When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Let's at least speak clearly. I'm not asking you to be certain about anything but what's documented as fact by several reputable news sources.

Let's at least speak clearly. I'm not asking you to be certain about anything but what's documented as fact by several reputable news sources.

Nobody asked you to make a decision about who you'll vote for, but you neglect your duty as an informed citizen to pretend you don't know her publicized views and when they switched.

Why don't you settle down, stop attempting to hyperbolize my straightforward comments, and speak plainly - without the backhanded baseless insinuations.

Things are in flux. It's ok. Nobody's trying to pin you down. If you feel pressure to decide, it's coming from somewhere besides me.

Different opinions aren't weird. Wild, baseless accusations are.

An oil refinery for the Nazis

As a political reporter for the New Yorker in Washington in 2010, Mayer knew a bit about David Koch and saw that the Kochs were beginning to fund the libertarian Tea Party movement. She set out to find out what was going on and contacted a Koch spokesperson, who denied any connection of the businessman to the Tea Party.

Mayer then turned up at a conference the Koch group was sponsoring, and discovered that they were giving seminars to the Tea Party people on how to become effective activists.

“I realized that there was a contradiction between what the party line was from the company and what they were doing politically.

“That piqued my curiosity, and I just kept digging.”

What Mayer found was, as she describes it, just the tip of the iceberg. She’d stumbled into the astonishing network of interlocking, nonprofit groups now known as the Kochtopus. Mayer said the brothers poured money into those groups to create “huge opposition to anything that was remotely progressive in America."

“It became a subterranean network that I was unearthing.”

Then again, a governmental take-over of the American health care system is a long time goal of American liberals, as it was of Harry Truman when he addressed Congress on the issue as he advocated a single payer health care system in 1945:

Quote:

Our new Economic Bill of Rights should mean health security for all, regardless of residence, station, or race — everywhere in the United States.

We should resolve now that the health of this Nation is a national concern; that financial barriers in the way of attaining health shall be removed; that the health of all its citizens deserves the help of all the Nation.

Truman’s 1945 speech on this came three years before he won the endorsement of someone named Ronald Reagan, who gave this speech enthusiastically endorsing Truman’s “principles” on radio in 1948, wonderfully preserving on audio tape Reagan as Bernie Sanders railing against corporations and a big oil company etc., etc., etc. I guess things changed. But like Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan too once believed in a single payer health care system.