Mustang vs Camaro

Re: Camaro's are better than any mustang HELL NO!!!!!!
hell, ford missled everyone for years, they lied about their engine size, their horsepower, and 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Chevy never had to do that, as their cars always had more horsepower usually than quoted, always went quicker, and never had to resort to bolting a blower on the engine just to make it mildly acceptable. And how come the normal corvette convertable (heavier than the coupe) beat the supercharged cobra last year with almost 50 less horsepower? Its easy to explain: if you want to go fast and do it for less money, plus have a car worth more when you sell it, but a chevy. Simple. Chevy IS BETTER POINT STANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yeah Right
This fourm has so much Bull**** on it. Mustangs always beat the piss out of camaros and firbirds till from the 80's till 93 then camaro/firbirds took over from 93 to 99 period look it up as it now stands 99+ GT's tie with LT1's and LS1's and 99-01 Cobra drivers race but i would still give it to LS1 most of the time. Mach 1 beat LS1 most of the time but still drivers race so suck a **** ford needs a blower to keep up with chevy most F-bodys run a best of 13.2 a Mach 1 has run a best of 13.078 u can get mad all you want look at it this way 346 vs 281.......... WOW and as far as the 03/04 Cobra goes buh bye Camaro/Firdbird stock for stock 03/04 Cobras murder Camaros/Firbirds and don't bring out that bull**** about "OH the z06 beats blown cobras" well zo6=50,000+ and 03/04 Cobra 36,000 do the math I love Chevy and Ford we need to stop fighting with each other and fight the real enemy....................IMPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P:S Ford does not unrate **** 99 cobras were the only late model mustang overated and it had to get the"fix" 01 Cobras were on average Underated

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its sad how i have a lincoln mark vii with a 4.6 dohc cobra motor and i can spank a 350 iroc camaro is thre a resonable explanation for that

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http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

Doesn't look like you should be "spanking" them on paper, you're probably racing idiots who can't drive. It lists IROC's, but I don't know if they're 350's or 305's listed.

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Camaro RS
hey i'm not going for the Mustang side but listen to this...I have a 1995 Camaro RS (just a regular model) made some mods to it, switched somethings and now it's running at 527 hp...i'll admit I have just about killed every mustang out there, but there is one in particular...the 86 GT...even though they don't look that great, they sure as hell kick some ass on the track...if yall are interested in seeing me drag against the GT I got some pics on cardomain.com...check me out...Lex

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Chevy01 man has it right. Except he forgot that in 2000, the Cobra "R" had a 390 hp 5.4L engine (No boost). Also, the 04 GTO does have a 400 hp LS1. The Ford "cammer" is a 420 hp 5.0L... It's up in the air as to whether they'll put it in the new Cobra or possibly mach (other ideas have been blow 460hp 5.4L 3 Valve). the LS7 Z06 has a very nice 500 hp 7.0L motor....
The list goes on but any chevy guy who can't atleast respect a Ford can kiss my 400 SAE rwhp (10 psi twin screw blown SOHC 4.6) butt and I got there for 30k (22 for GT, 8k for blower). Let me also note that you can get an 03 Cobra up over 500 rwhp with a pulley swap and a couple of other inexpensive boltons.
And Z06Dragon's comments about the DOHC motor were the most ill informed I've ever read.

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Wanna hear something interesting? I saw a brand new 2005 Mustang Cobra on the road yesterday, and it had valid standard California plates. The thing is, Ford doesn't even advertise this car on their website, and you won't find much, if anything, about it on the web.

So, did I see a ghost? Laughing

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I don't think it's out yet, cj. Maybe it was a prototype being driven by Ford, or maybe someone just slapped some Cobra badges on it?

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Dunno, unless I totally mistook a 2004 Cobra for a 2005, but that doesn't seem likely. This definitely looked like the new version, and was clearly a Cobra.

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A Mustang owner asking a Camaro owner if he has a Van Halen cd.

Quality.

That's like Rosie O'Donnell calling Roseanne Barr fat.

Like someone from Alabama making incest jokes towards someone because they live in West Virginia.

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lets just say i havent lost a race to a mustang yet, and my
let me know when you wanna lose man, i'll make it happen for you. 305's are a joke man, if you had a 350 i'd respect you but a 305 and you've never been beat by a mustang, guess you don't get out too much huh?

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It is possible that you could have seen the prototype for the new Shelby GT500 it has the same cobra badges but it is by shelby. It was on the cover of this months motor trend. You guys really need to relax about this whole Ford vs. Chevy thing Everyone knows mustangs are the superior car.

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Yea...I was just wondering, I got myself into a mess Shocked

i'm doing a research project on Mustang vs Camaro, it was on the list, and I was absent the day everyone picked there topic, Well I am actually going to sckool after i'm done HS to a Automotive school, But I don't really know naything about the Mustang and the Camaro. Was wondering if Anyone can lay down some facts for me or give me some good website that have statistics on them. I just decided to go with the most recnt 2002 Mustang GT and 2002 Camaro Z28. I have read through these pages and the argument goes back and fourth with someone saw what actually happened to the guy who knows it can't happen. Well i'm really in a hole here. Anyone with info onhe cars up top would help me out alot! I'm not leaving for now Confused

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Project Stated Above
Here Friend,
If you have to do a report comparing the two: Mustang and Camaro, please chose the 60's models. It would make matters much easier for you, and I, myself and many others I know, would agree that they look much better than the late 90's and earlier 2000 models of today.

First thing is: the first mustang came out on April 27, 1964, declared Baby Boomer's Independence Day. More than 22,000 people bought a Mustang the FIRST DAY!
When introduced, it was available in a coupe or convertible (a fastback came 6 months later).
The Mustang is claimed the brain child of Lee Iacocca, Ford's youngest general manager in Ford's history.
The Mustang was available with as a $2,600 289 cubic incher with 271 horsepower, that ran a flat 14 second 1/4 mile at 100mph.
Other engines available were: the 390/320, the 427/390, the 428/335, the 351/290, or 429,375.
The Mustang was also boosted by Carol Shelby, who produced the rarest of all the Mustangs. The GT350 and GT500.

On the other hand,
My favorite of the two, and probably of all time is the Camaro. The Camaro came as a rebuttle to the Mustang and came roaring out of the plants with a 396 cubic inch monster in 1967.
The Camaro was available with several trim models: RS, SS, and RS/SS.
The Camaro hit its stride in 1968, when it took the racing world by storm winning 10 if its 13 races, and 8/12 races in 1969.
Famous engines include:

302/290 at 5800 rpm
327/275 at 4800 rpm
350/295 at 4800 rpm
396/325 or 375 horse power at 4800-5600 rpm
and the 402/375 at 5600 rpm

Any other information, and you can e-mail me at [email protected]

I own a '72 Challenger with a 383, trying to convert to '70 model. Any tips?

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Re: Project Stated Above

wc2008 wrote:

Here Friend,
If you have to do a report comparing the two: Mustang and Camaro, please chose the 60's models. It would make matters much easier for you, and I, myself and many others I know, would agree that they look much better than the late 90's and earlier 2000 models of today.

First thing is: the first mustang came out on April 27, 1964, declared Baby Boomer's Independence Day. More than 22,000 people bought a Mustang the FIRST DAY!
When introduced, it was available in a coupe or convertible (a fastback came 6 months later).
The Mustang is claimed the brain child of Lee Iacocca, Ford's youngest general manager in Ford's history.
The Mustang was available with as a $2,600 289 cubic incher with 271 horsepower, that ran a flat 14 second 1/4 mile at 100mph.
Other engines available were: the 390/320, the 427/390, the 428/335, the 351/290, or 429,375.
The Mustang was also boosted by Carol Shelby, who produced the rarest of all the Mustangs. The GT350 and GT500.

On the other hand,
My favorite of the two, and probably of all time is the Camaro. The Camaro came as a rebuttle to the Mustang and came roaring out of the plants with a 396 cubic inch monster in 1967.
The Camaro was available with several trim models: RS, SS, and RS/SS.
The Camaro hit its stride in 1968, when it took the racing world by storm winning 10 if its 13 races, and 8/12 races in 1969.
Famous engines include:

302/290 at 5800 rpm
327/275 at 4800 rpm
350/295 at 4800 rpm
396/325 or 375 horse power at 4800-5600 rpm
and the 402/375 at 5600 rpm

Any other information, and you can e-mail me at [email protected]

I own a '72 Challenger with a 383, trying to convert to '70 model. Any tips?

Alright, I dont know what cave you've been living in but late model Camaros and Mustangs have a pretty big following. Not only are there many more options for late model or camaro or mustang parts but the cars come loaded with features and have much more potential than the older cars. Sure the older ones are great for nostalgia but nostalgia is nothing more than recycling an old idea to make it seem more important than it actually is. Nevertheless I'd take one of the older cars as a neat side project but I'll keep my late model car for my daily driver. Car manufacturers are in the business to know and provide the look that people want.

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I don't like the look of the new Mustang because of the fairly small wheels and high sidewall tires. I'm surprised they didn't put whitewalls on it Laughing

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The first thing I'd do with a new Mustang would be to put on bigger rims and Z-rated lowside tires. The retro look is fine but not when it makes performance suffer.

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I have a 69 Camaro Coupe, 69 Mustang Coupe, and a 88 IROC Convertible. The 88 IROC is the best of the 3, but I'm working on modernizing the 69 Camaro. The 69 Camaro was originally a 6 cyl and now has a '67 327/275 with a 4 speed (hopefully will be a Richmond 6 speed at some point). It would be hard to part with either Camaro.

I like the Mustang also, but the 69 coupes (302-2V) are not real popular and as such I can't justify putting money in it. Unless it's a Fasback, Mach, Boss, or GT people are not interested. I've tried to sell it, but have to basically give it away to get anyone interested. I really like the new Mustang - the GT convertible would be my choice.

I'm not concerened with how quick my cars are, but how well they will make a 400 mile trip - that's why I want the Richmond AOD 6 speed in my 69 Camaro. Fact is that my brother's Dodge Hemi SRT TRUCK will outrun all my cars. I like the looks, the history, and the uniqueness of the older cars - the Camaro vs Mustang in the late 60s, Camaro DZ302, Yenko, Shelby (Dodge and Ford), Dodge/Plymouth with NASCAR, the HEMI, etc. Someday I'm sure the new retro mustang will be part of it as will the last year of the Camaro and hopefully the future Camaro. I can't see Chevy ignoring this market and leaving the Vette and the SSR as the choices for RWD performance.

A recommendation to the person looking for history or comaprisons would be to visit your local library. They will most likely have books on the history of the Camaro and Mustang - they are in my local library. There is more to it than 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. It's good reading for those of use who don't read books on the best seller list.

-Dan

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no 350 tpi manual cars

Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:

I know irocs came in manuals, but I thought it was only the 5.0. Thanks for correcting, I didn't know that.

I owned an 83 Trans Am 5-speed(305ci).

So you have a 5.7 manual? If so, that thing must be a blast to drive. Torquey as hell.

hate to break it to you. the 350 irocs only came in auto, chevy's manual trans the t5 got blown apart by the torque of the 350, they were only good to 300 ft lbs, and that was pushing it. if you think you have a 350 and a 5 speed then someone must have swapped it in.

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z28dragon wrote:

Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:
Don't forget the IROC 350ci only came in auto, right?

Anyone know why?

irocs didnt only come in automatic. i own a 1987 five speed iroc, brand new condition bought it for 6000$ 2500 miles on it. not to mention i was at the camaro barn the other day and there were five irocs there all 4 or five speeds, the manual tranny was an option after 86. and that was with the 5.7, not the 5.0. but it was very rare in the iroc yes.

not correct, no 350 tpi cars could be had with the 5 speed. only autos, get your info straight, before posting it.

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rustangs vs rednecks
Dang you guys are a bunch of chumps. I have owned a 86 corvette since 92' and have raced 100's of camaros and firebirds and crapstangs. I have never lost a race on the street. The car went 14.30 @96.1 bone stock. One main reason for my sucess on the street with the stock motor is it was an automatic and was super consistent. My car ran the same on and off the street - it never spun one inch. Thats 14.30 all day every day. I have seen non drivers trying to poilet 5 and 6 speed cars and spin their way to horrible times. These are car capable of running 11's and 12's i am talking about. For example a viper that went 14.8? crap driving for sure. Supercharged Cobras running 14's? Junk driving. I have even seen a guy with a built (450 dyno horsepower) lightened mustang pull off 14.2 @ 118 mph at the track (after 5 worse runs). My car totally stock would eat that on the street from light to light. But none the less now I have a 420 cubic inch Small Block in the car and it runs 11.15 @ 124.57 (can do it on the street with my tires warm) with my 315/35/17 BFG Drag radials. So the story ends. You can own a 1985 Corvette that will run 14.1 consistently with good tires and an automatic and beat almost any car on the street today. you can buy that car in decent shape these days for about $6,000. I know you could easily out handle both of those crappy platforms all day long too. So $6,000 for the car another $500 for gears and tires and your running high 13's all day everyday. And guess what there is few "drivers" that will beat you. did i mention 27 mpg on the highway? Or the prestige and pu$$y that comes with the vette?

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