Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

What a wildly improbable conspiracy theory.

What's wildly improbable is the notion that Mickey Mouse from Leningrad and Donald Duck from Moscow are really huge supporters of gay rights in Michigan.

I bet at least 90% of these "internet signatures" are going to come from a Russian IP address.

MontereyJack wrote:

Besides, if the gay rights initiative gets on the ballot, gays are likely to get equal rights, since a Michigan poll shows voters support gay rights 52.5 to 32.5.

Why should the KGB be in charge of what initiatives appear on Michigan's ballot?

If you want the KGB to decide the results of your elections, that's your business. I prefer that Michigan voters continue to decide Michigan elections.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Why should the KGB be in charge of what initiatives appear on Michigan's ballot?

If you want the KGB to decide the results of your elections, that's your business.

Is your extremely high IQ not enough to realise that since the end of the USSR in 1991 the KGB doesn't exist anymore?

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@Walter Hinteler,

You should know the answer to that. We've discussed their modern acronyms before, so quite obviously I know that they call themselves a different name now.

They're still the same agency no matter what they call themselves, and without looking it up I can never remember "SVR" except for the fact that it has a V in it. And I bet if I had referred to the SVR instead of the KGB, no one but you would have known what I was referring to.

For that matter they've renamed Leningrad too. But it is exactly the same place despite the different name.

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@oralloy,

You constantly display your ignorance. St. Petersburg was founded by Peter Alexeyevich Romanov in 1703. In 1914, at the beginning of the Great War, Nicholas II decreed that it should be known as Petrograd, which didn't have such a German flavor. After Krasny Oktyabr, it was renamed Leningrad. They've just gone back to the original name.

As always, you demonstrate that your "knowledge" is narrow and shallow. No surprise there.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

You constantly display your ignorance.

You still cannot point out a single untrue statement in any of my posts.

Setanta wrote:

As always, you demonstrate that your "knowledge" is narrow and shallow. No surprise there.

Which one of us can point out untrue statements in the other's posts?

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Setanta wrote:
You constantly display your ignorance.
You still cannot point out a single untrue statement in any of my posts.

Not so, ignorance breath.

You wrote:

For that matter they've renamed Leningrad too. But it is exactly the same place despite the different name.

It was renamed when they started calling it Petrograd. It was renamed when that was changed to Leningrad. Now, it has been returned to its original name, St. Petersburg. Far from being "exactly the same place," it is now the home of the so-called Internet Research Agency, Putin's troll farm. In addition, it is now the black market capital of Russia in your buddy Putin's corrupt regime. As usual, you display your ignorance, that your alleged "knowledge" is narrow and shallow.

Oralloy wrote:

Setanta wrote:
As always, you demonstrate that your "knowledge" is narrow and shallow. No surprise there.
Which one of us can point out untrue statements in the other's posts?

Me.

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@oralloy,

Actually, what was the KGB is since nearly 20 years the FSB.

I don't think that the SVR-RF is it here, mainly such is done by the GRU with six times (at least, they're doing it in Germany) more spies.

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@Walter Hinteler,

The GRU is military intelligence I think.

I think I did read somewhere that the GRU is much bigger and better funded than the SVR. But military intelligence would also have a more specific agenda than a general purpose intelligence agency.

I assume that tampering with other nations' elections would not fall under the purview of military intelligence. I think they'd be more focused on learning the capabilities and readiness of rival militaries.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Not so,

Your failure to point out any errors in my posts says otherwise.

Setanta wrote:

ignorance breath.

Pretty bold words for someone who can't point out anything untrue in my posts. Empty words, as it turns out.

The person who coined the saying "all hat and no cattle" must have had your bluffing in mind.

I wrote:

For that matter they've renamed Leningrad too. But it is exactly the same place despite the different name.

Note the fact that 100% of what I said is true.

They renamed the city. And the city is still the same place despite the name change.

Setanta wrote:

It was renamed when they started calling it Petrograd.

That does not change the reality that they have changed the name from Leningrad.

It also does not change the reality that it remains the same place despite the name change.

Setanta wrote:

It was renamed when that was changed to Leningrad.

That does not change the reality that they have changed the name from Leningrad.

It also does not change the reality that it remains the same place despite the name change.

Setanta wrote:

Now, it has been returned to its original name, St. Petersburg.

So in other words I was completely correct to note that they changed the name of the place and it is no longer called Leningrad.

Setanta wrote:

Far from being "exactly the same place," it is now the home of the so-called Internet Research Agency, Putin's troll farm. In addition, it is now the black market capital of Russia in your buddy Putin's corrupt regime.

None of that changes the fact that Leningrad is still the same place despite the name change.

Setanta wrote:

As usual, you display your ignorance, that your alleged "knowledge" is narrow and shallow.

You talk and you talk and you talk. But none of your empty talking can change the reality that you cannot provide any examples of errors in my posts.

Setanta wrote:

Me.

Wrong. You are still completely incapable of pointing out any errors in my posts. All you can do is bluff and pretend.

I, on the other hand, can point out a pretty recent glaring error on your part:

"Heller, which narrowly applied to the District of Columbia, and to hand guns for self-defense is the only ruling since The United States versus Miller, which has not mentioned the militia."
https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4354#post-6999817

You've actually made all sorts of untrue statements about guns over the years:

"killing people, which is the only thing a .44 magnum is good for."
https://able2know.org/topic/94800-13#post-2616564

"high-velocity bullets may potentially cause life-threatening blunt-force injuries--but still will not penetrate the kevlar body armor."
https://able2know.org/topic/91910-16#post-2551563

"Weapons follow the direction of the ejected cartridge."
https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4141#post-6973967

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

I assume that tampering with other nations' elections would not fall under the purview of military intelligence. I think they'd be more focused on learning the capabilities and readiness of rival militaries.

Whatever you think - they act(ed) differently.

Dmitry Badin lead the operation in Germany in 2015 - he was already on the FBI’s wanted list over his alleged involvement in several hacking operations attributed to GRU’s APT28 unit.

Dmitry Badin has been/is a Russian military intelligence officer, assigned to Unit 26165 born in Kursk on 15 November 1990.
Badin’s registered address, as of 1 June 2018, was Komsomolsky Prospect 20 - the address of GRU’s military unit 26165.

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@oralloy,

You are completely wrong about St. Petersburg, but, being delusional, believing your own lies about your putative intelligence, you are incapable of admitting that you're wrong. It'll be hilarious when the gay rights bill passes in Michigan, you'll probably crap your pants.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

You are completely wrong about St. Petersburg,

Nope. They did indeed change the name. It is no longer referred to as Leningrad.

Setanta wrote:

but, being delusional,

Note your perpetual failure to point out any untrue statements in my posts.

Setanta wrote:

believing your own lies about your putative intelligence,

Reality is not a lie. My IQ is 170, and that is vastly smarter than you are.

Setanta wrote:

you are incapable of admitting that you're wrong.

Wrong again. I'm always quick to admit it when I'm wrong.

Setanta wrote:

It'll be hilarious when the gay rights bill passes in Michigan, you'll probably crap your pants.

Hopefully the courts will step in and stop these fraudulent "internet signatures" from being counted.

We also need the courts to block the bogus signatures for the anti-fracking proposal.

The only ballot proposal that is properly supported by proper signatures is the anti-abortion initiative.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Whatever you think - they act(ed) differently.

Dmitry Badin lead the operation in Germany in 2015 - he was already on the FBI's wanted list over his alleged involvement in several hacking operations attributed to GRU's APT28 unit.

Dmitry Badin has been/is a Russian military intelligence officer, assigned to Unit 26165 born in Kursk on 15 November 1990.
Badin's registered address, as of 1 June 2018, was Komsomolsky Prospect 20 - the address of GRU's military unit 26165.

Well in that case, I don't want the GRU submitting phony "internet signatures" to put a gay rights initiative on Michigan's ballot either.

Michigan elections need to be decided by Michigan voters.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

The GRU is military intelligence I think.

I think I did read somewhere that the GRU is much bigger and better funded than the SVR. But military intelligence would also have a more specific agenda than a general purpose intelligence agency.

I assume that tampering with other nations' elections would not fall under the purview of military intelligence. I think they'd be more focused on learning the capabilities and readiness of rival militaries.

Are you guessing or trying g to present a "fact"? Would you please reread this post of yours and see if you can spot a mistake. I'll give you a hint "general purpose intelligence agency" what in God's name do you think is a general purpose intelligence agency?? Most of the time I don't care what kind of cockamamie notion you dream up, but this one takes the cake.

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@glitterbag,

A general purpose intelligence agency would be one that does not have a specific focus on limited issues.

For example, the NSA deals specifically with signals intelligence.

The CIA on the other hand is flexible and handles all kinds of intelligence.

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@oralloy,

Making up shyt again Ollie? Or just lieing as usual?

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@RABEL222,

The only liar here is you. You cannot provide any examples of anything untrue in my posts.

Really, with your low IQ you wouldn't be capable of pointing out an error in my posts even if one existed. But notice how the people who are smarter than you are, are also incapable of pointing out errors in my posts.

Your dishonorable personal attacks are just an attempt to distract from the way progressives are trying to cheat their proposals onto Michigan's ballot.

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@oralloy,

You are incredibly dense. There is no such thing as a general purpose intelligence agency. Where do you get these ideas? Seriously, what kind of source are you using that describes NSA and CIA is such simplistic fashion. SIGINT is a mere sliver of the mission, but very few Americans are truly interested in how the various Agencies protect this country.

Please don't respond to this post, I don't think I can possibly handle any more stultifying reasoning that you may have cooked up .....My IQ is in danger of dropping to 170 just by reading these flights of jumbled fantasies you unashamedly share as if you actually understand the topic.

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