Jurassic World, redesigned and far more deadly than their predecessors.

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/jurassic-world.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 07:24 am
Quote:
The mayor of Lexington, Ky., says he's not a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Anonymous postings saying otherwise are "false, insulting and ridiculous," Jim Gray said in a statement on Monday.

Gray, the city's Democratic mayor, was responding to the release of names of purported KKK members by someone claiming to be with the hacktivist group Anonymous.

"I have never had any relationship of any kind with the KKK. I am opposed to everything it stands for. I have no idea where this information came from, but wherever it came from, it is wrong," Gray said.

Others also named began to take to Twitter Monday to deny they were members. The postings came from someone using the Twitter handle TheAnonMessage who claimed to represent the group Anonymous. That global online activist network said last week it would expose Ku Klux Klan members and publish personal details about alleged KKK adherents.

The murky world of online activists was in full display later in Monday, when another person or group that says it's affiliated with Anonymous — Operation KKK — posted that it had not released any information and implied that to do so was reckless.
The data dump began to hit PasteBin, a site used to share and store text and computer code, on Sunday evening.

As of Monday morning there had been four listings, including 57 phone numbers and 23 email addresses. Some also included spouses of the supposed KKK members.

Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., whose name appeared on one list, tweeted Monday that he was in no way involved with the KKK.
Anonymous claimed it would reveal the identity of 1,000 KKK members after gaining the information through a compromised Twitter account associated with the group.

Anonymous also is promising to unleash a social media campaign against the KKK on Nov. 4, using the hashtag #HoodsOff.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/02/reports-hacktivist-groud-anonymous-publishes-names-alleged-ku-klux-klan-members/75039282/
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 07:28 am
@izzythepush,
I'm waiting for the dump. Anonymous has been accurate up to now, and there's no reason to believe this one will be wrong.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 07:32 am
@bobsal u1553115,
The KKK are very good at terrorising other people, but when their mask comes off they're a real big bunch of cry babies.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 07:37 am
@izzythepush,
They marched in town here this spring. There were ten or so of them, without sheets but armed to the ******* teeth. I took photo and thy got pissed off and walked to another corner. I didn't have the heart to tell them that the camera was an old Kodak I got for my twelfth birthday that hasn't seen film in it for thirty years.

They waddled like a flock of ducklings waiting for a crowd to build. It never came.
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BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 08:47 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The KKK are very good at terrorising other people, but when their mask comes off they're a real big bunch of cry babies.


What the hell do you know about the KKK that had not been a power in the US since the 1960s.

Their numbers are as tiny as such outfits as the American Nazis party.

It been a long time since they had the power to terrorize anyone.
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 09:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Anonymous has been accurate up to now, and there's no reason to believe this one will be wrong.


Yes sir some unknown hackers who claimed to belong to an outfit by the name of anonymous without any proof they even have any connection to such an outfit is releasing names.

In fact the last I hear others are now claiming that they are the real anonymous not the people releasing KKK memberships names.

Yes, we should allow people to be ruin by unknown people on the internet without any proof of any kind needed.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 09:50 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
What the hell do you know about the KKK that had not been a power in the US since the 1960s.

Their numbers are as tiny as such outfits as the American Nazis party.

It been a long time since they had the power to terrorize anyone.


What do you know? It looks like they've got a few mayors and senators.

The Oklahoma bombing was pretty terrorising.
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 10:10 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
What do you know? It looks like they've got a few mayors and senators.


Sure there are US senators and such as members!!!!!!

Once more you are an idiot.

Quote:


http://www.vox.com/2015/11/2/9661162/anonymous-kkk-bogus-list

The "KKK member lists" released so far are based on a ridiculous premise

Hackers have released at least two lists of alleged KKK members, which you can read here and here. But the most important thing to know about these lists is that the people who posted them seem to believe that anyone whose contact information is in a KKK database must be a KKK member.

Of course, this is ridiculous. For example, one person on the list suspects that her name was added by a man who had an ax to grind against her. The man has also been accused of submitting other enemies' names to Klan mailing lists.

The second document lists politicians who — again, allegedly — are affiliated with the Klan. The list includes Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX). It's easy to imagine pranksters or political detractors adding Tillis, Cornyn, and other public figures to this list for spam from the Klan.

The Twitter account for the Operation KKK campaign has denied responsibility for these lists:
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 12:26 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Yes - What are the stakes?
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 01:43 pm
@BillRM,
Seriously? Where do you live, TonyRM????
bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 01:45 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Something friendly. The dump is coming tomorrow or Thursday.

I can't wait.
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 01:50 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I BillRM live in the US unlike Izzy and you who live in Fantasy land.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 02:06 pm
Redneck Bombs Walmart Because They Stopped Selling Confederate Flags
Southern Republicans are still upset over the fact that retailers are pulling Confederate Flags off their shelves, and one redneck in Mississippi decided that he’d had enough and proceeded to bomb a Walmart store. No one was hurt, but this kind of right wing extremist violence is becoming all too common in the United States today – Ironic considering that Republicans are the first ones to denounce Islam as the religion of violence.

Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.

Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 03:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
How about the stakes similar to those I used with Cyclo a while ago (although he welched until the A2K membership pressured him into "paying up"): If you are correct I will start a thread entitled "I have to admit the GOP is filled with KKK members" and if I win you will start one entitled "It’s nonsense to suggest the GOP is filled with KKK members.” You can suggest other titles if you’d like. I’m happy to negotiate with liberals. Cool

Now we have to agree on the terms of the bet:

1) All four of the Republican legislators have to appear
a. Thom Tillis (R-NC)
b. John Cornyn (R-TX) (Majority Whip of the US Senate)
c. Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
d. Dan Coats (R-IN)
2) There must be documented evidence proving the accusations
3) The evidence has to withstand scrutiny either by the accused or their supporters

We may have to wrangle over whether or not the documentation has withstood scrutiny, but I’m willing to ultimately allow a couple of A2K folks make that determination.

I will choose a member associated with your end of the political spectrum and you will choose one from mine. If they disagree, they will agree on a third member who will cast the deciding vote.

Agreed?
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 04:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
kind of right wing extremist violence is becoming all too common in the United States today


COMMON!!!!!!!!
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BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 04:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Hell it been at least two and near three generations since any US senator or anyone holding national office of any kind had been willing to be within the same room as a KKK member.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 3 Nov, 2015 04:19 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Again you're setting the parameters yourself, what documented evidence will be acceptable to you. I'm betting his membership certificate alongside a signed photo of Mickey Mouse. It's clear that the far right beliefs of the KKK and others are alive and well in the Tea Party movement.
BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 04:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Well now we are moving away from US senators and looking at the fringe groups of the republican party in the hope of finding someone wearing a hood?

Hell of a lot of different between a number of US senators and mayors of major cities and searching for the KKK on the outer borders of the republican party.

footnote I love the idea that an Englishman and not a very bright one at that can claim to be such an expert of the far right in the US.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Tue 3 Nov, 2015 04:40 pm
@izzythepush,
BillRM wrote:
The US justice system is not perfect


You wrote:
Funny how when we're talking about miscarriages of justice for black men you're very forgiving of your justice system. When we're talking about the sentencing of paedophiles you're the exact opposite.

And it's clear why that is.


I wrote:
Really?

Not clear at all. Please elucidate.


To which you responded

Quote:
It's 'logic' through a distorting lens, a scenario you set up. Like when you patronisingly talk about us foolish English who think we can survive without America's nuclear umbrella when Russia decides to attack. That's a scenario that hasn't happened and ignores our own nuclear deterrent, and ignores the reality of what has happened. During the Cuban Missile Crisis we became a target, and an expendable one because of America's imperialist ambitions.

Reality tends to be the exact opposite of your hypothetical situations.

You think Dubya's axis of evil speech was a masterpiece of political manoeuvring, in reality it ensured that the Iraqi Shia majority population would never collaborate with the Americans.

It's not a matter of disagreeing about policy, your lot are so through the looking glass that you won't even accept facts any more.


First of all if anyone is viewing the world through a distorted lens, clearly it is izzythepush, and it is a lens distorted, at least, by bitterness and animosity.

Let's recap:

Bill made a comment about the US Justice System.

You in your response asserted that he is forgiving of the system when it comes to the accused who happen to be black, but not at all forgiving when it comes to the sentencing of pedophiles. You concluded your comments with the assertion that "it is clear" why Bill views the US justice system one way when the accused is a black and the entirely opposite way when the accused is a pedophile.

It wasn't and still isn't clear to me at all what the source of Bill's dichotomy is, or more importantly, what you think it is: Bill hates pedophiles more than he hates blacks? Forgive me, but knowing you as I do, I'm hard pressed not to believe you brought pedophiles into the discussion for a specific and nasty reason, but as that wasn't clear, I asked you to explain your comment in terms of it's conclusion.

And your response? A rather incoherent, personal diatribe against me tinged with nationalistic resentment, and extending into fabrication.

First, let me remind you old son that Bill, not I, made the original comment.

Secondly when did I ever suggest that GW Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech before congress was a "masterpiece of political maneuvering?"

Thirdly, who make up my lot and what are the facts that we won't accept? The assertions of izzythepush?

Finally, perhaps you might deign to answer my original question: Why is it that Bill is forgiving of the US justice system when the accused is black and not at all so when the accused is a pedophile? Since you stated the answer was clear, you should be able to articulate it without going off on a frothing tangent of invective directed personally towards me.

But I can't wait to see what's next from you.


 

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