Child Custody

Suzy,
I called his cell phone, so I still don't know exactly where he is. He said he WAS going to bring Zack back yesterday, but that he started crying cause he didn't want to leave. I said yeah I bet he did. Then he says he also doesn't know what goes on at Jason's house, but he says Zack said he doesn't want to go there. He goes I have him on tape saying he doesn't want to go there. I said yeah and I bet right before you taped it, you told him to say it. He is just being so mean, because I filed the papers, and becaue I won't let him have everything he wants.

Wow, what an asshole. I am sorry your birthday was so miserable for you. I hope you get your son back soon, like today. Until you have a court order, make sure the child is never alone with Joe again. You aren't obliged to grant visits anyway. It doesn't even matter if he does pay support. My children didn't even see their father for eight years, but he paid court-ordered child support every month and took me to court a few times a year. I was fortunate that I had judges who truly did think in the best interests of my children.

Hang tough for Zack's sake.

Thank you Suzy. Yes he is quite the guy, isn't he. I won't let him see him until there is an order for visitation. This is definitely making me tougher. I used to cower to him all the time, and he knows it. He said last night I have changed so much, I said yeah it's because I am sticking up for myself and not letting anyone walk all over me. Yeah his brother Ed was telling me the worst thing i could do for myself and my case was to not let Joe see him. So gee I let him see him, and he took off with him. He won't ever be with him again untli there is a court ordered visitation agreement.

His brother doesn't know jack! Denying him visits won't hurt your case, given the circumstances.
Don't put stock in anything his family says! They still think they can mold your opinions! You are way smarter than them.

Thank you Suzy. Yeah I had checked with Family court about the visitation thing, and they said it was up to me either way, I can let him see him or not. I was just trying to be nice, and let him see him, and he turned around and tried to hurt me, because he didn't get what he wanted. he's like, we had an agreement, and set days, and you went against it. I said because you arne't home during the day all day long during the week to take care of him, and I don't want your mother raising him.
God only knows what she will tell him. She did it before with Ryan, I won't put it past her to do it to Zack.

Thank God you have a court date coming up. If my ex ever did something like that, I would have asked the courts not to grant him any visitation at all. Make sure when you get into court that you get child support from the jerk as well.

I have a court date with my ex on the 30th to get more child support and he has only seen our son once in the last 4 years.

He may be hurting you right now, but he's screwing himself for court. What he's doing right now is winning your case for you. Let him hang himself and you'll win in the end. It's so obvious that he doesn't give a rats ass about Zack's best interests.

Get that custody and ask the courts for an order preventing him from seeing your son and don't forget to get child support. If the man is vindictive enough to keep you and your child away from eachother, not letting you know where they are, you don't wan't to take any chances.

The best of luck to you.

thank you. I was reading a few of your posts yesterday, before I posted anything. I can't believe what his family did to you. I only hope that the court will see what is going on, because he will lie....... Thank you again

Yeah, I went to hell and back I can't count the times with my ex, but I got through it. Your ex may lie, but his actions right now are speaking much louder than words and any judge will see right through his lies. Obviously, he's so obsessed with hurting you, that he's too stupid to know that he's destroying any chance he would have in putting a case together for himself in court.

I just hope that they can see through his lies, because I know he will lie and do whatever he can...

I'm sure they will.

Thank you. The way things are going for me now, I am doubting it. My one girlfriend just told me a little while ago that her friend had a similar situation go on, and her ex took their daughter a week before court, and then they granted him custody because he lied and said that she was living with him. Then she said I should go to Linda's house,(his mother), and ask where they are, but I said she will end up calling the police on me, for tresspassing. I said she's that much of a Witch. Then my dad told me I should call the police in Lake George, but I said without the order, if they can't do anything here, what are they going to do there? And then who's to even say he's still in Lake George. I am just going crazy here.

It can't hurt to try Lake George police, anyway.
I would. Filing a police report will be good documentation, as well.
You must be going nuts with worry.

I'm sure the courts will see through his lies. There is no excuse for him taking your son away somewhere and not telling you where they are and worst of all, not bringing him home when he was suppose too. I would go to the mothers house anyway, and if she calls the cops, just tell the cops your story and tell them the mother and brother know where they are. The cops will not arrest you unless they come and you refuse to leave when they're there. I would go to the ends of the earth to find my son.

I agree with suzy. Do everything you can, even if you don't think they'll do anything. The more you do to find your son, the better it will look for you in court.

I went up to family court to see if there was anytihng else I could file. There isn't anything I can do right now, that would go into effect before monday, so I didn't file anything else. but the lady gave me the name and number of the law guardian that is appointed to my son. And I also didn't file the papers I should have when I filed for custody in the first place. I should have filed for the temporary custody, and I didn't know that. I thought the papers I filed would automatically give me the temp custody. So to do anything now would be foolish, but I have to be sure when I do go to court that I have a temporary order made up granting me custody. But I did go file for support, so I have an appt to go back in july. But just wanted to keep you all updated, thanks for all the support......

HE"S BACK!!!!! Steve dropped him off to me this afternoon a little before 2, and he had had him at his house for a few hours before that. HE ran right to me, and hugged me, he's been hugging me, and kissing me since he's been back here. he said he was at frammie linda's last night, and I was mad because he was there. so I know they must have said something to him about him being there, and I would be mad or something. but I am so glad he's home! Wanted to let you all know!

Wonderful!

As soon as you have your precious son settled in, take care of the paperwork!

I agree with Montana--file for child support. Joe seems to be a monumentally unreliable sort and raising children takes M-O-N-E-Y as well as love.

The judge is not going to be impressed with Joe's professed love unaccompanied by a weekly check.

I'm very glad for your happy ending. Hold your dominion.

Noddy,
I did go to file for support as well. I filled out the papers, and I have an appt to go back on the 7th.
THanks!!!!!!

Zacksmom--

Good. Support and visitation are--or should be--two separate issues, but they are both part of dealing with Joe for the next 14-odd years.

He sounds as if he's both impossible and unsavory, but he's the only father Zack has. Sometimes single parenting would be easier if the kid had been a virgin birth, but that doesn't happen often.

Good luck. Hold your dominion.

Whew! Good for you!