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Five Reasons No Progressive Should Support Hillary Clinton

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 10 May, 2015 07:48 pm
@maxdancona,
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The idiocy of this thread is We haven't even had a ******* primary yet.

Please explain how the fact that we have not had a primary yet connects with the argument that progressives should not support her. I am a pretty smart guy but I cant make it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 06:51 am
@RABEL222,
I know. Its the most clueless I've ever been at the beginning of a silly season yet. At least Goldwater made sense.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 06:52 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 13 May, 2015 06:09 am
The Emerging Populist Agenda
The Emerging Populist Agenda
Originally published Tues May 12, 2015 by The Washington Post
Katrina vanden Heuvel



The most surprising development in our political debate isn’t the gaggle of Republican presidential contenders or the ceaseless attacks on Hillary Clinton. What is stunning is the emergence of a populist reform agenda that is driving the debate inside and outside the Democratic Party.

A range of groups and leaders are putting forward a reform agenda of increasing coherence. Today, the Roosevelt Institute will present a report by Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz, while New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is to release a “Progressive Agenda to Combat Income Inequality.” These follow the Populism 2015 Platform, released in April by an alliance of grass-roots groups and the Campaign for America’s Future. Also in April, the Center for Community Change (CCC) joined with several grass-roots allies to launch Putting Families First: Good Jobs for All.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), now contending for the Democratic presidential nomination, released his Economic Agenda for America last December. And while Hillary Clinton has chosen a slow rollout of her agenda, the Center for American Progress published the report of the Commission on Inclusive Prosperity headed by former treasury secretary Larry Summers, widely seen as a marker of where Hillary might move.

Not surprisingly, these offerings differ in analysis, emphasis and specific reforms. But more striking is their scope of consensus.

All agree that our extreme inequality is not the inevitable result of globalization or technology. It is the result of policy and power. The rules have been rigged. No one reform offers an answer; broad reforms are needed.

All link growth and inequality. As Stiglitz argues, extreme inequality cripples growth, and full employment is vital to reducing inequality.

The central elements of the emerging populist agenda include:

Please read the central elements & the rest of the article here~
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/05/12/emerging-populist-agenda
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 07:35 am
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revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 08:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
If the primary was held today, who would you vote for keeping in mind the general election comes next?

I am not 100% sure but I seem remembering reading somewhere on the emails which were passed back and fourth during the Benghazi media frenzy, a comment being made that they (Hillary and some staff member) were glad Hillary didn't go so far as poor Susan Rice did as to blame the video specifically. I would have to look it up and frankly my memory of where I read it is so hazy, not sure I would find it. In any case, there is no need to do the republicans work for them by throwing out their talking points which will end up being used against her when she wins the primary.
revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 08:30 am
If Clinton won’t level with voters now, when will she?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 11:27 pm
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The report, required of every candidate for the White House, showed the couple amassed more than $25 million in speaking fees and Hillary Clinton earned more than $5 million from her 2014 memoir, "Hard Choices."

The earnings put the couple in the top one-tenth of 1 percent of all Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/clintons-report-making-25m-speeches-since-jan-2014-230200001--election.html

I am sorry, but this is a problem. How does this person ever have any credibility trying to lecture us about the problems of the middle and working classes caused by an economic system that advantages those who already have a lot? Her constantly schmoozing with the global rich for her charity is bad enough, but she takes a big piece for herself, and she has lived like royalty for a very long time.

Just how stupid are we the people according to her?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 04:06 am
Twenty four reasons every progressive should support Hillary Clinton:

http://freedomslighthouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2016possiblegopcontenders101.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 06:53 am
@revelette2,
Well, I like Bernie, Warren, Chaffee...... but I am not sure any could win. I'll probably be voting for Hillary Clinton. Maybe Dean will run or Kerry.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 06:55 am
@hawkeye10,
Those earnings don't put them in the 1% by a long shot. a loooooooooong shot. Prove your accusation!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 06:56 am
@Frank Apisa,
22 reasons, Two have dropped out already.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 07:45 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Those earnings don't put them in the 1% by a long shot. a loooooooooong shot. Prove your accusation!

It is not my assertion. Follow the link to get a name.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 10:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Apparently Dean showed too much passion and Kerry too little. In any event, I think O'Malley might be announcing at the end of the month. I don't really know any of these except Warren but other than domestic issues I am not sure she is qualified to be President as I have never heard of her expressing any ideas except dealing with domestic issues. I too would like someone to seriously challenge Hillary just to give us a little choice, so far no one has come close.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 02:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
Anyone voting for any of the listed Republican candidates is showing absolute stupidity. They are forcing anyone with an I Q of 50 or more to vote Democrat.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 02:43 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Anyone voting for any of the listed Republican candidates is showing absolute stupidity. They are forcing anyone with an I Q of 50 or more to vote Democrat.


Now that is the arrogance from the left that drives so many sensible people to the R's.......
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 02:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Please explain how the fact that we have not had a primary yet connects with the argument that progressives should not support her. I am a pretty smart guy but I cant make it.


this rates -3???!!!

Good people should have fixed that. A2K is only as good as we make it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 06:23 am
Liberals pull from Republican toolbox to sway Hillary Clinton

Liberals pull from Republican toolbox to sway Hillary Clinton
NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio And Sen. Elizabeth Warren Release Progressive Agenda Report

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio speaks about the release of a new report written by Nobel economics laureate Joseph Stiglitz published by the Roosevelt Institute in Washington, DC. (Win McNamee / Getty Images)
By Evan Halper contact the reporter

Politics and Government Bill de Blasio Hillary Clinton Business Economy Republican Party

A liberal Contract With America? Newt Gingrich doubts it'll stick
De Blasio pulls from the GOP toolbox in bid to push Hillary Clinton to the left
De Blasio: Once a trusted Hillary Clinton aide, now, a nuisance to her

In their bid to push Hillary Rodham Clinton to the left, liberal activists are trying a tactic more commonly associated with the right.

Progressive standard bearer Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York, was in Washington on Tuesday, kicking off a campaign to pressure politicians to embrace a 13-point policy blueprint, much the way Newt Gingrich did in 1994, just before Republicans took control of Congress. The effort is timed to influence Clinton as she develops her policy agenda.
This time, Hillary Clinton plays up her gender and key issues for women
This time, Hillary Clinton plays up her gender and key issues for women

But can the De Blasio plan have anything close to the effect of Gingrich’s Contract With America?

Gingrich thinks not. He wrote in the New York Post this week that the contract articulated a vision that already prevailed among Republicans, whereas De Blasio is picking a fight within his own party, timing the effort to influence Clinton as she develops her agenda.
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The bigger challenge De Blasio faces, though, may be articulating a plan as simple and straightforward as the tax cuts, welfare cuts and government reform that conservatives rallied around before taking control of Congress two decades ago.

That much was clear Tuesday morning at the National Press Club, where De Blasio appeared with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D. Mass.) for the unveiling of the 113-page policy report that inspired De Blasio’s blueprint.
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@iamstun1 more ad hominem attacks. really intelligent.
woodturner1946
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The report, written by Nobel laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz and released by the nonprofit Roosevelt Institute, has 331 footnotes. It details how the “trickle-down” economics that has prevailed in America for 35 years has “decimated America’s middle class” and lays out a model for replacing it.

Before De Blasio and Warren spoke, a panel of economists and policy experts talked about “asymmetry” within the economy, the historical roots of inequality and the ways in which the Federal Reserve functions.

Not exactly easily digestible campaign propaganda.

De Blasio is trying to boil it all down to something that resonates with voters. His blueprint focuses on the report’s call to expand Social Security, provide universal pre-kindergarten and boost the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

“There needs to be a movement that will carry these ideas forward,” De Blasio said. The New York mayor, who ran Clinton’s first campaign for Senate, has lately become something of a nuisance to her. He and Warren are taking the lead in pushing Clinton to make policy commitments she might prefer to sidestep.

“There are those times that leaders have to hear sharply the people’s voices and follow through,” he said Tuesday. “And not be overawed by the political limits we have created for ourselves.”

Liberal activists have generally been pleased by the direction the Clinton campaign is going. But the limits of their influence is also coming into focus. Clinton has proved adept at endorsing some key progressive principles without boxing herself into policy commitments that might alienate swing voters in the general election.

Her refusal to take a firm position on the big Pacific trade deal the Obama administration is trying to close is a particular source of irritation to progressives eager to stop it.

“We cannot keep pushing through trade deals that benefit multinational companies at the expense of workers,” Warren said. The senator also put Democrats on notice that some in the party need to rethink their approach to the economy.

“A lot of Democrats seem to have floated along with the idea that economic growth is in direct opposition to strengthening the well-being of America’s working families, and we have to choose growth over our families. That claim is flatly wrong.”

Warren didn't mention it, but there is a term for the type of economic policy the senator says has been so damaging for Democrats, coined when the party controlled the White House in the 1990s: Clintonomics.

Twitter: @evanhalper
Copyright © 2015, Los Angeles Times
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 06:30 am
@hawkeye10,
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Re: hawkeye10 (Post 5950804)
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Please explain how the fact that we have not had a primary yet connects with the argument that progressives should not support her. I am a pretty smart guy but I cant make it.



this rates -3???!!!

Good people should have fixed that. A2K is only as good as we make it.


If you don't get it, maybe you should be posting on a thread where you you do get it. People don't care for you or your point of view. That's what you don't get and you'd like to change a2k to make it appear they do.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 08:58 am
LEFT Presses Clinton To CHOOSE SIDES On Obama Trade Pact



Liberal groups are insisting that Hillary Clinton take a clear stand against the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact that is a crucial part of President Obama’s second-term agenda. They say Clinton, whose positions on trade have zigged and zagged during a long political career, should move beyond populist generalities and let voters know where she stands. “This is a key test for Hillary Clinton. It is time for her to stand up and choose a side,” said Charles Chamberlain, the executive director of Democracy for America. “This is the first pass/fail test of her candidacy,” said Murshed Zaheed, deputy political director of CREDO Action, another liberal group. “It really is, ‘What side are you on?’” emphasized Jacob Swenson-Lengyel, communications lead for National People’s Action. The TPP is the biggest trade deal the United States has negotiated since the North American Free Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico.



NAFTA was finalized by President Bill Clinton’s administration, and has been a bugbear for opponents of trade ever since. Critics of the TPP argue it is cut from the same cloth as NAFTA, and Democrats in the House and Senate are opposing Obama’s call for “fast-track” legislation that would ease negotiations over TPP and its passage by Congress. Hillary Clinton backed the TPP as Obama’s secretary of State, but hasn’t taken a clear position on the campaign trail as she seeks to win over Democratic grassroots voters. “Any trade deal has to produce jobs and raise wages and increase prosperity and protect our security,” Clinton responded last month to a question lobbed by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell at a campaign stop in New Hampshire. “We have to do our part in making sure we have the capabilities and the skills to be competitive,” Clinton added. Back in 2012, Clinton praised the framework for the TPP as setting “the gold standard in trade agreements.” Activists on the left have a host of problems with the TPP, which would create a free-trade area between the United States and 11 other nations, most of them in Asia and Latin America.


One key objection is to the setting-up of a legal process by which corporations could appeal to special tribunals if they believed their rights were being infringed by the laws of a signatory nation. To many on the left, it sounds like an idea that would give corporations power to undercut national sovereignty, and reduce labor and environmental protections. Hillary Clinton’s language on free trade has shifted markedly over the years In her first memoir Living History, published in 2003, Clinton called NAFTA one of “Bill’s successes.” Yet in a presidential debate during her first White House run in 2008, she declared, “I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning.” As a senator, Clinton voted in favor of trade deals with Singapore, Chile, Australia, Morocco and Oman. She also backed an agreement with Peru in 2007, although she was not present in the Senate when it was voted upon. But she voted against the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) in 2005. Further complicating matters, if Clinton wants to embrace the left-wing position now, she would also have to break with the Obama administration in which she was a central figure. “Not being clear on where you stand is problematic,” said Chamberlain. “For Hillary Clinton specifically, here is someone who…has a history of supporting bad trade deals in the past. And you have a White House that claims Clinton backs them.” Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, insisted that Clinton could not stay on the fence on TPP without suffering negative consequences among grassroots Democrats. And he placed her choice in a broader context.


“On most issues, like student debt and wages, the question for Hillary Clinton will not be about which direction she goes — but whether she goes big or goes small,” he said, “Endorsing fast track or the underlying TPP would certainly be going in the wrong direction but many could say the same thing about staying on the sideline when a fight is happening.” But not everyone on the left is eager to put ultimatums before Clinton, who is the prohibitive frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. One prominent liberal voice on free trade, Lori Wallach of Public Citizen, declined an interview request about Clinton’s stance on the TPP. A spokesman for the AFL-CIO also declined to speak about Clinton’s role on the issue, instead citing a speech given by the organization’s president, Richard Trumka, late last month. Trumka never referred to Clinton by name. But he did state that “the labor movement opposes fast track. We expect those who seek to lead our nation forward to oppose fast track. There is no middle ground, and the time for deliberations is drawing to a close.” Left-wingers who have no such reticence about naming Clinton share Trumka’s sentiment in one respect. Clinton needs to speak now, they say, when the debate over TPP and fast track is still being waged, rather than waiting till the issue cools off.





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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/242206-left-presses-clinton-to-choose-sides-on-obama-trade-pact
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