When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Can't understand the support the Democrats have for the Clintons? How about the 16 Million Full Time jobs that were created under Bill's watch? How's that for starters?

Don't even talk about blacks and crime and that fantasy "betrayal" by the Clintons you're trying to cook up. Under Bill's watch the murder rate-which was climbing before Bill took office-went DOWN to the point where 18,000 black lives were saved by the end of his term. But you don't care about that, do you? You have your anti-Clinton talking point, and you are going to stick to it. You don't care that 18,000 black people are now walking around alive who would have been killed if things were kept the way they were at all. In fact, when I posted the pre-Clinton rise in black murder victims and the sharp decline in black murder victims, you called it the stupidest thing you ever saw. Well, here's the chart again, Lash, even if you don't like it.
Before Clinton:
1987......8,998
1988......9,956
1989.....10,566
1990.....11,487
1991.....12,227
1992.....11,777

Bill Clinton Takes Office
1993.....12,433
1994.....11,854
1995.....10,442
1996......9,473
1997......8,841
1998......7,933
1999......7,139
2000.....7,425
Under the rate of Bush I's last year, 94,216 blacks would have been murdered from 1993-2000. Instead, under Clinton 75,540 blacks were murdered. By the end of Bill Clinton's two terms, black murder victims had declined 37% per year from the year before he took office. Bill Clinton being president saved over 18,000 black lives overall.

By all means Lash, tell us all how this is inconsequential and stupid.

Jesus ******* Christ.

How many times do you post that same, tired bullshit?

I should have left you on ignore. Don't waste space addressing me again. I won't see it.

You keep posting slanted garbage, I keep posting facts to clear the air.
I don't care if you reply or not.

What the Banks wanted for their $20,000,000 in "speakers fees" over the last three years. And Hillary is a woman of her word and she delivers this banker bomb in Saturday's debate:

Pretty ******* accurate. Fortunately the ratio is 20:1 against Wall Street.

Hillary supporters seem to be made up those who conflate Bill and Hillary, those who think the GOP choices toooo conservative this time, and those who believe she'll magically swing left in the General Election.

For god's sake. Even though that video is obviously edited, it's clear that the title of the video is inaccurate and is so on purpose. Why would you post such drivel?

We'll just have to disagree on this one. I have serious problem with Hillary's positions, though I am glad the primaries have caused her to moderate her positions on TPP, Keysone, mandatory minimum sentencing, for example.

I think the email problem isn't hers. Its the law and while some excoriate her over the issue, no one has offered up changes to the law allowing outside servers. And they never bring up Dick Cheney's missing 6 or so million missing emails.

I also think without doubt she was one of the most effective SoCs in our history. I believe her handling of Benghazi was extremely effective. The death toll could have been so much worse. If there's a blame (and I think there is), its Congress gutting the requested funds for security for US diplomatic missions abroad.

I will be voting for her and actively supporting her if she takes the nod at the Convention.

My biggest concern with her personally is her character attacks on Bernie Sanders and the attitude that it was her time and the primary is a just a formality.

The further left Bernie causes her to evolve, the even happier I will be on Jan 20 when either of them are sworn in on Jan 20, 2017.

Here's the quote in context:


Here is the exact quote IN context.

"Now, who's exactly to blame for the housing crisis? Well, that's always a question that the press and people ask and I think there's plenty of blame to go around.

Responsibility belongs to mortgage lenders and brokers, who irresponsibly lowered underwriting standards, pushed risky mortgages, and hid the details in the fine print.

Responsibility belongs to the Administration and to regulators, who failed to provide adequate oversight, and who failed to respond to the chorus of reports that millions of families were being taken advantage of.

Responsibility belongs to the rating agencies, who woefully underestimated the risks involved in mortgage securities.


And certainly borrowers share responsibility as well. Homebuyers who paid extra fees to avoid documenting their income should have known they were getting in over their heads. Speculators who were busy buying two, three, four houses to sell for a quick buck don't deserve our sympathy.

But finally, responsibility also belongs to Wall Street, which not only enabled but often encouraged reckless mortgage lending. Mortgage lenders didn't have balance sheets big enough to write millions of loans on their own. So Wall Street originated and packaged the loans that common sense warned might very well have ended in collapse and foreclosure. Some people might say Wall Street only helped to distribute risk. I believe Wall Street shifted risk away from people who knew what was going on onto the people who did not.

Wall Street may not have created the foreclosure crisis, but Wall Street certainly had a hand in making it worse.
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Do you disagree with any of this? To me everything here is pretty damn spot on, even the part about individual homeowners. Of course they share *some* of the blame.

I agree, it kind of like credit cards, very tempting when you are in a store but sooner or later you have to pay the piper and it is usually way higher than if you just bought it outright or realize your own limits. As well, some credit cards charge way too much interest so like the housing crises, plenty of blame to go around.

The internet explosion and Republican legislation created those jobs. Should we thank Clinton for NAFTA?

No, that's the same line of nonsense that the Republicans were trying to float back when Bill was president. Nobody believed it even back then, let alone now. But you do see it surface now and then when you come across a conservative who needs to hug his security blanket.

of those 16 million jobs, how many did Clinton actually create?

Lets see, there were the lawyers he had to hire, the dry cleaner that he should have used for the blue dress, anything else? Which of those jobs is Clinton directly responsible for?

You still get your rocks off over that blue dress don't you? It's been over 16 years and you can still play it in your head as if it was the night you lost your virginity, player. Of course, that's merely my opinion.

I put him on IGNORE. He's not worth the time. He believes he's the smartest thing on this planet, and learns everything from Google.

Yeah, but he never has a real opinion, He just repeats sound bites as if he actually created them, then chuckles because he thinks he sounds smart. All I know is that I'm happy Bill Clinton didn't need to channel his machismo into going to war, like some assholes. Fifteen years and counting, our young people being sacrificed to satisfy the bloodlust of war criminals.

Bill Clinton was instrumental in bringing about peace in Northern Ireland. That makes him the best postwar president in my opinion. He's definitely the most popular living one over here

Here too, and it drives the republicans crazy.

A lot of Republicans would vote for eight more Bill Clinton years. I would, too. Best years financially of my life. But his FISA courts abuse, the beginning of blanket electronic surveillance of citizens, three strike laws, mandatory minimum sentences, the rise of privately run prisons, the gutting of banking regulations .... I would pay better attention to those issues.