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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
Blickers
 
  2  
Fri 8 Jul, 2016 07:15 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote georgeob1:
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Some questions deserve answers: some don't. Blatham's didn't, because he he has been so evasive in addressing his own hypocrisy.

Hah! And some questions don't get answered because the inquirer hit the nail on the head. Blatham asked you, since you were cheering the FBI's investigation to that point, if Comey ended up not recommending pursuing an indictment if you would stand by that finding. You evaded. And now Comey does not recommend indictment, and boom!-you're hollering "Fix!".

You're predictable.

oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 8 Jul, 2016 07:52 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Say how's that Email request to Bush 43 coming along to find out about the canning of all those US attorneys? 2007, I believe it was. "In 2009, it was announced that as many as 22 million emails may have been lost."

I am not aware of anyone in the Bush Administration recklessly and negligently placing large numbers of classified emails (and even a few top secret emails) on an unsecure server that the Chinese government could easily hack.
Lash
 
  1  
Fri 8 Jul, 2016 08:53 pm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57800f6be4b0c590f7e967f7I'm

Thank goodness Hillary is riding in to save the day for black Americans, since Obama sucked so bad at it.

Wonder how he failed so badly at evening the playing field for minorities when that was supposedly a primary focus of his administration?

Because the black community didn't pony up with enough money? Monsanto had enough. So did the Clintons.

In corrupt DC, you don't play if you don't pay.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2016 09:02 pm
@Lash,
Wrong. Unemployment for blacks have been reduced under Obama vs previous presidents. They are based on comparisons to whites. The ratios were higher under previous presidents.

http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2013/12/Unemployment-rates.jpg
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2016 09:19 pm
If someone could please remind me which FOIA request was ignored and who submitted the request? I could go back over the last year of yammering, but if anybody knows off the top of their head I would be very grateful.

Federal employees receive a great deal of email every day. During one 24 hour period you may receive FOUO email reminding you that someone is retiring and what time to show up for a piece of cake and goodbye. If major clean up is scheduled you get email letting you know. Same thing with the Bon drive and CWF charity drive, they show up in your email. The Secretary also receives a ton of email that might be considered 'for official use only' or 'confidential' but they seldom have to wade thru all of that. They usually have a staff that culls and prioritizes the email to free up the executive and make sure their time is well spent.

I don't even know why I bother to explain how things are done in D.C., everybody else is a self appointed expert and are worried that too much understanding of how the culture works would ruin the notion of uptopia they think will occur if only St. Reagan comes back to lead us.
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Blickers
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2016 09:42 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
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I am not aware of anyone in the Bush Administration recklessly and negligently placing large numbers of classified emails (and even a few top secret emails) on an unsecure server that the Chinese government could easily hack.
Not so easily, there's no evidence anyone hacked it. By the way, the State Department server has been hacked, along with just about every government's server out there.

Bush's Administration, however, lost 22 Million Emails. To quote again:
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According to the AP, soon-to-be-heroic technicians have uncovered 22 million email messages from the George W. Bush administration—far more than the Bush White House said they'd lost in the first place.

That's a lot of emails—but not as much data as you might first think. Berkeley estimated in 2003 the average email size to be around 18,500 bytes. That's about 379 gigabytes of lost email, give or take a few Powerpoints attachments with slides missing in the "Find a reason to invade Iraq" section.

http://gizmodo.com/5426338/re-re-re-re-re-re-re-iraq-22-million-lost-bush-white-house-emails-recovered

Nobody knows where those Emails went-it could have been to Russia, China, anywhere. 22 Million government Emails missing under Bush. If Emails were people, Bush's Administration just completely lost the third largest state in the nation. And you're getting on Hillary? You Republicans ought to be ashamed of yourselves. But you never are.
oralloy
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2016 10:22 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
You only listened to half of his testimony then. He said some of them were marked classified in error and two of them were marked so confusedly, an expert would have had hard time telling if they were classified or not.

So if 2 of the 110 classified email exchanges were marked confusingly, does that make it OK to be be reckless and negligent with the other 108 classified email exchanges?

Does it make it OK to be reckless and negligent with the top secret email exchanges?
oralloy
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2016 10:23 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Not so easily,

The Chinese government would have found it trivially easy.


Blickers wrote:
there's no evidence anyone hacked it.

There is no way to know either way. That is why classified and top secret emails were not supposed to be on the server.


Blickers wrote:
By the way, the State Department server has been hacked, along with just about every government's server out there.

Does that make it OK for Hillary to be reckless and negligent with classified and top secret emails?


Blickers wrote:
If Emails were people, Bush's Administration just completely lost the third largest state in the nation. And you're getting on Hillary?

I know you are trying to defend the indefensible and your options are limited, but that's pretty silly.


Blickers wrote:
You Republicans ought to be ashamed of yourselves. But you never are.

Did someone tell you I switched parties? If so they are not a source of reliable information.
RABEL222
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 01:12 am
The republican BS is going to go, and on, and on, and on, till Hillary is elected president and than they will take a different tack. I cant wait to see if they try to impeach her on her first day as president.
snood
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 04:30 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

The republican BS is going to go, and on, and on, and on, till Hillary is elected president and than they will take a different tack. I cant wait to see if they try to impeach her on her first day as president.

Of course they'll continue. I mean, what else can they do? Try to work toward solutions for the American people?
Lash
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 06:03 am
Hillary Clinton went to greater lengths to hide her behavior from the American people than she did to hide state secrets from the Russians and Chinese.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-is-unfit-to-serve/article/2595937#.V4DmPvQxU3o.twitter

She's unfit for the presidency.
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Lash
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 06:32 am
Most Americans think Hillary should have been indicted for her crimes against them.

http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2016/most_disagree_with_decision_not_to_indict_clinton
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Lash
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 06:58 am
Clinton has been deleting and hiding emails with impunity her entire life. Comey should be fired for letting her get away with it.

She did it as First Lady.
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parados
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 07:13 am
@oralloy,
Except it wasn't 2 of 110. Perhaps you should check your facts.
revelette2
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 07:18 am
@georgeob1,
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The statement is true by virtue of its construction. Only he knows what he believes or chooses to see. I suspect he chose those words very carefully.


He was pretty clear, he straight out said he did not see enough evidence to suggest Hillary and those she corresponded with knew they were breaking the law when they did it.

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I do not see evidence that is sufficient to establish that Secretary Clinton or those with whom she was corresponding both talked about classified information on email and knew when they did it they were doing something that was against the law.


You are being insincere. Comey did not fool around and use lawyer speak. He was straight, logical and to the point and phrased his words so most reasonably intelligence people can understand what he said and what he means.
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Blickers
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 08:25 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
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The Chinese government would have found it [hacking Clinton's server] trivially easy.
And you know this how? Are you supplementing your income by giving State Dep't secrets away to Beijing?


Quote oralloy:
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There is no way to know either way [if Hillary's server was hacked].
Which is another way of saying that there is no evidence that it has.


Quote oralloy:
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Does that make it OK for Hillary to be reckless and negligent with classified and top secret emails?
She followed the rules as she understood them at the time, the last five Sec'ys of State have broken the rules. Like maporsche said, the government, for better or worse, is run by people in the 50-70 year old age group who were two decades out of school before they ever put their hands on a computer. Plan to round them up?

And since we know for a fact that the State Dep't computer system has been hacked, and we have no evidence that Hillary's guarded system was hacked, we might well have come out ahead security-wise doing things the way Hillary did.


Quote oralloy:
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Did someone tell you I switched parties [away from the Democrats]? If so they are not a source of reliable information.
With all your railing against Socialists and your embrace of the Republicans' plan to do away with Social Security and Medicare, I figure about the only way you can be a Democrat is that if you had a wealthy Democratic grandfather who left you an inheritance in the form of a large yearly stipend to you, conditional upon you still being registered as a member of the Democratic Party.






Lash
 
  0  
Sat 9 Jul, 2016 09:55 am
From those who know: of course Hillary will push for TPP after the election.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9104096.html
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 11:21 am
@Lash,
Sounds like speculation, but anything is possible with Clinton.
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Blickers
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 12:28 pm
@snood,
Quote snood:
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Of course they'll continue. I mean, what else can they [Republicans] do? Try to work toward solutions for the American people?

Good Gawd I hope not. Their "solution" for Social Security is to turn it into a means-tested welfare system. With "solutions" like that, maybe we're better off with them just going around in endless investigative circles that never lead anywhere.
snood
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2016 12:47 pm
@Blickers,
It's hard to even imagine anymore a two-party system that works for compromise.
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