THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

total gas = air * total gas = phart * total gas = invisible (to truth)

The WMD were no fairy tale. It is agreed they existed in Iraq as of 1991. What is not agreed is what happened to them subsequently. There is no compelling evidence that the Saddams destroyed them. There is some aerial photo evidence that the Saddams trucked them into Syria just prior to the invasion of Iraq. The whole thing is a mystery but not a fairy tale.

On the otherhand, John Kerry is a purveyor of fairy tales, or in plainer language, John Kerry is a charlatan.

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His tax proposal for increasing federal revenue enough to pay for the increased expenditures he has recommended for both increases in domestic programs and miltary support is a fairy tale. He proposes to increase the income tax rate on those making more than $200 thousand, while decreasing it on those making less, and, thereby generate the additional revenue needed for what he recommends. His tax plan will not even come close to generating the additional revenue his plan requires. Worse, his program will inevitably stifle US economic growth in general and job growth in particular.

His proposal for bilateral negotiations with the North Koreans as a way to get them to cancel their nuclear program is a fairy tale. It's the same failed approach the previous administration tried.

His proposal to offer nuclear material to Iran as an incentive for them giving up their development of nuclear weapons is a fairy tale. That same approach was tried by the previous administration with North Korea and it resulted in North Korea developing nuclear weapons anyway.

His proposal to increase the number of nations participating in the coalition--as well as increase the contributions of each nation--to securing Iraq, is a fairy tale. France, Germany, and Russia have already rejected participating regardless of whom is elected. He has insulted current coalition members. His sister is currently in Australia busy trying to elect a socialist candidate president of Australia who recommends Australia leave Iraq.

His claim that he can do a better job than George Bush is a fairy tale. He has revealed that his "secret plan" in that regard is his plan to develop a plan after he is inaugurated. His resume and his campaign to date reveal only his incompetence to accomplish anything more than the falsification of events and other people's motives and accomplishments, and the obstruction of other people's efforts.

But he is a competent windsurfer.

Because you neo-dems are expending so much effort now castigating alleged religious intolerance in the US, I gather you think it is a greater threat to world security than the religious intolerance expressed in Osama's fatwahs and implemented by Osama's al Qaeda.

I find it hard to believe that New Mexico is all that different than Arizona. There have been numerous articles about the problem in our local newspaper.
Bishops split on advising Catholics in voting booth

So I guess the negotiable issues are capital punishment and the unjust war in Iraq which the Pope has come down against.


2nd vote guide targets Catholics

Intolerance

Well all I know is that just these last few years politics has been creeping into the church more than it was in my own personal experience and the sermons are starting to sound like something you would hear in campaign speeches at times.

For that matter just watch some religious shows on cable. Watch the 700 club or any other religious show on tv and you will get a mixture of "religion" and right wing republican ideals that millions watch and listen to. It has the effect of indoctrinizing (word?)a lot of voters.

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What is it about the war in Iraq that makes it unjust?

What is it about the war in Afghanistan that makes it just?

The only congregations in New Mexico that have been reported as signing up voters to vote along with instructions of who to vote for have been minority churches and it has been Kerry supporters leading those initiatives.

As for the Pope, he's between a rock and a hard place isn't he? Against abortion and against the war. Gonna be tough for him to take a side.

As for the 700 Club and other television programs, I wonder if Revel has as much problem with Hollywood types organizing to defeat Bush....they have a lot more influence and a much broader forum to exert it. Or is it just Christians who aren't supposed to have an opinion or point of view?

And Ican, the only thing I can figure is that the only moral war is one that the Democrats start and run.

Fox, You are totally blind; the pope already told catholics not to vote for Kerry.

http://www.kerrywrongforcatholics.com/

Wow thanks for that link C.I. I know a few fence sitters I'm pretty sure I can sway with it.

I didn't read every single line, but does it say there specifically that the pope told people not to vote for Kerry? Or some Catholic organization is pointing out how un-Catholic Kerry is? There's a difference between explaining which side a candidate is on and telling people how to vote for him.

I do believe Church leaders need to speak out on immorality of all kinds and that includes even the controversial issues. I have no objection to a religious type explaining why abortion should be legal on humanitarian grounds and I have no objection to a religious type explaining why abortion is wrong.

For that reason the people paying for that website "Kerry is wrong for Catholics" almost certainly is a PAC group and not a not-for-profit group. But it is no different than Democrats running ads "Bush is wrong for seniors" or "Bush is wrong for minorities".

It is perfectly legal, and proper, for any group to spell out the issues and who does and does not support what. Any not for profit group, including a Church, who would endorse or promote a political candidate would lose their not-for-profit status however.

What's your reaction to the fact that black Christian church leaders are advocating that their congregations vote for John Kerry?

Because the repubs are intimidating black voters in Florida?

How are the repubs doing that? I thought it was the democs running the polls in 2000 who denied a lot of blacks the right to vote in Florida.

I typed "gop intimidation of blacks in florida" and got 15,100 hits. You can very well do your own research; it's very easy to find.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1112505.stm

Down with religion. There should be an amendment to the constitution to outlaw it. Any politician who refers to it should have his tongue ripped out.

You can type in 'Kerry bad' and get a 119000 hits C.I., similar results for 'Kerry waffle', "Kerry flipflop', 'Kerry lies' etc. I could keep on with similar adjectives. On the other hand, your Google search includes a lot of material showing how the GOP in no way intimidated anybody in the 2000 election. And Ican is right: in every single precinct in which black claimed they were denied their right to vote, Democrats were in charge.

Damn! They sure came out late with THAT piece of information!

You'd have thought white robed, hooded spectres with Hell yes, I'm a Republican signage had been barring the door and shouting racial epithets.

it's always the image that counts in america, and repubs have a long historical image of racism, deserved or not just like dems have a long historical image of civil rights, deserved or not. It's still the image that counts, not the facts. Just like in the oaters, the black hats against the white hats and no one cares what's under the hats.

Actually I do care Dys. Despite my reputation here on A2K as a rapid partisan, I decide, and vote, on principles, not labels. I advocate the same for everybody.