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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 08:31 am
@DrewDad,
It may be an error. But it is an error which has no precedent I'm aware of there and as I said, the subject is one I have never seen addressed before at NRO and it is a deeply subversive message for them as conservatives and as a key representative of the conservative media. So I doubt it.
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Blickers
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 08:53 am
@oralloy,
Nine investigations about Benghazi puts the matter to rest. All investigations started with much hoopla, all ended with a big dud, the biggest dud led by Trey "Hit Man" Gowdy, who could only end up by saying, errrr.... judge for yourself, ('cuz this report got nothin' on her).

As for the "silent" mother, mind your own business. When I grew up it was understood in many families, Christian families, that the man did the talking to people outside the family on business and other matters. This was normal both in the larger American society and in the largely Italian and Greek immigrant neighborhood I grew up in where half my classmates didn't speak English in the home. It's only in the sixties and seventies that the social norm of the man doing the speaking for the family began to be questioned and began to change. And there are many religious Christians who hold to that behavior today.

Are you criticizing the Khans for exhibiting behavior that conservative Christians routinely exhibit? How attitudes change when the conservative word is put out to put the social media "hit" on people-criticizing them for behavior that conservatives do themselves. Such hypocrisy on the Right.

woiyo
 
  -2  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 01:13 pm
@Blickers,
Hillary continues to call the families of the deceased liars when she in fact told them the cause of their deaths was the video. Yet, you ignore her lies to the families of the deceased. You ignore Hillarys lies when she said the FBI director otherwise regarding the e-mails.

You are only lying to yourself when you support Hillary.
DrewDad
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 01:52 pm
@woiyo,
woiyo wrote:

Hillary continues to call the families of the deceased liars when she in fact told them the cause of their deaths was the video.

Can you please provide a link (preferably one with a transcript) where Hillary Clinton blames the attack on the video? Oddly enough, I can't find one.

Thanks!


Baldimo
 
  -2  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:01 pm
@DrewDad,
I guess you haven't seen the video from the Memorial...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes
DrewDad
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:03 pm
@Baldimo,
Is it the same as this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/secretary-of-state-hillary-clintons-remarks-at-transfer-of-remains-ceremony-for-americans-killed-in-libya-transcript/2012/09/14/54fc64c0-fea2-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_story.html

In particular, this line?

Quote:
This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.

Baldimo
 
  -1  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:07 pm
@DrewDad,
Yep. Why mention the video at all? The people laying there dead had nothing to do with the video. The State Dept even went as far as spending $70,000 in Pakistan talking about the stupid video. This was about a week after the attack in Benghazi.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/20/13992235-us-spends-70000-on-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite
DrewDad
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:11 pm
@Baldimo,
I'm kinda still looking for where she blames the Benghazi compound attack on the video, though.

Do you have another source?
giujohn
 
  -2  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:12 pm
@DrewDad,
The video is of her at the memorial speaking saying that the cause of the attack was an internet video... She tells the relatives that it was an internet video... What more could you possibly want?
Baldimo
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:15 pm
@giujohn,
Don't forget Susan Rice doing the rounds of the talk shows, spreading the same lie so people wouldn't know the truth.
DrewDad
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:22 pm
@Baldimo,
Susan Rice isn't a candidate for President, though.

Is there evidence that Hillary instructed Susan Rice to lie?
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:30 pm
@DrewDad,
Who did she work for at the time she went on the Sunday talk shows? It sure as hell wasn't the VA.
Blickers
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:37 pm
@Baldimo,
How many freaking times are you going to try to rewrite history with Benghazi? Is it every goddamn page in this thread? Nine investigations found Hillary was not responsible. Yet you come back to this time after time. Nine friggin' investigations.

Know what? You don't know crap about Benghazi compared to all the people investigating it.
DrewDad
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 02:38 pm
@Baldimo,
It's been determined that Susan Rice got her info from the CIA, not from Clinton.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cia-talking-points-for-susan-rice-called-benghazi-attack-spontaneously-inspired-by-protests/

Quote:
The CIA's talking points read as follows:

"The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US diplomatic post in Benghazi and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.

This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.

The investigation is on-going, and the US Government is working with Libyan authorities to bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of US citizens."


So let's not deflect onto Susan Rice.



Still, if you have a transcript or something where Clinton blames the Benghazi attack on the video, I'd love to see it! Hell, I know nine different investigations in Washington that are interested!
RABEL222
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 03:19 pm
@DrewDad,
All Baldy has is what he always has. His opinion, which no one has the right to contradict. He has, like the Pope, infallibility. Oh by the way he also lies quite a bit.
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georgeob1
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 04:19 pm
@DrewDad,
I'm unaware of such evidence. However there is indeed anecdotal evidence suggesting the administration was indeed trying to put a good face on the attack which occurred on the anniversary of 9/11 and just weeks before the forthcoming Presidential election and after the president declared al Queda virtually defeated and the remainging terrorists the "JV team". Not hard to imagine the motivation there.

Impossible to know inner motives for sure. However we do know Hillary wrote both her daughter and separately the Egyptian Foreign Minister within two days of the attack saying that the video had nothing to do with it, and that it was likely a well planned al Quaeda operation. I recall several days afterwards seeing the TV clip of her address to the families & friends of those killed upon the return of the bodies at Dover AFB, and assuring them all that (paraphrase) 'the Administration will get and punish those who created the awful video that caused this tragic event'. My opinion is that Hillary would have been the obvious choice for the Sunday talk shows immediately after the attack, but, mindful of her own aspirations, was reluctant to touch it, and so the job went to the ambitious Obama loyalist Susan Rice.
blatham
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 04:56 pm
Sheesh. More Benghazi? After how many investigations? Nine, is it?

This isn't about Benghazi at all. We do see that, most of us, don't we? No more than Whitewater was really about Whitewater or Obama's birth certificate about his birth certificate or John Kerry's behavior in Viet Nam was about that.

It's about a narrative, trying to foster a particular story or interpretation of events that will or might do damage to a candidate. This is just a propaganda function designed to cast doubt, to forward negative notions. Folks on the right, lots of 'em, will continue as above out of some magical hope that the narratives are true and that citizens just need to understand they are true and then all will be well (meaning the candidate will fall).

I do not for the life of me understand why anyone bothers with this stuff. It's totally fine to run investigations but when there's been 9 or so and dudes and dudettes on the right continue crying "injustice", "corruption", etc then one might conclude that there's something else going on besides an attempt to get at the truth. I mean, for the love of god.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 04:58 pm
@blatham,
That's because there's no cure for stupid.
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revelette2
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 05:05 pm
@blatham,
I agree completely, enough with Benghazi. How many diplomats were attacked on Bush's watch and we democrats didn't go on about it forever and a day. Republicans bring up distractions because seemingly they have nothing else.
Blickers
 
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Thu 4 Aug, 2016 05:23 pm
@revelette2,
Quote revellette:
Quote:
Republicans bring up distractions because seemingly they have nothing else.

Their candidate is screwing up bad, he falls behind more every day. Benghazi's all they got, except for Vince Foster-on YouTube some of them still haven't given up on that.
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