Thinking more about the John Kerry Income Tax Fairy Tale, I conclude I left something important out of the analysis.
I forgot what the effect would be of transferring all that income to the Federal Government for subsequent redistribution.
Consider Teresa Heinz Kerry's alleged charitable contributions. She'd have less income to contribute to charity and so would the other buggers earning more then $200 thousand.
Additionally, those buggers would have less money to buy luxuries. The luxury producers (e.g., of mansions, yachts, lemos, high tech toys, airplanes, vacation spas, etc.) would have fewer sales and would have to reduce their number of employees.
Also, the buggers would have less to invest in building their businesses, or have less incentive to invest thereby reducing employment opportunities for the younger folks. That in turn would lead to fewer buggers to replace current buggers.
Oh Oh, that would in turn lead to less income generated by the income tax rate increase on the buggers than I originally projected. But the amount previously projected was already not enough to achieve Kerry's objectives.
That's the way it generally goes with fairy tales, Kerry's or any one else's.
What you talkin bout, Ican?
How can the concentration of more wealth in fewer hands be a good thing?
A man, be he never so rich, can only live in one house at a time, sleep in one bed, wear one suit. Distribution of money and incentives through society is the engine which drives it.
To say nothing of decency of standards and the dignity of man.
Does it concern anyone here, do you ever think about it, about the modern proliferation of gated wealthy housing enclaves which are to keep other citizens out?
Is it a healthy society which has such stark differentials in wealth? Or a safe one?
My sister lives in a gated housing complex, because her son bought the house for her. We live in Sunnyvale, California, one of the safest cities of populations over 100,000 in the US. Wealth? For us, we bought this house over 30 years ago. Most that live here would not be able to buy their own homes at current prices.
au1929 wrote:Kerry should insist that Bush be frisked before the next debate. Or better still insist that the dummy who helped him at the first debate help him on the next. :wink: :wink: :wink:
I did some checking, the device that was noticed is in reality known as 'the autoheimlicher'. Say a terrorist attacks Bush armed with a bag of pretzels and succeeds in placing a pretzel into the President's mouth .... without intervention he could be dead within minutes. Enter the 'autohemlicher'. the pretzel is detected, then repeated hemlich thrust are given until Bush is out of danger. Sorry, no conspiracy ....
McTag wrote:What you talkin bout, Ican? How can the concentration of more wealth in fewer hands be a good thing?
I don't think that's a good thing unless it's honorably earned by
all hands. Then I think it's a very good thing as long as it continues to be honorably earned by
all hands. Let the best and most honorable hands win the most.
I do think it's a good thing to recognize that John Kerry is a purveyor of fairy tales.
I think it's a good thing to root for
everyone to have more.
I think it's a bad thing to want
anyone to have less.
By the way, are you aware that the number of millionaires in the US is growing steadily?
ican711nm wrote:I do think it's a good thing to recognize that John Kerry is a purveyor of fairy tales.
weapons of mass destruction. ah ahahahahahaha.
good one ican.
I don't know about where you live, but if a District Attorney and a Chief of Police went to a Judge and said "We got a report says this guy Sam, who's been kind of a problem in his neighborhood, has got a bunch of bad things in his house and we want to go in there and find them."
The Judge says "Well wait a sec, we raided that house awhile back and didn't find much of anything then and what we did find we busted up and we put that fence up in the back and the front so the guy can't even go where he wants and we got a social worker or two working with him and they say they haven't found anything. So?"
"So," say the Chief and the DA," it shows that he must be hiding something, so we really don't need your stamp of approval anyways, we just wanted you to know we're going in."
And they do. They bust in. Break up a bunch of furniture, arrest the guy on some old warrants and scare the sh.t of of his relatives so that they start fighting amongst themselves and it's a terrible mess.
Oh, and there's no bad stuff, the guy was a big bluff. You know the type.
"Hey," say the neighbors (and about half of the DA's kids), "what the hell were you guys thinking? I thought you were trying to find that gang of smash and grabs, now look what you did!"
"But he was a bad man, and we really thought he had the bad stuff."
Wouldn't you throw these guys out on their ass?
awww fu*k, joe-eee. dis fuc*kin' guy, he wuz a' ass*ole. he needed ah good slap uppa the sidea da head.
wha? yoo think dat's wrong? jeez.. tellit ta da faddah come sunday...
p.s. give my regards to mcsorleys
Joe Nation, that's right.
And the guys should not only be "thrown out on their ass", they should be tried in an international court for crimes against humanity.
Wutcha guys talk'n bout? The DA and chief of police are christians; they're in the right, cause they talk to god alla time. The DA? He's try'n to pass a law that will allow the po-lese to tap dese kinna people's telephone, get their bank and church records, income tax information, and what dey buy in the stores. Dey can bring them into the jail house and question them for hours, cause they is suspected of some bad stuff in dere house.
After all, this is Merica!
cicerone imposter wrote:Wutcha guys talk'n bout? The DA and chief of police are christians; they're in the right, cause they talk to god alla time. The DA? He's try'n to pass a law that will allow the po-lese to tap dese kinna people's telephone, get their bank and church records, income tax information, and what dey buy in the stores. Dey can bring them into the jail house and question them for hours, cause they is suspected of some bad stuff in dere house.
Putting the country talk aside (of which I am guilty of as much as anyone) does all that actually happen now?
I got a phone call the other day and it was some kind of poll and they asked me all kinds of questions and religion and if I went to church "regulary, or just sometimes..." was part of them and so was how I felt about same sex marriage and who I was going to vote for. I answered all of them. I hope that it isn't used against me now because you can probably guess how I came down on all them except for the fact that I do go to church every sunday.
I also heard on cspan that they give talking points out on republican websites for people to debate with. It just gives me the jivvies thinking that maybe my preacher gets some of his lesson ideas from republican websites. It just seems that the whole united states is screwed up right now with these crazies of the right wing party and it is spilling over into everything and everywhere we go.
These questions are very intrusive. Somebody tries to ask me that, I tell them take a hike, bye.
Well at different times in my adult life I have worked for the Roman Catholics, the Episcopalians, the Presbyterians, the Methodists, the Baptists, and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) as well as for the New Mexico Conference of Churches and various other ecumenical groups and the Y.W.C.A. and a brief stint in a Christian bookstore run by charismatic ordained ministers. In the course of that experience I have attended church in many different denominations and, because we have moved around so much, have had many different pastors of my own.
I have NEVER, in all that time, had any one of those ministers, clergy, priests, pastors, or church representatives presume to say who they were voting for, much less who I should vote for. I don't think the problem is so sinister as the anti-religious types would have you believe.
you know... i was raised in a christian home, but we didn't go to church everyday or even every month. i no longer practice that religion, but i support a person's right to do so.
but what i really don't like is the way that it's being used by this administration and some individuals as a measuring stick of another person's values, "american-ness" and patriotism.
and most of all, i find it pretty disgraceful that it's being used as a campaign tool.
i wouldn't like it any better if they did that with the practice i follow, either.
Don't tread writes:
Quote:but what i really don't like is the way that it's being used by this administration and some individuals as a measuring stick of another person's values, "american-ness" and patriotism.
and most of all, i find it pretty disgraceful that it's being used as a campaign tool.
I agree 100%. I don't know why you Democrats haven't been leaning on your leaders to get them to stop doing that.
Isn't Fox a total gas? LOL
Foxfyre wrote:Don't tread writes:
Quote:but what i really don't like is the way that it's being used by this administration and some individuals as a measuring stick of another person's values, "american-ness" and patriotism.
and most of all, i find it pretty disgraceful that it's being used as a campaign tool.
I agree 100%. I don't know why you Democrats haven't been leaning on your leaders to get them to stop doing that.
uhh, cause i'm not a democrat??
but i sure wish you'd talk to the christian coalition. they really are annoying.
yep, c.i.. he shorrre is... <sigh>
