Black Lives Matter

Racism has many faces. I'm surprised it happened on the West Coast.

California is the home of the John Birch Society.

I'm a fiscal conservative, but have no association with any political party. Any legal society or organization can base their home in any state of the country. None of my business.

I just saw this. I had to wince that my phrasing looked like an homage to the thread title.

My meaning was: Clinton apologists who saw what Bill said immediately read around for the talking points from the Clinton campaign. They don't give a **** about what Bill's comments actually mean - or what impact this revelation had on literally millions of black families from the 90s til today. He stunted the growth of a race of people - he deserves a footnote in the tragic history of black Americans as far as I (and many others) are concerned, but he'll get a pass from establishment Ds.

However.

Seeing Bill Clinton make words about it - and seeing him slight young black people who came for answers - opened the eyes of a LOT of people who've been tucked down in his back pocket for decades.

THOSE are the people, imo, who needed to hear and see their hero in action, and they are the ones I referred to in the post you asked about.

What exactly do you consider a fiscal conservative? Is it someone who believes in supply side economics?

From Wiki: "Fiscal conservatism is a political-economic philosophy regarding fiscal policy and fiscal responsibility advocating low taxes, reduced government spending and minimal government debt. Free trade, deregulation of the economy, lower taxes, and privatization are defining qualities of fiscal conservatism."

Yeah, I coulda read the wiki definition on my own. I was just wondering if you had an individual take. Like, I'll get a couple of different answers if I ask people what being a liberal means.

No really. The definition pretty much covers what I believe in the term.

Ok cool

No Jail Time for Judge Who was Caught on Video Torturing a Defendant in Courtroom

The Free Thought Project April 11, 2016 1 Comments



(RT) — A judge who ordered the electric shock of a defendant in court has been fined and put on probation.

Robert C Nalley, a former judge in Maryland, was sentenced to anger management classes, a year of probation, and was hit with a $5,000 fine on Thursday.

Nalley pled guilty to deprivation of rights under color of law for ordering a deputy sheriff to shock a defendant during a 2014 criminal trial, SM News reports. The defendant was wearing a “stun cuff” on his ankle and fell to the ground screaming after he was shocked, as seen in the court video.

Delvon King was up on firearm charges and was wearing the ankle cuff due to his detainee status in Charles County. The stun cuff allows authorities to administer punishment from afar, by pressing a button to send a shock to the wearer.

King was representing himself at the time. It was during the jury selection process that Nalley objected to King’s reading of a prepared statement. Nalley ordered King to stop reading, and then told an officer to administer a shock. “Mr Sheriff, do it, use it!” Nalley ordered.

King was shocked for five seconds with a 50,000-volt shock, and screamed loudly throughout. After the shock, King can be heard crying in pain.

“I got shocked and I was screaming for help. They had no reason to harm me like that. I really didn’t expect for any of that to happen,” King said following the event.

“Disruptive defendants may be excluded from the courtroom and prosecuted for obstruction of justice and contempt of court, but force may not be used in the absence of danger,” said US Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein at sentencing on Thursday.

Nalley is no longer allowed to preside over cases in Maryland, and acknowledged the use of the stun cuff was“unreasonable under the circumstances.” No kidding.

Nalley had a reputation for unusual behavior before the shocking incident. In August 2009, he deflated the tires of a car belonging to a cleaner in the La Plata courthouse. Her ‘crime’ was using the judge’s parking spot after hours because she didn’t feel comfortable walking through the parking lot alone at night.

After attempting to justify his actions, Nalley pled guilty and was forced to write an apology to the cleaner, and was given probation.

Nalley was a judge on the Circuit Court in Charles County Maryland from 1988 to 2014.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/jail-time-judge-caught-video-torturing-defendant-courtroom/#veiBl35V5hYPQ3DO.99

White high school teacher arrested in Texas after alleged attack on black student caught on video

A teacher at a Texas high school has been arrested and charged with assault after her alleged assault on a student was caught on video.

Mary Hastings is a 63-year-old geometry teacher at Ozen High School in Beaumont, Texas, a city of about 120,000 about 90 miles east of Houston. On Friday during her fourth period math class, she was filmed allegedly attacking a student who reportedly asked about a grade.



What preceded the alleged attack was not clear.

"Because you're stopping him from graduating, you idiot ass!" Hastings said in a video, pushing papers off the student's desk and slapping him five times with an open palm. When the student asked why she had hit him -- "Why you did that?" -- Hastings repeated his words, mocking him.

After the widely shared video was posted to Twitter on April 8, Hastings was arrested that day and charged with one count of assault, 12 News reported. She was released on $2,500 bond.
Atyra Deroune, a 10th grader at Ozen who witnessed the alleged attack, told 12 News that it was

out-of-character.

"She was a really cool teacher," Deroune said. "It was just that particular day."

Other students who talked to KHOU, but that the TV station did not name, offered the same impression.

"I just didn't think that Miss Hastings would do something like that to one of her students," one said.

"She is a caring teacher," another said. "She cares for her students. But she . . . students do give her a hard time sometimes."

Deroune said the alleged attack was as vicious as it appeared in the video.

"He asked Miss Hastings for the grade or whatever, and she went AWOL," Deroune said. "She picked up a bucket of papers, threw it at him."

But Deroune said such behavior was unexpected. Hastings was not known as a stern character.



"She was a cool teacher - she wasn't always mad," Deroune said. "But when she was ready to teach us, for us to learn, she got serious. But she was always a laid-back teacher, cool with the kids."

Hastings declined comment to 12 News and KHOU.

In a statement the Beaumont Independent School District, of which Ozen High is a part, responded to the alleged assault, saying it had "substantiated" the conduct.

"The Beaumont Independent School District can confirm that an Ozen High School teacher was arrested today for physically assaulting a student," it wrote. "The conduct was substantiated by video footage viewed by BISD police and administration. The District is committed to providing a safe and secure environment for our students. BISD does not condone employees abusing any child and will not tolerate such conduct. The teacher was immediately removed from the classroom and placed on administrative leave pending action on her contract."

Ozen High has more than 1,100 students, 98 percent of which are minorities, and 81 percent of which are economically disadvantaged, according to U.S. News and World Report. It was described unfavorably on greatschools.org, an "independent nonprofit and the leading national source of school information for families," where it earned three out of five stars.

"One of the worst places I've ever been placed," one review, purportedly from a former student, read. "It was a year of experiencing the closest thing to jail. Violence, terrible teachers, insane gangs of students running wild. Never again."

"I am a recent graduate of Ozen High school and I believe that the school has great potential but the staff needs a little work," another review read. "If they spent more time teaching [than] harrassing students on simple things that doesn't matter the school would be great."

I've long heard the word liberal and Liberal used differently by people in different countries, or different people of the same country. That has been shown many times in a2k discussions. Usually the U.S. take on it is mildly more to the left than the European or other's countries' takes. I think European people take it as not meaning radical left or even middle left, more of a word meaning not quite to the right, but some americans do think of it as meaning "way out there" rad..

Yeah, and to make it even weirder in Australia our centre-right party is called the "Liberal Party".

And maybe it was when it was formed in the 1940s. Hasn't moved much socially since then.

Centre right is the usual definition applied here, although some members of the Liberal Party see themselves as centre left. I bloody don't. A centre left party would never have gone into coalition with the Tories.

I wondered if you noticed a new trend in schools with over-zealousness of teachers or police in schools with disciplining students? I read yesterday about police body slamming a 12 year old girl, this wasn't a big girl either from what I could tell, not that, that would make it right, just saying. I think she was woozy afterwards.

For sure.

I've noticed that. Police in schools in the first place 'get to me'. I know that has been an arrangement in some schools for a while now, but have no clue when it started, my being both older now and not connected to any schools.

I think (not sure) it started with school shootings and gangs in school. I can understand to a point, but it seems like everything else to be over kill so speak. I have two granddaughters who are very close to me. Girls nowadays are different than when I or you were in school, they fight more like boys now, but they are still not as big as boys (some are) and it just seemed to me the cop in the above video didn't have to pick her up and slam her head on the concrete to restrain her.

That is assuming that she did not have a weapon of some nature such as a knife and it had been reported that she have a history of fighting.

In any case, if the cop had not gone in strongly and the results would had been seriously harmed or even killed student then everyone would be looking to hang the cop.