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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2017 01:13 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
This is why it is so important to vote for Republicans. The Democrats are labeling large swathes of the American populace as mentally ill just so they can violate their rights.
How is the procedure that someone gets the legal status of being "mentally ill" in the USA? Just labelled by a political party to be it seems a bit ... against medical knowledge, irregular ...
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2017 01:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
How is the procedure that someone gets the legal status of being "mentally ill" in the USA?

I'm not sure that there even is such a legal status in America. However, a court can order someone to be committed to psychiatric care because they are a danger to themselves or others. The law reasonably allows for such people to be prohibited from having guns.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
Just labelled by a political party to be it seems a bit ... against medical knowledge, irregular ...

Yes, but when the Democrats think up a new way to violate our rights, they don't hesitate.

If labeling the entire nation as being mentally ill will give the Democrats a path to seizing our guns, then that is fine with them.

The only thing that stopped them was the election of Donald Trump.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2017 10:35 am
Dismal Voucher Results Surprise Researchers as DeVos Era Begins
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/upshot/dismal-results-from-vouchers-surprise-researchers-as-devos-era-begins.html

What??? Parents don't want their kids indoctrinated by private charter schools and their freak religious zealots? (cynical)
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2017 08:07 pm
@georgeob1,
Golly, that means we can only destroy the world 20 times over. Damn but that makes me feel so much better.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Feb, 2017 01:56 am
Former Acting CIA Director Calls Russian Interference In Election ‘The Political Equivalent Of 9/11’
http://linkis.com/huffingtonpost.com/cXYIJ
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 10:54 am
Quote:
The GOP health bill doesn’t know what problem it’s trying to solve

After seven years of drafting a replacement plan, we get … this?
Have you read Sarah Kliff’s thorough look at the GOP Obamacare replacement? You have? Good. Some thoughts.

1.Little in politics shocks me. The process House Republicans want to use for their health care bill does. After literally years of complaining Obamacare was jammed down the American people’s throats with insufficient information or consideration, the GOP intends to hold committee votes on their bill two days after releasing it, and without a Congressional Budget Office report estimating either coverage or fiscal effects. It’s breathtaking.

2.If Republicans believed the American people — or even their own legislators — would like the results of a thorough estimate of their proposal’s effects, they would have waited for one. We’ll get a CBO report anyway, of course. My guess is it will say this: The GOP plan will lead to significant declines in coverage (Loren Adler estimates an eye-popping 15 to 20 million people will lose insurance) as well as accelerating the exhaustion of the Medicare trust fund due to the tax cuts. After years of Republicans complaining that co-pays and deductibles were too high in Obamacare, co-pays and deductibles will be significantly higher under their replacement. The plan will significantly reduce taxes on the rich.

3.I honestly have no idea what it will do to the deficit — it’s hard to see any short-term reduction, and if there’s a long-term reduction, it will only be due to deep, deep Medicaid cuts, which will mean a correspondingly large increase in the uninsured. It’s worth noting that the GOP’s main idea for reducing health care costs — ending or capping the tax break for employer-provided insurance — has been left out of this legislation. There is simply no theory of cost control in this bill at all.

4.Adverse selection seems like a huge problem in this plan. The individual mandate is gone, healthy people can buy coverage at any time with only a 30 percent penalty, and eliminating actuarial values makes it simpler for insurers to pull the young and healthy away from older and sick. Death spirals seem very likely in weak markets. Republicans will fully own those death spirals.

5.The plan is strikingly regressive compared to the Affordable Care Act. Cynthia Cox estimates that a 40-year-old making 160 percent of the poverty line would get $4,143 in subsidies under the ACA, but only $3,000 under the GOP plan. By contrast, a 40-year-old making $75,000 would get nothing under the ACA, but $3,000 under the GOP plan.

6.Hypocrisy is a minor sin in politics, but still, it is remarkable how much of it there is to be found in this legislation. A core Republican complaint when Obamacare was passed was that the law delayed many of its provisions in order to reduce public outcry and manipulate the CBO’s score. The GOP bill is similarly aggressive with such tricks, delaying changes to the Medicaid expansion until 2020 and pushing Obamacare’s tax on expensive insurance plans out until 2025.

7.“In general,” writes Peter Suderman, “it's not clear what problems this particular bill would actually solve.” This is a profound point. It is difficult to say what question, or set of questions, would lead to this bill as an answer. Were voters clamoring for a bill that cut taxes on the rich, raised premiums on the old, and cut subsidies for the poor? Will Americans be happy when 15 million people lose their health insurance and many of those remaining face higher deductibles?

8.Nor are movement conservatives pleased with this plan, which leaves the basic architecture of Obamacare intact, and doesn’t begin to phase out the Medicaid expansion until 2020 (raising the question of whether it will ever phase out at all). "It's subsidies for unaffordable health care, subsidies for unaffordable premiums,” said Rep. Jim Jordan of the House Freedom Caucus. Rep. Jordan Amash called it "Obamacare 2.0."

9.To give Amash some credit, this is much more Obamacare 2.0 than I expected from the GOP. The structure and generosity of the subsidies change, but Medicaid is left alone until 2020, and the odds it changes after that are open to debate. On the regulatory side, many of Obamacare’s key protections, from essential benefits to lifetime limits to protections for preexisting conditions, remain in place. On the tax side, the Cadillac tax, to my surprise, survives, in theory at least.

10.All this speaks to the Republican Party’s fundamental difficulty on health care, which Suderman captures well: “The GOP's real problem, in terms of passing legislation, isn't that the party can't agree on specifics, or that legislators need to bargain their way toward a compromise that gives everyone something they want. It's that they don't agree on, or in some cases even have, basic goals when it comes to health policy.”

11.Because Republicans aren’t even trying to win Democratic votes, they’re stuck designing a bill that can wiggle through the budget reconciliation process (another thing they complained about Democrats doing). That means they can’t make major changes to insurance markets like repealing Obamacare’s essential benefit standards or allowing insurance to be sold across state lines. That last part is particularly striking, given that it was one of President Trump’s five demands in his speech last week. I’ve always been skeptical about the savings Republicans could wrest by changing those regulations, but now they can’t get those savings at all — which means sacrificing a key part of their theory of cost control.

12.This bill has a lot of problems, and more will come clear as experts study its language, the Congressional Budget Office release its estimates, and industry players make themselves heard. But the biggest problem this bill has is that it’s not clear why it exists. What does it make better? What is it even trying to achieve? Democrats wanted to cover more people and reduce long-term costs, and they had an argument for how their bill did both. As far as I can tell, Republicans have neither. At best, you can say this bill makes every obvious health care metric a bit worse, but at least it cuts taxes on rich people? Is that really a winning argument in American politics?

13.In reality, what I think we’re seeing here is Republicans trying desperately to come up with something that would allow them to repeal and replace Obamacare. This is a compromise of a compromise of a compromise aimed at fulfilling that promise. But “repeal and replace” is a political slogan, not a policy goal. This is a lot of political pain to endure for a bill that won’t improve many peoples’ lives, but will badly hurt millions.


vox
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:36 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
Former Acting CIA Director Calls Russian Interference In Election ‘The Political Equivalent Of 9/11’


Do you think that false flag will have as much productive propaganda value as the 9-11 false flag?
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:38 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
We haven't targeted "cities" in a very long time.


Wrong. Cities, towns, villages, men, women, children. It's all the same to the invaders.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:03 pm
@RABEL222,
I don't know about 20 times over, but back in the fifties when I served in the USAF, we had enough nukes then to destroy the major cities of the world.
We have since then developed intercontinental missiles. Who knows how much damage they can do to this world between a war between Russia and the US and our allies.

I designed the 37th Aviation Depot Squadron patch while stationed at Walker AFB in New Mexico.
http://ericsusafpatches.nl/supporting%20units/squadrons-flights/squadrons-flights%201_50.htm
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 08:37 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 05:16 pm
BREAKING: Over 150 Democrats Make HUGE Move Against Trump. Do You Support?
http://vote.us.org/memo/thread/4407/breaking-over-150-democrats-make-huge-move-against-trump-do-you-support/
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 05:50 pm
The Most Dangerous Bill You’ve Never Heard Of Just Passed The House
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/the-most-dangerous-bill-y_b_14067390.html
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 05:54 pm
1. He called Hillary Clinton a crook. You bought it. Then he paid $25 million to settle a fraud lawsuit.
2. He said he’d release his tax returns, eventually. You bought it. He hasn’t, and says he never will.
3. He said he’d divest himself from his financial empire, to avoid any conflicts of interest. You bought it. He is still heavily involved in his businesses, manipulates the stock market on a daily basis, and has more conflicts of interest than can even be counted.
4. He said Clinton was in the pockets of Goldman Sachs, and would do whatever they said. You bought it. He then proceeded to put half a dozen Goldman Sachs executives in positions of power in his administration.
5. He said he’d surround himself with all the best and smartest people. You bought it.
He nominated theocratic loon Mike Pence for Vice President. A white supremacist named Steve Bannon is his most trusted confidant. Dr. Ben Carson, the world’s greatest idiot savant brain surgeon, is in charge of HUD. Russian quisling Rex Tillerson is Secretary of State.
6. He said he’d be his own man, beholden to no one. You bought it. He then appointed Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education, whose only “qualifications” were the massive amounts of cash she donated to his campaign.
7. He said he would “drain the swamp” of Washington insiders. You bought it. He then admitted that was just a corny slogan he said to fire up the rubes during the rallies, and that he didn’t mean it.
8. He said he knew more about strategy and terrorism than the Generals did. You bought it.
He promptly gave the green light to a disastrous raid in Yemen- even though all his Generals said it would be a terrible idea. This raid resulted in the deaths of a Navy SEAL, an 8-year old American girl, and numerous civilians. The actual target of the raid escaped, and no useful intel was gained.
9. He said Hillary Clinton couldn’t be counted on in times of crisis. You bought it. He didn’t even bother overseeing that raid in Yemen; and instead spent the time hate-tweeting the New York Times, and sleeping.
10. He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times “fake news” and said they were his enemy. You bought it. He now gets all his information from Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.
11. He called Barack Obama “the vacationer-in-Chief” and accused him of playing more rounds of golf than Tiger Woods. He promised to never be the kind of president who took cushy vacations on the taxpayer’s dime, not when there was so much important work to be done.
You bought it. He took his first vacation after 11 days in office. On the taxpayer’s dime. And went golfing. And that’s just the first month.
- Robert Reich
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:02 pm
@TheCobbler,
He also pushed the birther issue against Obama for five years, and claimed he was not qualified to be our President. The irony, of coarse, is that Obama has one of the highest approval ratings, and Trump's first weeks in office shows him at the bottom.
Trump is also a racial bigot, liar, and scammer of many.

Even a republican commenter called Trump a "racial bigot and misogynist."
https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/06/cnn-republican-political-commentator-trump-bigot-he-racist-he-misogynist/213575
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 06:07 pm
TENNESSEE: Christian Sponsor Of “Don’t Say Gay” Bill Accused Of Adultery In Local Couple’s Divorce Filing
http://www.joemygod.com/2017/03/09/tennessee-christian-sponsor-dont-say-gay-bill-accused-adultery-local-couples-divorce-filing/
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 07:58 pm
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 08:29 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
BREAKING: Over 150 Democrats Make HUGE Move Against Trump. Do You Support?
http://vote.us.org/memo/thread/4407/breaking-over-150-democrats-make-huge-move-against-trump-do-you-support/

The Democrats have no power to do anything but whine.

I do support their right to whine, but I advise that people pay no attention to their whining. Better to focus on something that actually matters.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 08:31 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
He promptly gave the green light to a disastrous raid in Yemen- even though all his Generals said it would be a terrible idea. This raid resulted in the deaths of a Navy SEAL, an 8-year old American girl, and numerous civilians. The actual target of the raid escaped, and no useful intel was gained.

I question the truthfulness of the claim that all his generals opposed it.

I also note the fact that Obama viewed the raid favorably and only left it for Trump to deal with because it was not a new moon yet.

It is indeed a shame that the soldier was killed. Unfortunately that can happen in war.

Collateral damage = BONUS POINTS

The intelligence was useful. It might not have given the government a trail directly to Zawahiri, but that doesn't mean it wasn't useful.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2017 09:07 pm
@oralloy,
US military sources criticize Trump's approval of Yemen strike.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/u-s-military-sources-criticize-trump-approved-yemen-strike.html

Quote:
New questions have emerged about what went wrong in the U.S. military raid against Al Qaeda in Yemen last weekend. Chief Petty Officer William “Ryan” Owens, a Navy SEAL, was killed in the operation and three other U.S. service members were injured. Nawar Al-Awlaki, the 8-year-old daughter of American Al Qaeda leader Anwar Al-Awlaki, was also killed, and local reports say as many as 30 people died. The raid was the first operation approved by President Trump.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 10 Mar, 2017 01:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
US military sources criticize Trump's approval of Yemen strike.

What military sources are these?

Making sure that the raid was adequately prepared is the job of the generals, not the president. If the generals failed to do their job, they should shape up and start doing better.
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