cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 6 Jun, 2016 09:25 pm
@tony5732,
Here are some facts on Obama. People will need to arrive at their own conclusions; it's not as simple as it may look.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update/
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 6 Jun, 2016 09:28 pm
@tony5732,
Quote:
There are a lot of questions to ask before just accepting one of your spam stories as truth


What is your problem with ABC news?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 6 Jun, 2016 09:45 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Wow! ABC now has spam stories? That's good to know.
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tony5732
 
  -1  
Mon 6 Jun, 2016 10:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My conclusion is what I just said. Got jobs, pushed energy, provided health insurance, doubled national debt.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 06:49 am

Police Leader Who Smeared Black Lives Matter as 'Terrorists' Tied to 'White Power'-Linked Biker Gang

Lt. Bob Kroll stands accused of wearing "white power" badge and brutally beating people of color.
By Sarah Lazare / AlterNet
June 2, 2016

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/kroll_0.jpg

Photo Credit: Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis/Tony Webster

The head of the Minneapolis Police Officer’s Federation has claimed that activists from the city's Black Lives Matter movement comprises a "terrorist organization." But a closer look at Lieutenant Bob Kroll’s record indicates that he is the one who poses a danger to the public, with a past marred in accusations of racist violence and attitudes, including charges from fellow police officers that he once wore a “white power” badge on his motorcycle jacket.

Kroll's outrageous statement about local civil rights protesters is part of a wider of pattern of incorporating war on terror-style rhetoric to demonize local African-American activists and politicians, even comparing them to the Islamic extremists who attacked the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Such devices have also been routinely used across the country to criminalize Muslim-American communities, which face suspicionless surveillance, profiling and entrapment at the hands of law enforcement authorities.
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Speaking at a press conference on Wednesday, Kroll described Black Lives Matter as a band of terrorists. He made the remarks in reference to public outrage and protest over white police officers’ killing of unarmed 24-year-old African-American man Jamar Clark on November 15, 2015. Clark was shot by police in the head while handcuffed, according to numerous eye-witnesses. The Department of Justice accouncement on Wednesday that it will not bring civil rights charges against the officers involved, Mark Ringgenberg and Dustin Schwarze.

For the community members who have organized ongoing demonstration including a weeks-long occupation of the fourth precinct last year before they were violently evicted by police, the Justice Department’s announcement was a painful one. But what came next from Kroll, they said, is downright dangerous.

Kroll exploited the Justice Department’s decision on Wednesday to blame Clark—who is not alive to defend himself—for his own killing. He stated: “Jamar Clark dictated the circumstances that night.” Kroll then trashed the “Justice for Jamar” movement, declaring: “I don’t see Black Lives Matter as a voice for the black community in Minneapolis.” Finally, he smeared the protesters as terrorists and implied they caused damage to the precinct and police officers’ property.

“His claims are patently false,” Nekima Levy-Pounds, president of the NAACP and civil rights attorney, told AlterNet. “It is disturbing that someone representing the rank-and-file of police would make an outrageous statement that perpetuates fear and division.”

Going further, Levy-Pounds said that Kroll’s remarks “could put people at risk of facing violence and retaliation at the hands of white supremacists and those who despise the Black Lives Matter movement.”

Fears of violent incitement are not hypothetical. Last November, alleged white supremacists opened fire at a Black Lives Matter protest in Minneapolis, wounding five people—two of them seriously.

And in February, a St. Paul police officer Jeff Rothecker was forced to resign after he was caught encouraging drivers to run over Black Lives Matter protesters slated to gather for a Martin Luther King Day mobilization. In comments posted to Facebook, which were later deleted, Rothecker stated, "Run them over. Keep traffic flowing and don’t slow down for any of these idiots who try and block the streets."

Wednesday's press conference was not the first time Kroll has issued inflammatory statements against the Black Lives Matter protesters. Last year he told a local media outlet that the protests were “like the local version of Benghazi.” He declared, “these people need to be cleared out, arrests need to be made.”

In contrast to Kroll’s characterizations, Levy-Pounds said the protests and occupation “symbolized Dr. Martin Luther King’s vision of the beloved community. We had folks from different backgrounds coming together, we supplied food and hot meals, clothes, firewood, coats. It was a place of love and peace and hope.”

“A History of Discriminatory Attitudes and Conduct”

Kroll appears to have a penchant for levying baseless smears of terrorism. Witnesses say that, in 2007, Kroll called Keith Ellison—an African-American and then the only Muslim in the U.S. House of Representatives—a “terrorist.” The accusation forced then MPD Chief Tim Dolan to send a letter to the entire police department apologizing. "The alleged comments, if they in fact occurred, are unacceptable," the chief reportedly wrote. "[C]alling Representative Keith Ellison a terrorist is a prejudicial statement.”

In 2007, five African-American police officers filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the city, police department department and police chief in which Kroll's comments about Keith Ellison and his assorted hijinx were cited. The officers testified that Kroll "has a history of discriminatory attitudes and conduct” and said that he “wears a motorcycle jacket with a ‘white Power’ badge sewn onto it.”

A 2009 article in Pioneer Press mentions that Bob Kroll was a member of City Heat, a motorcycle organization with ties to white supremacy that was repeatedly referenced as a racist institution in the African-American police officers’ lawsuit. In the article, Kroll appeared to defend the organization, which includes numerous police officers in its membership, and dismiss allegations of racism. “If there were any merit to the lawsuit, it would be able to stand on its own without the far-reaching stretch to an off-duty motorcycle club,” he said. “Ever hear the phrase ‘throw a lot against a wall and hope something sticks?’”

Even the Anti-Defamation League, which collaborates with police departments across the country and has been known to attack progressive organizations, raised the alarm about City Heat in a report entitled “Bigots on Bikes.” The ADL wrote:

[T]he City Heat Motorcycle Club, an off-duty police motorcycle club with chapters in Chicago and Minneapolis, has members who have openly displayed white supremacist symbols. Photographs of City Heat members taken by other club members and posted to the Internet have shown that some members of the club display a number of symbols on their clothing that have white supremacist or hateful connotations. One member sports a patch that asks “Are you here for the hanging?”—a reference to lynching. The lynching theme is corroborated by a small chain noose the individual wears next to the patch. Another City Heat member displays the most common Ku Klux Klan symbol, the so-called “Blood Drop Cross.” Several members wear “Proud to be white” patches, an item typically worn by white supremacists.

Kroll did not return AlterNet’s request for confirmation that he is still part of City Heat. John A. Elder of the Public Information Office of the Minneapolis Police Department, said he has “no idea if Kroll is part of City Heat or not” and did not respond to repeated requests for comment on Kroll’s declaration that BLM is a terrorist organization. City Heat's website indicates that the organization is active in Minneapolis, but the group did not respond to a request to confirm Kroll's membership. Kroll, meanwhile, has not publicly denied his involvement in the white supremacist-linked organization.

Corydon Nilsson, an organizer with Black Lives Matter – St. Paul, told AlterNet, "Our feeling with Bob Kroll is that nothing he says is credible due to his ties with City Heat."

Perhaps the most telling aspect of Kroll’s record is how he treats the public, and particularly people of color. Frustrated with media outlets’ failure to report on Kroll’s troubling history, organizers with the Twin Cities General Defense Committee Local 14 compiled a fact sheet on Kroll’s track record, outlining his lengthy history of suspensions, lawsuits and accusations of racist attacks.

As far back as 1995, Kroll was accused of beating and kicking the groin a 15-year-old child of mixed race while hurling racial slurs. (He was eventually cleared by a federal jury). In 2002, Kroll was involved in a brutal raid on the home of a Native-American family which resulted in a lawsuit that the city settled for $60,000. “The residents alleged that he was among a dozen officers who beat and humiliated them throughout the course of a three-hour search, which included grabbing a pregnant woman out of the shower,” wrote City Pages reporter Susan Du.

Kroll has also been accused of verbally threatening a city council member, and physically assaulting a man at an annual art fair in 2004 alongside a fellow police officer.

These are just a portion of of the lawsuits and accusations that have marred Kroll's past, yet the officer has evaded serious consequences. According to Libor Jany of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, as of last year Kroll’s records showed that he has faced at least “19 other internal-affairs complaints during his 26 years on the force, all but three of which were closed without discipline. He has been reprimanded once in recent years, and he also was suspended after being accused of using excessive force, records show.”

Kroll is hardly alone in employing war on terror-style rhetoric to appears to demonize Black Lives Matter. Last year, New York Police Department Commissioner William Bratton—one of the most powerful law enforcement officials in the country—compared Black Lives Matter protesters to terrorists and announced a new heavily armed “Strategic Response Group” to “assist us in dealing with demonstrations.” Meanwhile, Black Lives Matter protesters have been preemptively spied on by both the law enforcement and the FBI, from New York to Minnesota, and during the militarized show of force in Ferguson.

"Since 9/11, all manner of legitimate protests have been characterized by law enforcement of all stripes as acts of terrorism," Vince Warren, executive director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, told AlterNet. "The police union is attempting to play the one card they have left, which is the fear card."

Sarah Lazare is a staff writer for AlterNet. A former staff writer for Common Dreams, she coedited the book About Face: Military Resisters Turn Against War. Follow her on Twitter at @sarahlazare.
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tony5732
 
  -1  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 10:58 am
@bobsal u1553115,
It's just twisting facts that's all.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 11:01 am
@tony5732,
Please identify which facts were twisted?
tony5732
 
  -2  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 12:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
"Many from low income neighborhoods" "who typically vote Democrat". The cool thing about the term "many" is that the word could mean any number of people. The cool thing about it the word typically is that it could mean a lot of different things too. "TYPICALLY, people from Black Lives Matter have been in trouble with police before and are black, and MANY of them have committed crimes that have hurt people in the past, including robbery, assault, prostitution, destruction of property, and much more." The statements in the article are not untrue, the wording is just biased in that article. That's why I said "twisted".
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 01:01 pm
@tony5732,
That's true; many can be construed in many ways. Here's the definition:
Quote:
man·y
ˈmenē/Submit
determiner, pronoun, & adjective
1.
a large number of.
"many people agreed with her"
synonyms: numerous, a great/good deal of, a lot of, plenty of, countless, innumerable, scores of, crowds of, droves of, an army of, a horde of, a multitude of, a multiplicity of, multitudinous, multiple, untold; More
antonyms: few
noun
plural noun: many
1.
the majority of people.
"music for the many"
synonyms: people, common people, masses, multitude, populace, public, rank and file, proletariat, mob; More
tony5732
 
  -2  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 02:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Exactly. So there is no numeric definition of many. Many COULD mean 12 people, or many could mean 5000 people. Depending on what you consider " a large number"
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 04:22 am
Wrongfully Convicted Black Man Who Spent 5 Years in Prison for Rape Comments on Turner's Sentence
Wrongfully Convicted Black Man Who Spent 5 Years in Prison for Rape Comments on White Student’s Lenient Sentence

http://yourblackworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Brian_banks.jpg

Brian Banks was a high school football star with his whole life ahead of him when a false rape allegation landed him in prison. Banks, who has since been cleared of the charges, can be counted among those who are outraged by the lenient sentence handed down to a white swimmer convicted of rape.

Stanford swimmer Brock Turner was by all accounts an all-American student before he was convicted of sexual assault. Turner had been facing up to 14 years in prison, with prosecutors requesting he be sentenced to six.

Judge Aaron Persky, however, dismissed both the sentencing guidelines and the recommendations of prosecutors in sentencing 23-year-old Turner to six months in prison for assaulting a female student behind a dumpster. It is likely that with good behavior, Turner will be out of jail in only six months.

snip:

“I would say it’s a case of privilege,” Banks said. “It seems like the judge based his decision on lifestyle. He’s lived such a good life and has never experienced anything serious in his life that would prepare him for prison. He was sheltered so much he wouldn’t be able to survive prison. What about the kid who has nothing, he struggles to eat, struggles to get a fair education? What about the kid who has no choice who he is born to and has drug-addicted parents or a non-parent household? Where is the consideration for them when they commit a crime?”

Although the judge was empathetic to Turner, Banks said the judge in his case couldn’t have cared less.

http://yourblackworld.net/2016/06/07/wrongfully-convicted-black-man-who-spent-5-years-in-prison-for-rape-comments-on-white-students-lenient-sentence/
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 05:02 am
Dr. Sinclair Grey III – Can ‘White Male Privilege’ Ever Come To An End?

These ‘so-called United States of America’ has always played favorites. Even though many have seen as well as witnessed some of the strides people from all walks of life have accomplished, there is without a doubt the notion that ‘white male privilege’ is still dominant. Let me say it this way. Whenever ‘white male privilege’ gets to flex its muscle, either financially, politically, and in the recent case of Brock Turner, judicially, people are reminded that we have a long way to go to see justice and equality.

The recent sentencing of Brock Turner to only six months in jail by Judge Michael Aaron Persky shows how corrupt our criminal justice system continues to be. Think about it for a moment. Black and Brown people are convicted and sentenced to longer sentences for much lesser crimes than the sentence Turner received after being convicted of rape. There is no justification towards the leniency Judge Persky handed down to this rapist. A letter from the father stating his son had no prior legal troubles contributed to the judge’s decision. In addition to that, it should be noted that Judge Persky was probably looking out for a fellow Stanford student. How deep is alumni loyalty to a fellow student who commits the crime of rape and gets off with a slap on the wrist?

America needs to wake up and address the disparity of handing down prison sentences. No one is so naive as to think there isn’t any difference in how Blacks, Whites, and Latinos are sentenced. Those who have the financial means are afforded the best attorney’s and resources while those who don’t have the financial means or should I say (the have not’s) are stuck with insufficient representation.

What’s so troubling in this ‘white male privilege’ case of Brock Turner is that the victim has to relive her nightmare. Often times, the ‘white male privilege’ syndrome doesn’t care who it/he hurts. It’s all about self-gratification. Let’s be real for a second. ‘White male privilege’ is alive and well. Because it’s alive and well, it will crush, degrade, and demean anyone and anything that gets in its way. As soon as those who are not privileged to that upper echelon come to grips with this idea, perhaps change will happen.

http://yourblackworld.net/2016/06/07/dr-sinclair-grey-iii-can-white-male-privilege-ever-come-to-an-end/
tony5732
 
  -3  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 10:16 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Yeah this one is BS. You think O.J. and Michael Jackson didn't have awesome legal representation because they were black? Sure, rich people have better lawyers and better legal representation. However, this article plays off the assumption that white people make their money easier, and more of it. Some white people are "connected" and have it easier that way, but that holds true for any race and any person who decides to take time to network or just work really hard to start making money. This isn't a race thing. Money does not care what color you are. For example, I need a computer built. If you are a black man who knows how to build a computer, you are still as valuable as a white guy who can build a computer, because at the end of the day I am going to pay whoever is charging less to get my computer built and I am not going to give a **** what color they are.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 11:26 am
@tony5732,
You're blind as a bat in daylight.
Quote:
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Why Republicans Won’t Renounce Trump
Far too many in the G.O.P. share his racism, even if they’re not as open about it.

By ANDREW ROSENTHAL


My Opinion: There's only one reason why Trump is popular; his racism. He has nothing to offer this country and its people. Racism came out of the woodworks when Trump announced running for the highest office, and building a wall between the US and Mexico.

tony5732
 
  -1  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 02:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
How is that being blind? Trump IS playing off racism. So is Hillary by catering to Black Lives Matter. Race is just part of the political process. Barrack Obama got 98% of the African-American vote. Guess why. Trump also had the cheapest campaign, self funded, is not a politician, has a lot in common with Bernie on foreign trade policy, is a successful businesses man, is tough, supports gun rights, supports babies right to exist, and happens to be the only kind of conservative left standing. He has more to offer than racism, but he plays that card just like Hillary does with Blacks and women.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 06:38 pm
@tony5732,
Trump is a 'textbook racist' who will not win. His supporters are white, older, uneducated, racial bigots. Their numbers get smaller with every generation.
TheCobbler
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 09:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13419159_1050506968338106_4457971581200925546_n.jpg?oh=da96855b3aae18dfc267d74d06fba432&oe=57C3EDAD
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 09:42 pm
@TheCobbler,
That tells us a whole lot about Ryan - based on his actions, and not the words he spews. Some people wants it both ways. A racial bigot is a racial bigot who supports a racial bigot.
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TheCobbler
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 09:46 pm
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13419220_1137932769603874_5342915847672081834_n.jpg?oh=52db485a97007e2d4e8dea29e3413155&oe=580E83DF
tony5732
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Jun, 2016 09:27 am
@cicerone imposter,
The Republicans underestimated him too. I also really don't get the difference between textbook racist and racist. 98% of black people voted Obama. Is that textbook racist or racist? Hillary is going to get the most women voters because she is a woman. Is that sexist, or textbook sexist? How about always assuming a cop needs to go to jail because of his skin color?
 

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