I'm not an atheist, Frank. I'm a christian.
In the interest of getting it all out in the open, I am also not 6-3" nor 260#, either. More 5-11" and 230#
I still respect you and read your stuff and vote you up whether I agree with you or not.
When you called me up short for my treatment of George B, I took it to heart. Because as usual, you were right
My opinion is that you spike the ball too much when discussing atheism and Christianity. That's all.
Read my edit on my last post.
I think you over-do the anti-cop rhetoric in the threads devoted to that
No it doesn't
I see Franks argument here. He's saying that just because he passively doesn't believe in any god, that doesn't mean he is an atheist. He's saying he hasn't seen a god he believes in yet. That makes him more of an agnostic, I suppose. He makes sense to me.
So, like, who writes dictionaries?
Some of us have taken it that you're the one who is imposing 'who we are'; I mean, besides Frank.
Frank Apisa wrote:No it doesn't
Yes it does. It's a matter of elementary logic and standard English usage.
To be sure, you might fall back on Olivier's position, "I disagree that this is the meaning of the word 'atheist'". My answer, as in Olivier's case, would be that nobody cares. Words mean what they mean; dictionaries do a better job than anything else to document their meaning.
- We both agree that the statement, "Frank holds no belief the existence of any gods", is true.
- Given the truth of #1, the statement that "Frank disbelieves in any gods" follows under the American Heritage Dictionary's definition of disbelief.
- Given the truth of #2, the statement that "Frank disbelieves in OR denies the existence of gods" follows from standard Boolean logic: Applying the logical OR to a true statement and a false statement yields a truth value of TRUE.
- Given the truth of #3, the statement that "Frank is an atheist" follows under the American Heritage Dictionary's definition of the term atheism.
I'm not interested in investigating disagreements between an individual's whim and a reputable dictionary.
To be sure, you might fall back on Olivier's position, "I disagree that this is the meaning of the word 'atheist'".