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THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 09:41 am
US Constitution, Article III, Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

What's "adhering to their enemies?"

www.m-w.com
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Main Entry: ad·here
Pronunciation: ad-'hir, &d-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ad·hered; ad·her·ing
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French adhérer, from Latin adhaerEre, from ad- + haerEre to stick
intransitive senses
1 : to give support or maintain loyalty
2 obsolete : ACCORD 3
3 : to hold fast or stick by or as if by gluing, suction, grasping, or fusing
4 : to bind oneself to observance
transitive senses : to cause to stick fast
synonym see STICK


Well, I thought I should ask.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 09:48 am
Ican
Is that your underhanded way of inferring that dissent is treason? Fascism shows it's full face.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:12 am
"Lest we forget ............. "

The following are excerpts from the text of a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi, a London-based newspaper, in August, 1996. The fatwa is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places." [my emphasis is added]
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The regime is fully responsible for what had been incurred by the country and the nation; however the occupying American enemy is the principle and the main cause of the situation . Therefore efforts should be concentrated on destroying, fighting and killing the enemy until, by the Grace of Allah, it is completely defeated. The time will come -by the Permission of Allah- when you'll perform your decisive role so that the word of Allah will be supreme and the word of the infidels (Kaferoon) will be the inferior. You will hit with iron fist against the aggressors. You'll re-establish the normal course and give the people their rights and carry out your truly Islamic duty. Allah willing, I'll have a separate talk about these issues.

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Few days ago the news agencies had reported that the Defence Secretary of the Crusading Americans had said that "the explosion at Riyadh and Al-Khobar had taught him one lesson: that is not to withdraw when attacked by coward terrorists".

We say to the Defence Secretary that his talk can induce a grieving mother to laughter! and shows the fears that had enshrined you all. Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took place on 1983 AD (1403 A.H). You were turned into scattered pits and pieces at that time; 241 mainly marines solders were killed. And where was this courage of yours when two explosions made you to leave Aden in lees than twenty four hours!

But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu.

I say to Secretary of Defence: The sons of the land of the two Holy Places had come out to fight against the Russian in Afghanistan, the Serb in Bosnia-Herzegovina and today they are fighting in Chechenia and -by the Permission of Allah- they have been made victorious over your partner, the Russians. By the command of Allah, they are also fighting in Tajakistan.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:22 am
http://www.electoral-vote.com/images/bulge.jpg

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Bush's Bulge
Salon reports on the latest Internet rumor surrounding an image of President Bush in the first debate which "shows a large solid object between Bush's shoulder blades as he leans over the lectern and faces moderator Jim Lehrer."

"Was the bulge under his well-tailored jacket a hidden receiver, picking up transmissions from someone offstage feeding the president answers through a hidden earpiece? Did the device explain why the normally ramrod-straight president seemed hunched over during much of the debate?"

The Votemaster isolated a similar image: "I obtained a copy of the debate video and the Red Hawk image intensification software (developed for NASA), which combines multiple images into a sharper image and then had the contrast enhanced with Photoshop. Other than cropping and resizing of the image, no other manipulation was done. I stand 100% behind the fact that this image was taken from the debate video, independently confirming the Salon.com photo, but interpretation is up to you."
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Not to mention an emergency backup shoe phone.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:39 am
au1929 wrote:
Ican
Is that your underhanded way of inferring that dissent is treason? Fascism shows it's full face.


Fascism, Nazisism, Shintoism, and Communism share one common trate. They attempted to gain their ends by falsifying the true motives of those who would stop them.

No, dissent is not treason, but I think falsification of our government's actual purpose, actual accomplishments, and actual blunders is treason!

My quote from the Constitution is my uperhanded way of implying that kind of falsification is "adhering to [our] enemies, giving them aid and comfort" and is therefore treason. The excerpts I posted from Osama's 1996 fatwa is my blatant attempt to remind those who need reminding who our enemy is, and some of the penalties of fleeing from that enemy.

Thanks for asking!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:40 am
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:49 am
Ican
I think you need add one more Ism to Fascism, Nazisism, and Shintoism, Bushism Twisted Evil
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:54 am
Gelisgesti
I saw that during the debate and took it for granted it was a back brace. Never thought of a hidden mike. I doubt it was based upon Mr. Bush's poor performance.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 10:59 am
John Kerry has a plan.
John Kerry cannot tell us what that plan is until John Kerry sees what the situation is after he is inaugurated.
Ok, I guess. John Kerry's plan is to develop his plan after he sees what the situation is after he is inaugurated.

John Kerry says he will do a better job than is being done by George Bush. How does John Kerry know this?

What is it about John Kerry's track record in the Senate and his campaign speeches that even suggests he will do a better job solving the problem that George Bush is trying to solve than George Bush is doing now?

What is it about John Kerry's track record in the Senate and his campaign speeches that even suggests John Kerry is capable of ever understanding the problem George Bush is trying to solve?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 11:05 am
au1929 wrote:
Ican
I think you need add one more Ism to Fascism, Nazisism, and Shintoism, Bushism Twisted Evil


No need for a new term. In that statement you are simply adopting the falsification tactics of your predecessors.

By the way, why did you leave out Communism from that list of mine?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 11:05 am
au1929 wrote:
Gelisgesti
I saw that during the debate and took it for granted it was a back brace. Never thought of a hidden mike. I doubt it was based upon Mr. Bush's poor performance.


Try watching the debate again with the thought of a mic .... in particular notice his timing when he started with the 'uh uh uh uh' routine. I'm not saying he was wired but .......
Still, I feel he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 11:14 am
Gelisgesti wrote:
...Try watching the debate again with the thought of a mic ....


Looks like the back of a bullet proof vest to me. Shocked
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 12:13 pm
John Kerry says he will get the extra revenue he requires to eliminate the deficit, finance his improvements to entitlements, and finance his improvements for fighting the Iraqi war, from increasing taxes on the top 1% of earners making more than $200,000 per year, while reducing tax on those earning less.

For simplicity of calculation, let's assume there are 100 million actual income tax payers. 1% of those folks is 1 million. Let's raise the tax rate on those 1 million buggers from 35% to 40%, but don't reduce the tax rate on the rest. Assume the average annual income of those 1 million buggers is one million dollars.

So total increased income tax revenue per year =

.01 x 100,000,000 x $1,000,000 x .05 = $10,000,000,000 = $50 billion. Hmmmm. It's no where near enough.

Tell you what, let's imagine someone gives those 1 million buggers a raise, and assume their average income is not one million bucks per year, but is 100 million bucks per year.

With that assumption, total increased income tax revenue per year = 5 trillion dollars.

Subtract the current deficit of about $400 billion and we would have a $4.6 trillion surplus to pay for John Kerry's improvement in entitlements and improvement in fighting the Iraqi war.

That will more than cover what John Kerry is advocating.

But wait. Does the average income of the top 1% = $100 million per year? I seriously doubt it is as much as $10 million; that's much less than $100 million. If it's only $10 million then the surplus will be equal $500 billion increased revenue less $400 billion to eliminate the deficit = $100 billion.

That too is no where near enough to finance what Kerry advocates ..........

Oh well, so much for this John Kerry fairy tale.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 12:34 pm
ican711nm wrote:
Gelisgesti wrote:
...Try watching the debate again with the thought of a mic ....


Looks like the back of a bullet proof vest to me. Shocked


okay. you made me think with that one. so, i went back and pulled the image and zoomed the back area.

it could be a vest. but, it doesn't look like it goes high enough up his back. and the bulge, which i thought may be the over the shoulder of the vest doesn't look like it goes all the way up and over the shoulder to connect with the front of the vest.

but still, you may be right. it could be a vest.

but the more i looked at it and thought back to my years working in pro broadcast audio and video, it really does look to me to be the right size for a newer model "body pack" receiver for in ear com.

now, it would be non-standard ( as opposed to uncommon) to place the body pack on the back of the "talent" where the bulge appaears. but with the advent of "reality" television, we were forced to come up with new and creative ways of "wiring the talent" to remove the "evidence" of broadcast equipment.

additionally, when i looked closely, above the "bulge", there appears to be first, a small cable and then a smaller bulge that looks to me like the 3-4" coil that is found in most of the cables for this kind earpiece.

the cable then continues, uncoiled, directly above the smaller bulge of the coil up to the collar of the suit.

now, where the "under the suit" area of the cable seems to terminate, at the collar, it does appear that a short length of clear, thin cable tracks up along of the neck, where, if it is in fact a wireless unit, the cable would then be placed over the top of the ear where it would terminate in a small, clear plastic "ear bud". if a small eraser sized piece were used, it would be virtually invisible to anyone standing more than a few feet away. to notice it from a distance, you would have to be paying attention and know what you were looking for.

so yeah, in my opinion, it could be a wireless in ear foldback monitor.

or, it could be a bp vest.

frankly neither one of these things would surprise me
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 12:41 pm
It suggests Georgie is a puppet with others pulling his wires- which is where I came in about two years ago, into this and similar discussions.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 02:28 pm
Kerry should insist that Bush be frisked before the next debate. Or better still insist that the dummy who helped him at the first debate help him on the next. :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 02:41 pm
Hmmm, full moon tonight? If not, then Bush must have done really good in the debate for the conspiracy theorists to be out in full force already.

Au made me grin though. That doesn't happen all that often. Smile
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 02:45 pm
Good is a relative term. For Bush to put two coherent sentences together is good.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 02:52 pm
Two words, au, two words.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 03:01 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
okay. you made me think with that one. so, i went back and pulled the image and zoomed the back area.


Many, but not all, bullet proof vests protect only the chest of the individual on the assumption that the perp will shoot the intended victim in the chest not in the back.

However, y'all could be correct about a radio receiver attached to the wiree's back. Such a receiver could then easily re-broadcast what it receives to an electronic receiver chip imbedded in the wiree's skull behind his ear. That in turn could aurally communicate what is received to the wiree's eardrum, or perhaps through an appropriate transducer, communicate directly to the wiree's auditory nerve (I forgot what that's actually called).

Alternatively, both Bush and Kerry in these debates are very high tech holigrams written, staged, and directed by higher tech holigrams which are themselves still higher tech holigrams. Ultimately, the whole system of holigram generators is controlled by beings from either a higher set of dimensions or from outerspace who developed the system to drive humans into a catatonic state of paranoia.

On the otherhand, it could merely be a brace for a sore back. Smile
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