Gels, Occupation may cause terrorism, but Bush is ready to bring democracy to the ME, and that will take military force and occupation - like in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Quote: 10. Public Support for Iraq War Collapsing Majority of...
Public Support for Iraq War Collapsing
Majority of Americans want to Bring Some Troops Home
Zogby international found that in late February the percentage of Americans who felt that the Iraq War was worth the cost plummeted by 20 percent. Is this because of the further $83 billion Bush requested for Iraq? If so, the support is likely to fall a good deal further, since this thing is not getting any cheaper.
Question: Do you think the war in Iraq is worth its costs?
Feb. 25-27
Worth it 39%
Not worth it 54%
Feb. 14-17
Worth it 52%
Not worth it 46%
Moreover, a majority of Americans now believes that the US should begin withdrawing troops from Iraq, according to a Marist College Institute poll of last week. This poll confirms the Zogby finding that a majority now says that the war was not worth it. A majority of Americans now also questions whether Iraq will be a "stable democracy" any time soon.
This poll also shows that Americans know very well that neither Iran nor Syria constitutes a threat to the US. Interestingly, more Americans think Iraq still poses a threat to the US than think Iran does (10 percent versus 8 percent). Interestingly, the perception of a threat from Syria has fallen to almost nothing from 12 percent two years ago. You have to wonder if the revelations about Iraq's lack of WMD and of the ramshackle state of its government and military have taught us all a lesson about seeing threats realistically. (David Wurmser will be upset at this attitude toward Syria, since he's been trying to get up a US war against Damascus).
Revel, just found your question ..... Answer is... as you can see from the above I dont think it will matter .... America wakes up
Quote:BAGHDAD, Iraq --The Multi-National Force-Iraq announced March 8 that its subordinate command, the Multi-National Corps-Iraq has assembled a team, led by Brig. Gen. Peter Vangjel, to conduct a follow-on investigation into the circumstances surrounding the March 4 incident during which US Forces fired on a vehicle approaching a coalition check point on airport road in Baghdad. Italian journalist Guiliana Sgrena was wounded and Italian security specialist Nicola Calipari was killed during the incident. The follow-on investigation to the Multi-National Division-Baghdad commander's initial inquiry into the incident is expected to take approximately three to four weeks to complete. The command is working closely with the US Embassy and Italian officials have been invited to participate.
The members of the Multi-National Force-Iraq extend their deepest sympathies to the family of Nicola Calipari who was killed in the incident.
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While all speak about this 'Italian incident', no-one really remared that a Bulgarian soldier was killed by by US troops as well:
Quote:BAGHDAD, Iraq - Multi-National Forces - Iraq regrets the death of Jr. Sgt. Gardi Gardev from Bulgaria. Officials from 1st Corps Support Command are investigating the incident. More details will be provided when they are available.
MNF-I values greatly our partnership with Bulgaria in helping the Iraqis achieve democracy. We are committed to working with our Bulgarian partners to determine the cause of Jr. Sgt. Gardi's death.
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Gel, I am not sure it will matter to the administration if the majority of Americans want the US to pull out given they are planing to build so many military bases (I think?) and that big embassy building. But I find it nice to 'hear.'
Walter, I read about that this morning too. At the very least it seems that something should be done to improve the check point system.
ITALY DIDN'T PLAN SAFE ESCAPE FOR HOSTAGE
This could prove embarrassing to the Italians.
Since this kepts being posted, I can so too:
the Italian government is lying.
Bush Vows to Hold Course on Promoting Democracy
By DAVID STOUT
Published: March 8, 2005
WASHINGTON, March 8 - President Bush said today that the United States would stay on the offensive, both militarily and diplomatically, to combat terrorism and promote freedom around the world, and he continued to press Syria to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
ITALY MAY END RANSOM DEALS
Maybe they figured it out.
What are they lying about Walt?
Well, because 'they' said different today in their parliament.
Seems to me he is stating what he has been told before the facts have come in. That's generally a bad idea for a politician, don't you think?
Quote:Seems to me he is stating what he has been told before the facts have come in. That's generally a bad idea for a politician, don't you think?
You should CC this to Bush and Rumsfeld. They could use the tip.
Cycloptichorn
You mean the Washington 'facts'?
McGentrix wrote:Seems to me he is stating what he has been told before the facts have come in. That's generally a bad idea for a politician, don't you think?
The Washington Times article was published earlier - so how do you come to the above idea?
Cycloptichorn wrote:Quote:Seems to me he is stating what he has been told before the facts have come in. That's generally a bad idea for a politician, don't you think?
You should CC this to Bush and Rumsfeld. They could use the tip.
Cycloptichorn
Well, to quote my good friend Frank... "Bush owns you!!!"
For you that asked for it ... some good news for a change........
Quote:On February 25, The Marist College Institute for Public Opinion poll reports:
Bring them home: A majority of Americans think the U.S. should withdraw at least some troops from Iraq.
Question Wording: What do you think the United States should do about its number of troops in Iraq: send more, keep the same number, withdraw some, or withdraw all troops from Iraq?
Americans
February 2005
Send More 12%
Keep Same Number 24%
Withdraw Some 23%
Withdraw All Troops 33%
Unsure 8%
Second thoughts? A majority of Americans think the war in Iraq is not worth it.
Question Wording: All in all, do you think the war in Iraq is worth it or not?
Americans
February 2005
Worth It 43%
Not worth It 53%
Unsure 4%
A long road to democracy ahead: Americans are not optimistic about the realization of a stable democracy in Iraq in the near future. Only about one in three Americans believe a stable democracy in Iraq will emerge in the next two years.
Question Wording: Two years from now, do you think it is very likely, likely, not very likely, or not likely at all that Iraq will be a stable democracy?
Americans
February 2005
Very Likely 6%
Likely 28%
Not Very Likely 39%
Not Likely at All 22%
Unsure 5%
Americans see other imminent threats in the world: Many Americans see North Korea as the biggest foreign threat facing the United States.
Question Wording: Which one of the following do you see as the biggest foreign threat facing the United States today?
Americans
February 2005
North Korea 43%
Al Qaeda 24%
Iraq 10%
Iran 8%
Syria 2%
November 2004
North Korea 22%
Al Qaeda 43%
Iraq 11%
Iran 9%
Syria 1%
May 2003
North Korea 38%
Al Qaeda 22%
Iraq 9%
Iran n.a.
Syria 12%
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