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Charleston Church Massacre: Thug, Terrorism, Disturbed Loner?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 05:51 pm
Given how important that the journalists take the fact that the dead people are black I have to think that black peoples lives are more important than white peoples. These fuckers in the elite drive racism, then whine that that we have racism, they blame all the little people for it. Explain to me again why we take these clowns seriously someone please.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 05:58 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Twitter is really furious. A lot of blacks and millennials are making points about the difference in the way murders are covered in the press.

"Watch. They'll start saying he was mentally ill," many of them tweeted. This jabbed my sensibilities because I strongly assume the shooter IS mentally ill.

But, why didn't I think that about the Boston bombers? I immediately assigned them terrorist status, and wanted them to pay. Same with James Whatever who shot up a movie theater. Upon seeing his glazed eyed nutty face, I instantly relegated him to psycho status.

But, I think these angry people have a point. Do you feel comfortable with the method you use to delineate these people?


In the past 5 years related to all these shootings. ALL of the shooters have been mentally ill or have had a case of psychological issues. But it makes sense that these people would be mentally ill. But for some reason the liberal media that is anti-gun don't want to bring up this as being an issue. They would rather push their anti-gun agendas instead.

I rarely ever care about what the group thinks about a story. Id rather roll it over in my own head and do my own research before coming to a conclusion. I definitely am not going to back down if someone tries to tell me not to come to some conclusion, if the evidence points directly to that conclusion.

Let's face it, you have to have at least some psychological disorder to shoot another human being, unless it was in self defense or protecting your home.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 06:29 pm
@Krumple,
The headline here is Deranged 21 year old kills many with a gun. The nature of his derangement is a trivial matter, not worthy of spending much time on because it will not help us to understand what went wrong here, or prevent it in the future. The idiocy of todays elite is mind blowing, and it is they who are selling this cautionary morality tale. The subtext here is not that this is what can happen when people become mentally ill, it is that this is what can happen when individuals are not forced to love all of the groups the the elites tell us to love. This story has been completely hijacked to drive a political agenda.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 07:02 pm
You guys are too fucked in the head to respond to.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 07:20 pm
Charleston Church Massacre: Thug, Terrorism, Disturbed Loner?

Let's add racist and white supremacist to the possible descriptions. and motivations, of this latest mass shooter.
Quote:
Dylann Roof, Charleston Suspect, Wore Symbols of White Supremacy
By JASON HOROWITZ, SHAILA DEWAN and RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
JUNE 18, 2015

CHARLESTON, S.C. — The Facebook profile picture chosen by Dylann Storm Roof in May is thick with symbolism. It shows Mr. Roof, a scowling young white man, against a distinctly Southern backdrop: a swamp dripping with Spanish moss. His black jacket is adorned with two flags — one from apartheid-era South Africa, the other from white-ruled Rhodesia — that have been adopted as emblems by modern-day white supremacists.

Law enforcement officials identified Mr. Roof, 21, as the suspect in the mass shooting at an African-American church in Charleston on Wednesday night that left nine dead, including the pastor, Clementa C. Pinckney. Mr. Roof was arrested Thursday in North Carolina.

A cousin of Mr. Pinckney who had spoken to a witness, Sylvia Johnson, told NBC that the gunman entered the church, asked for the pastor and sat next to him during Bible study before opening fire. “I have to do it,” he said, according to Ms. Johnson. “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.” The shooting was being investigated as a hate crime....
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/on-facebook-dylann-roof-charleston-suspect-wears-symbols-of-white-supremacy.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0


The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, the F.B.I., and the United States Attorney’s Office for South Carolina have opened a hate crime investigation into the shooting.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 07:26 pm
http://i59.tinypic.com/eiw9at.png

Punk! Evil or Very Mad
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 09:01 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

You guys are too fucked in the head to respond to.


Will will of course enjoy getting your rocks off using this event to sell your race politics. If you on the other hand decide you want to try to understand what happened, or to keep it from happening again, you will investigate how guys like me read the lay of the land. America is the dictionary definition of the idiot brute that misreads events and responds poorly, that is how we got to having by far the most people in prison, to be one of the only advanced nation where the government kills citizens in retribution, and squandering over $4 trillion in one poorly conceived military excursion. In order to do different, do better, we need a new way of thinking . We need to stop with the knee jerk reaction of retribution, which is back filled with rationalizing our brutality.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 10:14 pm
@edgarblythe,
It might technically be a fanion in which case it is not treated as a flag .
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 10:18 pm
@edgarblythe,
So all you want to do is moan and not discuss it . Why start a thread ?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 10:38 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

So all you want to do is moan and not discuss it . Why start a thread ?


I am pretty sure it is to trot out the rote responses that are usually tossed out after these kinds of events.....isms are bad, wrong thinking is dangerous, wrong thinking needs to be stamped out with vigour, gun lovers suck, rural folks suck and so on and so forth.

I seriously doubt that discussion and/or examination was intended or is wanted.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 10:58 pm
@Lash,
So how come god didn't intervene to protect these people? My point being religious people try to claim all the time that they can pray for people to get better when sick. So does god only take action if someone first prays? Or during a natural disaster, some family is caught in a tornado somewhere and they pray to god for safety and they survive? Then thank god they survived but the other family down the street that got hit by the same tornado was probably praying too yet they die.

Maybe god was just trying to use these people as an example to get people talking. Or this is just another example that there is no god and crazy **** happens. At least this woulda been a nice method to prove divine intervention. I dunno, make the kids gun jam or all the bullets fired miraculously missed every person. Bullet holes found behind where people were sitting but strangely they were never struck by any bullets. I guess god missed a good opportunity to promote himself.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:07 pm
@Krumple,
WOW, you are one dedicated religion hater. Try letting the hate go and letting other folks live their lives as they want so long as they are not hurting you, the liberation will be a revelation.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:11 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
It might technically be a fanion in which case it is not treated as a flag .
The Confederate flag's presence on the statehouse grounds is legally protected under the 2000 South Carolina Heritage Act. (1999-2000 Bill 4895: Heritage Act of 2000)
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:16 pm
@Krumple,
I can see science is not your big point . There are very good reason to pray and to thank your emotional side if you have a win .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
If a flag is not officially recognised by a federal aunthority, eg. national flags, state flags, it is officially a fanion ie a minor flag like device, eg the Presidential flag is legally a fanion . A device used for festivals is a penant . People use these so interchangeably as to have added new meanings to dictionaries but these new meanings are not legal definitions in international law .
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:29 pm
@Ionus,
That above mentioned bill calls it "flag".
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:33 pm
Quote:
Update, 8:45 p.m.: Dalton Tyler, the roommate of Dylann Roof, told ABC News that Roof had been planning an attack like the one he carried out in Charleston for months. Roof had been “planning something like that for six months,” Tyler told ABC News. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/charleston_mass_shooting_suspect_in_emanuel_ame_church_hate_crime_still.html

A good clue that this guy knew what to say and do to stir the ****, which was likely his real agenda, not any personal opinions on the matter of race.But when the subject turns to race brains tend to shut down, very few will get very far into understanding what just happened. So it it keep happening.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:34 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
They can call it a dog if they want, it doesnt make it one and the amount of legal garbage put out by legislature is why we have courts and a High/Supreme Court . It doesnt have a leg to stand on if it is legally challenged . It is not legally a flag . What State or Country does it represent ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
Yep . And so it keeps happening . People want to go tut-tut and feel good about themselves . They dont want to do anything, especially understand the problem.
Krumple
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2015 11:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

WOW, you are one dedicated religion hater. Try letting the hate go and letting other folks live their lives as they want so long as they are not hurting you, the liberation will be a revelation.


It's not hate, just showing the inconsistency of religious claims. I would do the same for claims of astrology and aliens visiting the earth. So just because I object to their claims, I am suppose to not say anything? So if you have a point to be made well if it's religious in nature, you can't say it.. There is no end of religious people spouting out their nonsense and putting forth their discrimination. But I'm somehow in the wrong for pointing out the lack of consistency. Funny..
 

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