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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
Lash
 
  2  
Mon 8 Feb, 2016 08:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
About time. People get the impression she's above the law...

Meanwhile, in famous Watergate-investigative-journalist land, ...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/hillary-not-truthful-abou_b_9185412.html

excerpt--

Carl Bernstein, of Watergate fame and Hillary biographer, commented on CNN that the White House is "horrified that Clinton is blowing up her own campaign." He said they can't believe she took the money and didn't see the ethical problems that would dog her.

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This may be the flame out predicted by George lo, so long ago... Wink

It is not credible for her to argue that she took the money because she wasn't sure she was going to run for president or that she was "dead broke." She and Bill hauled in $139 million from 2007 to 2014.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 8 Feb, 2016 08:48 pm
@Lash,
Fact Check on Hillary's email account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qot5RRGlOI0
Lash
 
  2  
Mon 8 Feb, 2016 08:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hey, CI. I don't know that guy, and I don't believe what he said.

I haven't slammed the door shut on this issue, but I'm getting persuasive information from reputable sources that HRC is under investigation. Guess we're waiting now.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 09:08 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I believe you know all that, and this is just a strangely self-righteous atempt at bullying.

No, george. It is again an attempt to get you to adopt the most fundamental element of careful scholarship - citations validating claims.


This isn't an academic journal, and even there it is considered bad form and pretentious to cite references for well known and easily confirmed facts. Perhaps you didn't know that.

A bit earlier you claimed that the Governor of Michigan was one of the sleaziest humans on earth and offered a story about a birthday cake as proof. Was that up to your scholarly standards?
glitterbag
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 09:37 pm
@georgeob1,
Hang on a minute george, didn't the image of Marie Antoinette pop up when you saw the picture of the cake? That's the first thing I thought of. But I don't think the gov is sleazy because he is tone deaf about spending money on his wife, I think he's sleazy for allowing the entire city of Flint to be poisoned by officials who work for the State,
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blatham
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 09:41 pm
You guys know I lived down south in the US of A for a decade. Some of that time, in a small town in northern Texas. Country folk. Country ways. Bedrock Americana. For instance, out there if a farmer worker gets caught having sex with an animal, it is a dire embarrassment, for sure. Probably some shunning.

But, if that animal is the same gender as that farm dude behind it, then he's dragged behind a truck.
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Blickers
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 10:06 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
And it is just as (un)reasonable to blame Mr. Obama for the crisis as it is to blame Mr. Snyder.


Obama didn't decide to push aside Flint's elected government and put into power a leader who switched the city from a non-polluted water source to a polluted source. Snyder did. Therefore, it is on Snyder.
oralloy
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 10:18 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Obama didn't decide to push aside Flint's elected government and put into power a leader who switched the city from a non-polluted water source to a polluted source. Snyder did. Therefore, it is on Snyder.

The fact that Mr. Snyder was responsible enough to rescue Flint from Liberal mismanagement (while Mr. Obama twiddled his thumbs and did nothing to help Flint get back on their feet) does not in any way make Mr. Snyder responsible for the water crisis.

And let's get our facts straight. It was a choice between polluted water and no water at all. I suppose you would have preferred that the citizens of Flint go without water for a year?
glitterbag
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 11:12 pm
@oralloy,
It wasn't a choice between polluted water and no water. It was a decision by State officials to save money at the expense of the tax-payers of Flint. This is a Michigan screw/cock-up, and we all know how incensed people get about the federal government dictating to the States, Snyder put on blinders, disasters that happen in the State, caused by the State, should be repaired by the State.

It's too big of a disaster now, only the Federal Government can fix this bankrupt State. People in Flint can't drink the water and can't even shower in the water. Their homes are worthless, The State of Michigan says it will take 15 years to repair the damage, I don't think the people can wait. That's why I think the Federal Government has to take action, because the State officials have completely failed the citizens.
Blickers
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 11:28 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
And let's get our facts straight. It was a choice between polluted water and no water at all. I suppose you would have preferred that the citizens of Flint go without water for a year?

Yes, let's get our facts straight-it was not a choice of Flint River water or no water. Detroit ended the contract with Flint, it didn't say it was going to cut off the water, only that the old contract would not apply. Under Snyder's appointee, Flint made the decision to save money and stop buying water from Detroit and go to the Flint River. The deal saved $5 Million. If Flint wanted to pay the money, they would have kept drinking Detroit water until the new Lake Huron project was finished.
oralloy
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 11:47 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Yes, let's get our facts straight-it was not a choice of Flint River water or no water. Detroit ended the contract with Flint, it didn't say it was going to cut off the water, only that the old contract would not apply.

The water rates were already unaffordable. That's why Flint was trying to build their own pipeline. Raising the rates even higher yet was effectively the same as not providing the water at all.


Blickers wrote:
Under Snyder's appointee, Flint made the decision to save money and stop buying water from Detroit and go to the Flint River.

You can't buy what you can't pay for.


Blickers wrote:
The deal saved $5 Million. If Flint wanted to pay the money, they would have kept drinking Detroit water until the new Lake Huron project was finished.

That's money Flint didn't have.
Blickers
 
  4  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 12:47 am
@oralloy,
That's your spin on events, not the facts. Sure Flint was in financial trouble, but it is inaccurate and deceptive to say that Detroit cut the water off. And $5 Million is a small part of Flint's budget. You are posting untruths to support your political side.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 01:52 am
@Blickers,
Detroit was charging outrageous rates for the water already, and when they learned that Flint was a year from bypassing them and getting their own water, Detroit ended their contract to supply water at even those outrageous rates.

That's a fact whether the Left finds it convenient or not.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 02:03 am
Fighting to impose Clintonian verbiage on the news media, and quite impressively the FBI, the Clintons have been able to control an aspect of the public narrative about the investigation of Hollary Clinton.

Because they are benefactors of a Clinton-aligned media, they have been able to press the quizzical narrative that the server is being investigated...leaving normal people to wonder what the server will look like frog-marched wearing a Tomato colored pantsuit. Their ability to control the language around the investigation has given Clinton partisans one last desperate thread to cling to in their long ridiculous struggle to deny that they support one of the most corrupt people in American political history.

The server is innocent.

Hillary is guilty.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 02:49 am
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/08/politics/david-axelrod-hillary-clinton-campaign/index.html

Hillary's campaign sifts through staff to find their problem,. Axel rod suggests a look in the mirror.

Ah, napalm.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 9 Feb, 2016 05:22 am
@glitterbag,
We know what their priorities are:

Michigan Is Too Busy Trying to Outlaw Anal Sex to Address Toxic Flint Water

Seeing as Flint is an issue in the primary, and that today Hillary rightly said that what is happening there is immoral, thought I'd post this piece illustrating precisely what repuke morals and values look like.


Who has time for water that cannot pass a quality test when you can legislate the love that dare not speak its name?

The Michigan Senate recently passed a bill that outlawed sodomy, traditionally defined in legalese as either oral or anal sex. If the bill passes the Michigan House, sodomy could be punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

The ban was attached to an anti-bestiality bill, part of a package of bills called "Logan's Law" the state Senate is looking to pass to protect pets from abusive owners. By adding the words "with mankind" to a clause outlawing bestiality it not only outlawed sodomy and bestiality, but equated the two.

Michigan joins about a dozen other states that have sodomy bans on their books, even though the Supreme Court declared them unconstitutional in a 6-3 vote in the 2003 Supreme Court case Lawrence v. Texas. That case started with the 1998 arrest of two gay men who were having consensual sex in their private apartment; the case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court.

<snip>

http://mic.com/articles/134600/michigan-is-too-busy-trying-to-outlaw-anal-sex-to-address-toxic-flint-water#.jfr2euTqP
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 9 Feb, 2016 05:24 am
PRESS RELEASE Sanders Campaign Statement on Clinton Falsehoods



MANCHESTER, N.H. – Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, issued the following statement in response to false claims by the Clinton campaign:

“It is very disturbing that, as the Clinton campaign struggles through Iowa and New Hampshire, they have become increasingly negative and dishonest. No, Bernie Sanders will not dismantle health care programs in America. He believes in health care for all. No, Bernie Sanders is not ‘attacking’ Planned Parenthood. He believes Planned Parenthood is an outstanding organization and wants to increase its funding. No, Bernie Sanders is not ‘protecting’ the gun lobby. He has a D- record from the NRA.

“Today’s attack from Secretary Clinton, whose super PAC received $15 million from Wall Street, is even more absurd. Bernie Sanders, who has never accepted corporate PAC money in his life, is now accused by Secretary Clinton of taking ‘about $200,000 from Wall Street firms.’ How do they reach that false and absurd conclusion? They assume that every nickel Bernie Sanders received from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee for his Senate campaign came from Wall Street. That is obviously preposterous.

“Bernie appreciates the help he has gotten from the DSCC, whose funds come from millions of Americans’ individual contributions, labor organizations, environmental groups, women’s organizations and others. To say that every nickel that Bernie received came from Wall Street is beyond preposterous. It is laughable and suggests the kind of disarray that the Clinton campaign finds itself in today.”

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement-on-clinton-falsehoods/

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 9 Feb, 2016 05:57 am
@cicerone imposter,
FBI Formally Confirms Its Investigation Of Hillary Clinton’s Email Server

Last edited Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: NBC NEWS

By Pete Williams

In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the world’s worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Why say this at all, since it was widely known to be true? Because in August in response to a judge’s direction, the State Department asked the FBI for information about what it was up to. Sorry, the FBI said at the time, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation.

Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBI’s general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI “has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server.”

Baker says the FBI has not, however, “publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope or potential targets of any such proceedings.”

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server


Pressure On Lynch To Step Aside In Clinton Email Probe

By Julian Hattem - 02/08/16 06:00 AM EST
Loretta Lynch is on the edge of the spotlight, about to be dragged to the center.

If the FBI finds sufficient evidence to launch a criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton or one of her top aides for mishandling classified information, Lynch’s Justice Department will have to decide whether to press ahead.


Even if no evidence of wrongdoing is found, Clinton’s many critics are unlikely to take the word of an appointee of President Obama’s and will doubt that justice has been served.

Already, top Republicans are calling for a special prosecutor to be brought in and evaluate the situation.

No. 2 Senate Republican John Cornyn (Texas) took to the floor of the Senate last week to call for a special counsel to be appointed “because of the conflict of interest by asking Attorney General Lynch to investigate and perhaps even prosecute somebody in the Obama administration.”

MORE...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/268456-pressure-on-lynch-to-step-aside-in-clinton-email-probe
revelette2
 
  2  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 07:04 am
@bobsal u1553115,
In other words, there is nothing new here. As has already been reported, law enforcement officials who were briefed on the investigation have already said Hillary is not the target.

Quote:
Law enforcement officials have said that Mrs. Clinton, who is seeking the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, is not a target of the investigation.


source

Baker only said they were working on matters related to Hillary's Clinton's use of a private email server.

In your zeal for Sander's you playing into republicans hands and seem to be agreeing with them. Personally I think everyone should wait for the conclusion of the FBI investigation.
woiyo
 
  0  
Tue 9 Feb, 2016 08:23 am
@revelette2,
Regardless of the investigation do you expect THIS Justice Dept to prosecute?
 

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