Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

You are dodging the question. If the majority voted against gay marriage, was the majority correct? Since you mentioned the SC, we can agree that the majority isn't always correct, and the SC makes their rulings based on what the Constitution says.


The majority until recently didn't support it, so you don't want to majority to make the rules unless you agree with the majority?


They didn't block everything, they blocked what their voters told them to block. DACA was never brought to Congress, he passed DACA before the new Congress took office, it was during the lame duck session. Background checks are already a thing, the media doesn't sell it for what it really is. You want people doing personal sales to do background checks on people, which isn't a loophole as the left sells it. These types of background checks will do nothing to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them, it only increases the costs to the average gun owner.


So Obama was ok with going around the normal process because he couldn't get his way, and his supporters were ok with this. That doesn't make what he did Constitutional, it makes him everything you accuse Trump of being. Tyrannical.


You keep using Country like it actually means anything. Trump is doing what he was elected to do, what he said he would do. The President doesn't win the votes of the people, he wins the votes of the states.


You can blame the MSM for a lot of that. They lie about his plans, his travel ban was named the "muslim ban" in the media, that effects people's opinion on the subject. Just like with the "kids in cages", putting up photo's taken in 2014 during the Obama years and claiming it was from Trump. We will see what happens in the next election, you are in for a surprise when Trump has a 1984 Reagan type win.


You are wrong, I went and provided proof that it was a stale economy and that it was the slowest recovery in history. There was also the claims for the MSM and DNC that Trump was going to crash the economy with his moves. The economy got better than it was under Obama and then the MSM tried to shift to saying it was still Obama's economy. You can't have it both ways, well I guess you can when you have the media in your pocket. CNN has been exposed first by wikileaks for helping Hillary in the election, and now their bias is being exposed by Project Veritas.


That just isn't the case. The tax policies of Bush had nothing to do with the economy crash, it had everything to do with the housing market and the dump it took, which took a majority of the banks with it. To big to fail was a DNC talking point, the majority of the GOP wanted the banks to crash and burn, it was the left that saved the banks. Bush signed the bailout, and most GOP disagreed with him signing it. Take your propaganda elsewhere. Have you seen the movie The Big Short? It explains everything you want to know about the 2008 crash.


Didn't Bush sign the bank bailout? Obama saved the auto Unions and nothing more.


He might not have the results he wanted, but a lot of that can be blamed on the tariff war with China, once that is resolved we will see much better growth. Congress needs to pass the Canada/Mexico trade deal and do their jobs. He has shown more economic growth then Obama had in all his years, not to mention he is actually trying to fix some of the trade and intellectual property issues which have plagued the US for a couple of decades now. Obama just bowed and let China do what they wanted, to include building islands in the middle of the ocean to extend their "international waters" claim.

Dont. Be dim. The constitution takes precredence. Thats the way it works. What the costiution actually means sometimes is reevaluated tho. Plessy and heller and dred scott being examples of that. However most of the time in most cases being a democracy most times yeah the will of the majority should be what the government should look to. We didnt vote for trump
We damned sure didnt vote for his agrenda. And he intentionally only pleases his base not the majority. So why should we support him when he doesnt reciprocate or make any attempt to reach consensus or compromise. Obama intentionally picked a republican model for obamacare to try to compromise but the repubs spurned even that bevause he proposed it

That was you being dim when you tried to insist majority rules and that's all that matters.


It's good to see you can function in reality.


We don't reevaluate what the Constitution means, it means what it means. What gets evaluated is whether a law that was passed meets the Constitutional protections of the people. Freedom and liberty don't change meanings.


Heller? You are showing your bias again.


Maybe when it comes to actually voting for people, but you will notice we don't vote on the important things, that's why we elect people.


You didn't vote for him, but a majority of the states did, you still seem to fail to understand how our election system works.


This isn't special to Trump, it's that way for every politician. They don't care about what the people who didn't vote for them want, they do the things the people who elected them hired them to do. It's only the left who thinks all politicians should be working for the aims of the looney left.


Yeah, it was the Dems who walked away from a deal on the DACA kids, they didn't want to give him a win. The DNC has no intention of working with Trump or the GOP.


It was doomed to fail, the plan was never meant to be used on a federal scale, it was meant to be used in MA on a small state scale. To then claim it was a GOP plan is just dishonest. There were some good things passed in the ACA, kids on parents plans till 26, pre-existing conditions, but they would have passed on their own as they were easy to get votes from both sides. The left has this fascination with passing huge bills, that way they can hide things from the public.

Gruber was right, they had to treat the public like they were dumb or the ACA would never have passed.

Youre wrong the plan came originally from the right wing republican heritage foundation during the clinton years when there were still a few republicans who were sort of sane
It was intended as a nstional template. Its working in MA and it worked nationally until the right wingers got susceptible justices on SCOTUS fucke to **** with it. The gop has had ten years and they still havent come up with an alternative. Trump has said several times a single payer system would work well but hes never offered anything but smoke and mirrors. Nor have the gop.

Never said that. Dont be dim. Have always said weare a representative constitutional democracy. Trump does government of the people i
E. He thinks his word is the law
But he totally misses the by the people and for the people parts.

If things were as simple as you seem to think. If the costitution meant what it meant and that was obvious, we wouldnt have a court system and two anbd a half centuries of effort to tell us what it means. Live in the real world.

Separate but equal was constitutional for seventy years. Then it gotbreevaluated. Guns were acollective right for militia use for two centuries then the scalia court decided they were an individual right in heller and the country went to hell and ex chef justice berger said pontedly they had created a new "right" out of whole cloth. Yeah they get reinterpreted not alwwys for the better. Sometimes forr the better sometimes not. For the scalia court frequently not.

That is incorrect. Boehner tried to work with Obama. Obama was just such an extremist that he ended up undermining the negotiations.

That is incorrect. As soon as the Republicans took the Senate in the 2014 elections, moderate Republican senators started talking about passing immigration reform.

When Obama heard that the Republicans were about to compromise with him on immigration reform, he rushed his executive order through before the new Congress was sworn in, undermining the Republican effort to pass immigration reform before it ever had a chance to get off the ground.



Obama undermined background checks when he made banning pistol grips the central feature of the 2013 gun control debacle.

The GOP had little to do with this fight. Obama was destroyed by the indomitable might of the NRA.

That is incorrect. Republicans have proposed the Singapore healthcare model as an alternative to Obamacare.

I don't know anything about the Singapore healthcare model, so I can't explain what it is. But Republicans have in fact proposed it (whatever it is) as an alternative.

The fact that progressives keep denying reality and claiming that the Constitution means the opposite of what it says, does not change the reality that the Constitution does in fact have a clear and obvious meaning.

That is incorrect. The right to keep and bear arms has always been an individual right.



Berger's tantrum about the NRA was just virtue signaling. There was no substance to it; he was just attacking a straw man. He even freely admitted that there is an individual right to have guns for self defense.

In Berger's own words: "Americans also have a right to defend their homes, and we need not challenge that. Nor does anyone seriously question that the Constitution protects the right of hunters to own and keep sporting guns for hunting game any more than anyone would challenge the right to own and keep fishing rods and other equipment for fishing -- or to own automobiles."

http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/warren-burger-and-nra-gun-lobbys-big-fraud-on-second-amendment/

George Henry
August 25
A woman dies at age 65 before collecting one benefit check. She and her employer paid into the system for almost 50 years and she collected NOTHING. Keep in mind all the working people that die every year who were paying into the system and got nothing.

And these governmental morons mismanaged the money and stole from the system, so that it's now going broke.
BEAUTIFUL! And they have the audacity to call today's seniors "vultures" in an attempt to cover their ineptitude. DISGRACEFUL!

The real reason for renaming our Social Security payments is so the government can claim that all those social security recipients are receiving entitlements thus putting them in the same category as welfare, and food stamp recipients.
THIS IS WORTH THE FEW MINUTES IT TAKES TO READ AND DIGEST!
F.Y.I. By changing the name of SS contributions, it gives them a means to refute this program in the future. It's free money for the government to spend under this guise.
The Social Security check is now (or soon will be) referred to as a *Federal Benefit Payment* ?
I'll be part of the one percent to forward this. I am forwarding it because it touches a nerve in me, and I hope it will in you.

Please keep passing it on until everyone in our country has read it.
The government is now referring to our Social Security checks as a "Federal Benefit Payment."
This is NOT a benefit. It is OUR money , paid out of our earned income! Not only did we all contribute to Social Security but our employers did too ! It totaled 15% of our income before taxes.(This should be enough for you to forward this message, If not read on.)

If you averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to $180,000 invested in Social Security.
If you calculate the future value of your monthly investment in social security ($375/month, including both you and your employers contributions) at a meager 1% interest rate compounded monthly, after 40 years of working you'd have more than $1.3+ million dollars saved.

This is your personal investment. Upon retirement, if you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year, or $3,277 per month.

That's almost three times more than today's average Social Security benefit of $1,230 per month, according to the Social Security Administration. (Google it – it's a fact). And your retirement fund would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at age 65)! I can only imagine how much better most average-income people could live in retirement if our government had just invested our money in low-risk interest-earning accounts.
Instead, the folks in Washington pulled off a bigger *Ponzi scheme* than Bernie Madoff ever did (or Lyndon Johnson).
They took our money and used it elsewhere. They "forgot"(oh yes, they knew) that it was OUR money they were taking. They didn't have a referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them ... and they didn't pay interest on the debt they assumed. And recently they've told us that the money won't support us for very much longer. (Isn't it funny that they NEVER say this about welfare payments?)
But is it our fault they misused our investments? And now, to add insult to injury, they're calling it a *benefit*, as if we never worked to earn every penny of it. This is stealing!
Just because they borrowed the money, doesn't mean that our investments were for charity!
Let's take a stand. We have earned our right to Social Security and Medicare. Demand that our legislators bring some sense into our government.
Find a way to keep Social Security and Medicare going for the sake of the 92% of our population who need it.

Then call it what it is:
Our Earned Retirement Income .

But, her emails...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-wields-doj-as-russia-media-reprise-2016-roles-for-2020-71798853593

Rachel Maddow? What has she been right about? Just one thing, please.

What have you been right about?

Ask yourself that question without your dishonesty.

A lot more than Maddow. What dishonesty are you speaking of? How about an example? You will find all my posts on my profile page, have at it.

That is mostly a lie. Here's the actual facts on the simularities and differences.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/15/ellen-qualls/aca-gop-health-care-plan-1993/


It was never seriously considered as noted in the link above.


What judges would that be? It was the SC who said the ACA was good to go, there have been no other rulings that I'm aware of. The plan is failing just fine on it's own. It hasn't brought down costs and no one is paying less now then they were then. The majority saw a major increase in their costs, not a lowering. A majority of the state exchanges folded because they couldn't afford it, they transferred the cost to the feds.


That is a lie, there have been alternatives offered, the RINO McCain voted against it, remember.


The majority don't want a single payer system, they don't want the massive tax increase that will come with it.

That's another lie, you have been promoting majority rules for the last several months. What you want is majority rule as long as it agree's with your political views.


He's doing exactly what he was elected to do. Hillary didn't win, her views and objectives are no longer valid.