THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

Gelisgesti wrote:

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I ask again: What do you hope to accomplish by denying the vile acts of these murderers anyway?

Again acccusations without substance, accuse me of defending the vile acts.
Please quote me accurately .... no inferences, direct statements
When did I and what did I say? What were the 'vile acts' I defended?
What do you base your accusations on?

I did quote you accurately in my last post.

[size=18][b]YOU[/b][/size] wrote:

The insurgents, aka Iraqis, don't 'punish those who refuse to help them'

Every literate person with access to a newspaper in the last year knows that's straight BS, your dance not withstanding.

Meanwhile, Bin Ladin released a new tape telling the insurgents to listen to the murderous bastard Zarqawi and to treat ALL voters as infidels.

Your position is as untenable as it is foolish and I'm bored with whatever game you think you are playing.
Good night.

AU, I don't care for the reference anymore than I would if you called it a holocaust. The comparison takes away from the horror that was the Killing Fields.

Bill wrote

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AU, I don't care for the reference anymore than I would if you called it a holocaust. The comparison takes away from the horror that was the Killing Fields.

Suppose I tell you I don't give a fiddlers f*** what you care for. Will that put your objection to rest?

AU, I don't care for the reference anymore than I would if you called it a holocaust. The comparison takes away from the horror that was the Killing Fields.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

AU, I don't care for the reference anymore than I would if you called it a holocaust. The comparison takes away from the horror that was the Killing Fields.

Calling an intense fire a holocaust does not detract from the Holocaust.

Calling a place where people are killed a killing field does not detract from the Killing Fields. The phrase is hardly unique.

Then again, arguing nomenclature with a pedant wastes your time and annoys the pedant.

DrewDad wrote:

Then again, arguing nomenclature with a pedant wastes your time and annoys the pedant.

Very clever. Is that yours?

Anyway, I have little doubt that his use of killing field was a reference to the Killing Fields... would that make my objection valid... in your opinion?

revel wrote:

Do I think all this relevant to whether we pull out after the elections regardless of how it turns out? Before Bin Laden got in the picture because of the colossal screw-up of the whole Iraq war and its aftermath, I would have said yes, we should get out and let the Iraqi's work it out on their own.

Now we can't.

Oh, yes we can.

Perhaps you mean, we shouldn't....but even that, I suggest, is wrong.

We should pull out immediately.

Unfortunately...I think we will stick around and cause lots more trouble...get lots more people killed and maimed...and spend lots more money that could better be used elsewhere.

And then we will pull out.


As the guy in the television commercial might say: BRILLIANT!

Saying, "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those that harbor them," is one thing ... "Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every nation that supports them," is not evidence of a "nexus" between Saddam and al Qaeda.

9-11CR = www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States Report, i.e., The 9-11 Commission Report, 8/21/2004, alleged the following:
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5. The al Qaeda are a confederation of multiple terrorist groups led by Osama bin Laden.
6. Osama bin Laden aided a group of Islamic extremists encamped in northern Iraq.
7. The Al Qaeda encamped in northern Iraq, suffered major defeats by Kurdish Forces in the late 1990s.
8. In 2001, the Al Qaeda remnant in northern Iraq, with Osama bin Laden’s help, re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam (AaI).
9. There is zero evidence that the Kurd’s attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
10. There is zero evidence that Saddam’s regime attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
11. There is zero evidence that the US attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq before 2003.
12. There is zero evidence that Saddam Hussein requested the Kurds to attack the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
13. There is zero evidence that Saddam Hussein requested the US to attack the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
14. There is zero evidence that Saddam Hussein was intolerant of the encampment of the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.

GTF = General Tommy Franks in "American Soldier," 7/1/2004, alleged the following:
1. In 2003, the US attacked and defeated the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.