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Rest in Peace, Ahmed

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2015 08:22 am
@ossobuco,
Yes, martyr theater is a brutal way to put it but it's true as a caricature is often truer than the truth. There was some posturing involved.




At the same time, i think it is still important to safeguard freedom of press and the separation between state and religion. So no blasphemy laws are necessary. It is better to err on the side of laughter than on the side of fundamentalism.
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mars90000000
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2015 10:50 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEvlKKm6og
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jan, 2015 09:59 am
Libération (leftist daily) describes how a real tragedy is given broader meaning and symbolism. The risks of political recuperation or instrumentalisation by racists and extremists are highlighted. So this is not really about Ahmed himself, but more about how his death is being felt by his dear ones and understood or seen in society.

Ahmed Merabet, «French, police officer, Muslim»
Libération, Pierre Benetti, January 13, 2015
http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/13/ahmed-merabet-francais-policier-musulman-tue-par-les-freres-kouachi_1179546

A few hours before the large demonstration in Paris, on the other side of the ring road, nearly 3 000 people paid tribute to one of the victims of January 7, police officer Ahmed Merabet, 42, who lived in the town.

Under applause, Ahmed's mother, a small, frail veiled woman, very tired, walks in and sits on a chair, surrounded by all the family. She is supported by her son Malek, who the day before had held a press conference in tears [when he said]:

"I appeal to all the racists, the Islamophobics and the anti-Semitics: do not confuse extremists and Muslims. [...] Stop the amalgam, stop starting wars, burning mosques and synagogues. Stop attacking people. It will not bring back our dead and it does not soothe our pain."[/i]

The President of the National Assembly, Claude Bartolone, [is present at the funeral and] welcomes "a prestigious name, exemplary," "a child of the Seine-Saint-Denis who became the very face of the Republic." [...] After the minute of silence, the group sings the Marseillaise and holds hands. There are probably as many tears here and contemplation as on the Place de la République [in the CH march], but more veiled women, more youth from the boroughs, more old immigrants.

After the speeches, the family concludes simply with: "Thank you. We ask you all to please remain calm."

A SYMBOL DESPITE HIMSELF

"French, policeman, Muslim: this is the best example, says Mohamed, who lived in Livry. I am 54 years old and this is the first time I participate in demonstrations." In a few minutes, Wednesday, January 7, this son of Algerians immigrants became a symbol despite himself. One of the many symbols for the history [or story] of January 7, the story of a Republic that saw her children kill and die.

And as the survivors of Charlie Hebdo, Ahmed's relatives are not in control of the "Je suis Ahmed" movement that followed his assassination. "It's not like the other victims, says Salem Haidoudi, deputy mayor of Livry-Gargan. They are still shocked to have seen their child die."
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jan, 2015 10:58 am
Last one on Ahmed Merabet and his family. In memoriam.

Quote:
The family of Ahmed Merabet, the policeman killed in cold blood by the Kouachi brothers after the attack against Charlie Hebdo, has paid tribute to the deceased and called for an end to all the confusions ['amalgames'].

[...] This Saturday, January 10, the family of Ahmed Merabet held a press conference both to honor the deceased and to call for tolerance and not to mix Muslims with extremists.

"A man of commitment," Ahmed watched "on his mom and his family since the death of his father twenty years ago," said his brother, in tears, adding that his responsibilities as the family pillar did not stop him to be "a protective son, a teasing brother, a doting uncle and a loving companion." "Devastated by this barbaric act, we feel for all the families of the victims and share their grief," he added.

"Do not mix extremists and Muslims. Madmen have no color nor religion", he said, addressing "all the racists, Islamophobics and anti-Semitics" [out there]. Stop the confusion, stop starting wars, burning mosques and synagogues. Stop attacking people. It will not bring back our dead and it does not soothe our pain."


https://fr.tv.yahoo.com/news/bouleversant-appel-tolérance-famille-ahmed-merabet-vidéo-174408416.html
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imawonderingwhy
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 10:41 am
@Olivier5,
Oli: Here you go.

===============

You definitely know what a red herring is. You don't like science, do you? Are you an intelligent design advocate too?
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:18 am
@imawonderingwhy,
H-e-e-eee's b-a-a-a--ck! Hey, JT... LTNC
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imawonderingwhy
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:28 am
@Olivier5,
You really are rather good at misdirection, Olivier.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:54 am
@imawonderingwhy,
I'm good at spotting phonies, liars and fakes, and you are one of them.
imawonderingwhy
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 12:08 pm
@Olivier5,
But you make a mockery of Ahmed and all those war criminal Americans who illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and multitudinous other countries to "fight for our freedoms"?

Now you afraid to discuss science?!
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 12:27 pm
@imawonderingwhy,
LOL... Looking for a fight, kiddy?
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whitebars
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2015 05:40 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The truth is the people of Charlie Hebdo were not the secular saints you make them out to be.


Wow, that's vile.
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