@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Fine with me if you're offended by my use of "Christianist", george. By that term, I mean something different from "Christian". To specify, I mean to refer to those who regard other faiths as improper and illegitimate expressions of faith - particularly where there is a political component to this stance. Let's add Muslimists and Hinduists, etc, to this category. Christian dominionism is a blatant manifestation of such a mindset.
Apparently then you would find them less offensive if there were no distinct denominations .... if there was only one variant. Unfortumately religious freedom is a founding and fundamental element of our culture and our basic law. People have different tastes and preferences in many things ..... religion is not the only such preference. Would you apply this to politics as well? (or music ??) Democrats & Republicans both generally believe their political preferences are better than the alternatives. The 20th century provided us with some vivid examples of the tyranny that can result from the suppression of such differences.
I'm a Christian, but about as far as one can get from Evangelical. Still, I don't see them as attempting to force their views and beliefs on others - rather they seek to limit the enforcement of Secularist (I couldn't resist that) views and practices on themselves. What's wrong with that?
blatham wrote:
The often repeated claim that "America is a Christian nation" is another (where exclusion of other faith communities or relegation of them to some junior status is implied/entailed).
It is simply a fact that America was indeed founded as a largely Christian nation, but one that took firm steps to ensure religious freedom for all. (Though the he practice of religion has declined substantially over the past two generations here and in Europe.) Perhaps you don't like the facts of our origins and history and wish to suppress any recitation of them. Why does it disturb you? You have your own beliefs (or lack of them) about such matters. Do you wish everyone to believe as you do? History has demonstrated that is a very dangerous mindset. It seems to me that you are very generous with yourself in affirming your own exclusionist beliefs while expressing strong intolerance for those of others. Do you believe that is rational or even reasonable?
blatham wrote:
I have no use at all for members of any sect of any faith who speak/think this way and I do think they are quite mad to presume they have some magical insider knowledge of the mind of god
But you yourself presume to have some magical insider knowledge of their minds ! I find it remarkable you are so unaware of your own rather stark hypocrisy here. Moreover I detect a very strong streak of intolerance in your expressed views. Not very civil at all. What exactly do you mean by "have no use at all for..."? Do you believe they should be forced to adopt views and behavior more like your own? Do you believe they should be restrained in exercising their political rights to influence the behavior of our government?
I think you indulge far too much in vague abstractions and the futile effort to explain the necessary folly of anyone who disagrees with you.
It's a very big and complex world out there, one that has defied the attempts of many to codify its workings. Moreover, it has been changing continuously over recorded history. Loosen up and enjoy the variety.