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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 25 Sep, 2015 06:35 am
@coldjoint,
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if you wish to see America disappear,


Its you and your uninformed (and unformed) opinions everybody wants to disappear.

How'd you like your one month suspension?

bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 25 Sep, 2015 06:37 am
@hawkeye10,
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I have no information on the assertion of either that I am not smart


So you don't read your posts either. Your inability to write in simple coherent sentences (of which the above is a prime example) is shown over and over and over.

About 25% percent of your above "sentence" is accurate and a simple and correct sentence, "I have no information...." You admit it, you have no information, just more Hawkeye show.
snood
 
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Fri 25 Sep, 2015 06:42 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Quote:
I have no information on the assertion of either that I am not smart


So you don't read your posts, either.


Mwahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!
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Lash
 
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Sat 26 Sep, 2015 06:46 pm
Orange is the new black? It looks like perjury.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/emails-hillary-clinton-petraeus-discovered-contradicting-sworn-statement/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 27 Sep, 2015 12:42 pm
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The Clinton camp’s assertion that Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills signed paperwork key to Clinton aide Huma Abedin’s 2012 change from a full-time role to a “special government employee” could clarify why the Democratic presidential candidate and former secretary of state told an interviewer earlier this month that she was “not directly involved” in converting Abedin’s role to a senior adviser and expert….” [Source: Politico]

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2015/09/27/secretary-hillary-clinton-did-not-sign-the-form-it-was-her-chief-of-staff-source-politico/

Typical Hillary, dodging responsibility for her actions. She either knew and approved this action or her staff under her direction was completely fucked up, either way the buck stops with Hillery. Which she will deny till the cows come home.
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 27 Sep, 2015 01:35 pm
@Lash,
It does indeed look like perjury strictly defined. However Hillarey is very adept at putting responsibility for such actions on the shoulders of others who work directly for her and at her direction. Thus when her chief of staff signs somewhat fradulent letters and forms arranging for Huma Abedein's simultaneous employment by the State Department and a subcontractor for the Clinton Foundation working on her campaign, the reponsibility is magically not hers. In the case of the missing e mails the fault is assigned to her lawyers who she said were directed to do a thorough search and disclosure. (Never mind that these are the same lawyers working on her defense from potential Federal charges.

I know of no corporation or no military organization (at least until lately) that uses such concepts of responsibility. The CEO is responsible to the Board (and the Law) for the company's performance and the Captain for his ship -- whether he or she took the actions in question directly or not: responsibility is inseperable from authority. Sadly this does not appear lately to apply to politicians generally, and few are more proficient at evading responsibility than the Clintons . I suspect this and other issues like it are at the heart of the unease among voters we are seeing in both Democrat and Republican primaries lately.

Now Hillary complains on Meet the Press, in a rare interview with reporters, that the furor on the e-mail matter is a "drip, drip, drip continuing media conspiracy". That's another entry in the "When we left the White House we were dead broke" book of Hillary whoppers. In this case the drip, drip, drip is the continuing flow of evidence emerging from the State Department, Intelligence agencies and the FBI contradicting her own assertions on the matter.

None of this alters the importance of Hillary the candidate to the interests of major elements of the Democrat Party, or the dilemmas they face in both defending her (while they can) and readying an alternative to her.

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snood
 
  5  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 11:30 am
Kevin McCarthy lets GOP’s Benghazi mask slip: It’s all about derailing Hillary Clinton

The man set to take the job as the top Republican in the House just made a crucial admission about the true nature of the wild goose-chase known as the House Select Committee on Benghazi — its aim is to take down Hillary Clinton.

While the revelation may come as no surprise, its source should. Outgoing House Speaker John Boehner recently warned his party of “false prophets” and after Fox News’ Sean Hannity worried he’d been wrongly labeled as such, he somehow elicited a confession from Boehner’s would-be successor that is heresy to right-wing orthodoxy on Benghazi.


http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/kevin_mccarthy_lets_gops_benghazi_mask_slip_its_all_about_derailing_hillary/
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 12:24 pm
@snood,
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It’s all about derailing Hillary Clinton

So?
snood
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 12:34 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
It’s all about derailing Hillary Clinton

So?


So, nothing. Nothing to scum like you.

Nothing except it's another example of who the real liars are. They lied about their motives for changing voting ID laws - they said it was to save the integrity of elections, then got caught saying it was to make sure Republicans got elected. They (the right) lie habitually, consistently, unashamedly. They have no relationship with the truth, and they are always accusing the left of lying. I don't think anyone can morally reconcile being a proponent of the rightwing; conservatives - Republicans. The only people who make sense defending them are the 1% (and their reasons for defending them aren't moral, just fiscal) - everyone else is a ******* blinded fool.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 12:49 pm
@snood,
Quote:
So, nothing. Nothing to scum like you.


Why am I scum? Who do you think you are? What a putz.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/rofl1.gif
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 12:54 pm
@snood,
Quote:
are the 1%


The 1% made more money with Obama than any other percentage. But of course you knew that.
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 01:19 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

So, nothing. Nothing to scum like you.

Nothing except it's another example of who the real liars are. They lied about their motives for changing voting ID laws - they said it was to save the integrity of elections, then got caught saying it was to make sure Republicans got elected. They (the right) lie habitually, consistently, unashamedly. They have no relationship with the truth, and they are always accusing the left of lying. I don't think anyone can morally reconcile being a proponent of the rightwing; conservatives - Republicans. The only people who make sense defending them are the 1% (and their reasons for defending them aren't moral, just fiscal) - everyone else is a ******* blinded fool.


Snood, evidently you don't notice your own rather liberal use of broad, sweeping perjorative statements here. Moreover you appear to fail completely in noting the two-sided nature of some of these issues. If Repblican interest in getting voter ID requirements to appoximately what is required to get a driver's license or cash a check (doesn't sound unreasonable to me) is so clearly seen by you as motivated to prevent those who would otherwise cast illegal votes for Democrats, then why do you believe Democrat opposition to it is motivated by anything other than a desire to get those votes ???

Above you in, effect, assert that Republicans (or conservartives, your choice) always lie about everything. OK. Please indicate just how often you believe Liberals or Democrats lie to attain their objectives. Think about "If you like your current plan, you can keep it ...." ; or Susan Rice's bland asertions that the Bengazi atack was a reaction to an obscure movie as opposed to the al Quaeda attach our intelligence agencies had already confirmed it to be and Hillary's repetition of that lie days later when the bodies of the dead were returned to this country (all this just weeks before the Presidential election). How about the repeated lies and deceptions by the IRS and State Departments in response to multiple FOIA requests and the indignant responses of several Federal Judges to them. Were these lies??

You appear to be very quick to call others "scum" or liars, or make sweeping accusations without any factual basis, and relatively slow to think about anything beyond your own very evident prejudices.
roger
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 04:03 pm
@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

snood wrote:

Moreover you appear to fail completely in noting the two-sided nature of some of these issues. If Repblican interest in getting voter ID requirements to appoximately what is required to get a driver's license or cash a check (doesn't sound unreasonable to me) is so clearly seen by you as motivated to prevent those who would otherwise cast illegal votes for Democrats, then why do you believe Democrat opposition to it is motivated by anything other than a desire to get those votes ???


Sounds like a fair question to me.
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snood
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 06:28 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Kevin McCarthy lets GOP’s Benghazi mask slip: It’s all about derailing Hillary Clinton

The man set to take the job as the top Republican in the House just made a crucial admission about the true nature of the wild goose-chase known as the House Select Committee on Benghazi — its aim is to take down Hillary Clinton.

While the revelation may come as no surprise, its source should. Outgoing House Speaker John Boehner recently warned his party of “false prophets” and after Fox News’ Sean Hannity worried he’d been wrongly labeled as such, he somehow elicited a confession from Boehner’s would-be successor that is heresy to right-wing orthodoxy on Benghazi.


http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/kevin_mccarthy_lets_gops_benghazi_mask_slip_its_all_about_derailing_hillary/


Five hundred and one days and counting. That's how long this "Senate Select Committee on Benghazi" has gone on. That's longer than the investigating committees on JFK's assassination, longer than the committee on Watergate, longer than the committee to investigate the actions following Hurricane Katrina, longer than the investigation into 9/11. And this "Select Committee" convened AFTER an independent investigation and EIGHT additional congressional committees had found NO WRONGDOING on the part of Hillary Clinton and her State Department. Four and a half million dollars of our taxpayer money later, they get CAUGHT saying it wasn't a noble search for truth after all (duh), but a putrid using of the deaths of four Americans working in Benghazi to put a stop to the candidacy of the woman they FEAR.

I'm not going to get into the slop to debate about FALSELY equivalent crap the Democrats do - because that's what all that is - crap. The Republicans - the conservatives - the rightwing, confederate flag waving, right to choose and marriage equality trampling, race-baiting, voting rights act resisting, lowdown lying scum - have claimed the undisputed lying prize.
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revelette2
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 06:33 pm
While I agree with those say the Benghazi and the Hillary email thing is motivated by nothing put dirty politics. I'm still hoping she will stand down from running. For reasons I have stated and now for a new reason. It turns out in 2008 the Hillary camp was the source of the "Obama is a Muslim" rumors. I remember the absolutely disgusting way the Clinton ran her last campaign in 2008 and I am not sure running for presidency is a justifiable excuse for it like some claim.
snood
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 06:35 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

While I agree with those say the Benghazi and the Hillary email thing is motivated by nothing put dirty politics. I'm still hoping she will stand down from running. For reasons I have stated and now for a new reason. It turns out in 2008 the Hillary camp was the source of the "Obama is a Muslim" rumors. I remember the absolutely disgusting way the Clinton ran her last campaign in 2008 and I am not sure running for presidency is a justifiable excuse for it like some claim.

Would appreciate a link to proof her campaign was the source of those rumors. That's quite a big thing to say without sourcing it. Not saying it's not true, just saying it's big enough to want some foundation for it.
revelette2
 
  1  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 06:43 pm
@snood,
The Obama Muslim Myth: The Clinton connection

Hillary Clinton Campaign Spread Obama Muslim Rumors, Says Former Aide Reggie Love
engineer
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 06:49 pm
@revelette2,
That Clinton loyalists were spreading the rumors is well known. Some of these people went the PUMA route rather than support Obama. That the Clinton campaign was not involved has likewise been shown repeatedly.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2015 07:03 pm
@revelette2,
The first link says no link to Clinton. The second link offers a rumour and no evidence.
 

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