When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

poor frank gifford died without kathie lee ever giving up her candy ass (it was, according to tapes released, the main reason he strayed from the marital bed), i wonder if this was the same with bill, and will things be rectified (snicker) before he checks out

oh wait, her CANDIDACY

my bad

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@djjd62,

One of the big reasons blacks liked Clinton so much before he fucked them over was that he gives off this sexual vibe that resonates with blacks, full of soul and without guilt. The man likes sex probably as much as Trump does. Hillary seems the opposite to me.

But from the looks of it the Clinton era is about over, I dont think we need to worry that Bill is going to be First Man.

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@hawkeye10,

I've heard suggestions, possibly unfounded, that this investigation is Obama's kiss of death for Hillary. Certainly the present administration has consistently kept very close control of its very obedient hacks in our Justice Department, and so far no investigations of any kind that might be politically disadvantageous to our annointed President have occurred, in some cases, such as the IRS, even in the face of very compelling evidence of malfesance by officials. Joe Klein and other professional commentators and information peddlers has rather clearly suggested there is no love lost between Obama and the Clintons.

In any event Hillary's prospects appear to be fading at an accelerating pace. Capitulation will be signalled when the Democrat Establishment joins the chorus for Joe Biden, or possibly some other candidate. I won't be sorrry to see it happen.

It is certainly an unusual election process, and the public increasingly appears to be repelled by professional politicians and eager for something new ... even a superannuated socialist from Vermont left over from the '60s & '70s (although that is professionsl enough).
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@georgeob1,

The thing I dont get is that the Justice department has been looking at her for over a year, and decided to not do anything even though they documented over $10,000 a fraud for her maternity leave, so what changed?

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that this investigation is Obama's kiss of death for Hillary

Maybe Obama feels burned by Hillary, she promised that she had her **** together finally and would make him proud, and then she fell completely apart right at the beginning of the trail?

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and the public increasingly appears to be repelled by professional politicians

Sanders is beating Hillary, on the R side Trump, Carson and Fiorina are getting massive play, mostly polling better than any of the pro's...Wow, even me who for years has been almost a lone wolf talking about how pissed off the little people are finds this surprising. Even I who have been talking about the incompetence of the elite am shocked that the moneymen went all in on both Hillary and Bush, two very weak politicians, over 6 months before the first votes are cast. Damn, did these idiots never hear of the concept of a test drive? This coming after the elite caused Great Recession that almost no one thinks the elite fixed the causes of, and after sinking a few trillion dollars into foreign military excursions that weakened us seems to be the perfect storm re the little people giving up on the elite.

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@bobsal u1553115,

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/09/what-hillary-clintons-emails-really-reveal.html#

NYmag with another take on the emails. As always, an interesting read.

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This is some of the best accidental PR Hillary Clinton has ever had, showing us — rather than awkwardly telling us — that, to borrow a well-worn electoral metric, she’s someone we might very much like to drink unhealthily with (preferably in Punta Cana). No, that beer-sharing quality shouldn’t be a measure of political viability, but Hillary — who’s rarely managed more than “likable enough” — knows better than anyone that it is.

This is not to suggest smooth sailing ahead for Clinton. The correspondence is rife with redactions, fertile blanks in which nefarious scenarios hatch and thrive. Even the non-redacted ones contain mysteries. The gefilte fish thing has been solved (there was an actual foreign-policy crisis involving carp!), and emails about meet-ups with “Santa” — perhaps a Clinton fat-cat flying around the globe on a private vehicle, distributing freebies and currying favor with impressionable boys and girls? — turn out to indicate appointments with her Chappaqua hairdresser Santa Nikkels. However, I remain personally transfixed by why Clinton’s childhood friend Betsy Ebeling might have passed along to Hillary a profile of Keith Richards under the heading “for your mom…” Dorothy Rodham: Who knew?

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When I see "articles" like the one above retrieved from NYMag, I can't help but to think this is the result of one of Hillary's well-paid political fixers, her "bimbo control" spinner, who's job it is to try to positively spin her negatives. Remembering her husband's political campaigns, you have to laugh about how much campaign money Clintons spend on these types of people. DC spinners and lie-crafters have to throw parties when a Clinton announces a candidacy.

The busiest guy on the planet right now - the guy who came up with that spin. So good try. But obviously the email imbroglio will never be a positive for her.

Better luck with why she's anti-environment; why she's for raping union workers; how she can understand the struggles of regular people sitting under that $600. haircut; why she deserves black votes when she's in deep with the private, for-profit prison system. She is practically a co-author of institutional racism. VOTE HILLARY!

So, waiting for positive versions of all that. Smile

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@Lash,

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she’s someone we might very much like to drink unhealthily with (preferably in Punta Cana).

Clinton? I think not.

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So, waiting for positive versions of all that.

Diversions are where it's at. Isn't Hillary crying for her mama in front of the cameras these days ( and at her age Shocked

)as Hillary 12.3....the warm and cuddly policy wonk? I think I noticed that.

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@hawkeye10,

That was NOT my quote.

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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/2/29361/2779867-06145861_532_1449894a.jpg

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@Lash,

I know. Everyone knows.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank!

Still refusing to deal with reality I see......

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@ehBeth,

I missed that one. I think the damage isn't the emails but Hillary Clinton's inability to get in front of them. It looks like she's stonewalling.

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Clinton's lead over Sanders shrinks as her edge over GOP vanishes

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton's lead in the race for the Democratic nomination has fallen to just 10 points, and at the same time, her advantage in hypothetical general election matchups against the top Republican contenders has vanished, a new CNN/ORC poll has found.

The new poll finds Clinton with 37% support among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, down 10 points since August, followed by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders at 27% and Vice President Joe Biden at 20%. Sanders' support is about the same as it was in August, making Biden the only candidate to post significant gains in the last month. His support is up 6 points in the last month as he weighs making a run for the presidency.
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The shift away from the former secretary of state stems from shrinking support among women. Clinton's advantage among women has disappeared in matchups against Bush and Carson. Facing Trump, Clinton still carries women by a large, though tighter, margin. In August, 60% of women favored Clinton to 37% for Trump, but that's narrowed slightly to 55% Clinton, 41% Trump now. Clinton's advantage among women against Trump is fueled by independent women, despite that group shifting away from Clinton in the head-to-head against Bush.

The poll suggests Republican women have consolidated their support around their party's front-runners in the last month, and are now more apt to back both Bush and Trump than they were a month ago. At the same time, the near-universal support for Clinton among Democratic women has softened slightly, bringing it more in-line with her support among Democratic men.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-poll-women/

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@bobsal u1553115,

I really think I may have "spoken" without really fleshing out what I meant or even knew what I was talking about.

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

I missed that one. I think the damage isn't the emails but Hillary Clinton's inability to get in front of them. It looks like she's stonewalling.

You know, her style is such that she always has to make every statement sound to rehearsed and lawyer-proofed. It doesn't even mean that she's doing anything wrong, but the way she presents it makes you suspicious. Pity, really.

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@snood,

True enough. However, sometimes ambitious, arrogant deceitful people given to lies and easy rationalizations of their bad behavior come across to others rather consistently as ambitious, arrogant deceitful people given to lies and easy rationalizations of their bad behavior. This has been a fairly consistent problem for Hillary since she launched her health care program in the first term of Bill's presidency.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

Frank!

Still refusing to deal with reality I see......

Me???

I am fine dealing with anything.

But listening to you and Lash just brought to mind Hannibal Lecter...

...so I thought I'd give him a bit of screen time.

Please continue the vicious rants...and do not mind me.

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The really sad direction that appears to be inherent in these sort of political discussions about the Presidential race (particularly case of Hillary and her candidacy) is the discussion becomes more about personality as opposed to issues and policies. All of these people have some sort of flawed characters or some inexperience either domestically or internationally.

The fact that this all becomes a witch hunt, or a beauty contest or an examination of personality cults is more obfuscation and a further insult to the intelligence of American citizenry.

This is a very crucial time internationally as well as domestically, yet very little discussion and light is being shed on what differentiates this person and distinguishes her for the office of the Presidency. There's a slippery slope being outlined with regards to USA becoming a second-rate world power with transparently poor choices for their leadership position.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

True enough. However, sometimes ambitious, arrogant deceitful people given to lies and easy rationalizations of their bad behavior come across to others rather consistently as ambitious, arrogant deceitful people given to lies and easy rationalizations of their bad behavior. This has been a fairly consistent problem for Hillary since she launched her health care program in the first term of Bill's presidency.

Whoa, that's a lot of pejorative adjectives. I know of one lie she told that hurt her in my eyes - the thing about 'taking sniper fire' in Bosnia (I think). What other lies has she told that make you characterize her as "given to lies"?

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@Ragman,

Ragman wrote:

The really sad direction inherent in these sort of political discussions about the Presidential race (particularly case of Hillary and her candidacy) as the discussion becomes more about personality as opposed to issues and policies.

This is a very crucial time internationally as well as domestically, yet very little discussion and light is being cast on what differentiates this person and distinguishes her for the office of the Presidency. There's a slippery slope being outlined with regards to USA becoming a second-rate world power.

I agree. I always hear people complain about the candidates themselves not arguing the issues. I'd like to see more of us arguing where our preferred candidates stand on things.

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