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WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS....NOW!

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2015 08:53 pm
@carloslebaron,
carloslebaron wrote:
The investigation should be on the mother's reasons to have an unlocked arm ready to shoot inside the store.

That answer will likely be: "because she chose to do so as a free American citizen".
mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2015 04:33 am
@oralloy,
But by not having the gun on safe, she showed that she wasnt a responsible gun owner.
Every person I know, including me, that carries a concealed weapon, knows to keep the gun on safe until ready to actually use it, they even teach that in the military.
So, while this may have been a freak accident, it could all have been avoided if the mother had safed her weapon.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2015 06:11 am
@oralloy,
Because like you, she chooses to be an imbecile? Er .... CHOSE to be an imbecile.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2015 03:20 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
But by not having the gun on safe, she showed that she wasnt a responsible gun owner.
Every person I know, including me, that carries a concealed weapon, knows to keep the gun on safe until ready to actually use it, they even teach that in the military.
So, while this may have been a freak accident, it could all have been avoided if the mother had safed her weapon.

Did her gun have a safety? Some don't (Glocks for instance).

I've also heard of responsible people carrying a double action with a round in the chamber and the safety off.

If you were carrying a single action with the hammer cocked and a round in the chamber though, then you'd certainly want to ensure that the safety was on.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2015 03:38 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
(Glocks for instance).
http://i62.tinypic.com/1ffm78.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2015 06:26 am
Lawmakers Ban Open Carry In Washington State Capitol After Gun Nuts Storm Building

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/PROTEST12.jpg

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/17/lawmakers-ban-open-carry-washington-state-capitol-gun-nuts-storm-building.html

"In a classic case of a group hurting their cause more than helping it, approximately 200 gun rights activists demonstrated at Washington’s state capitol building on Thursday morning to ostensibly protest the passage of I-594, a law that expands background checks in the state. A large number of the demonstrators brought assault rifles and holstered pistols to the rally. Eventually, after a number of speeches on the steps of the Capitol, some of the activists entered the building with rifles and made their way to the gallery shortly after that morning’s House session had ended.

A day after this display, Lt. Governor Brad Owen, a Democrat and President of the Senate, announced that openly carried firearms are now banned from the public viewing area. Owen pointed out that other forms of demonstrating are prohibited in the public gallery, such as applause, and they do not allow backpacks and umbrellas to be brought into the area. With that in mind, it would only make sense that guns are off limits."

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kplu/files/styles/x_large/public/201501/AP949884930114.jpg

More inanimate objects being discriminated against! And their firearms are also being discriminated against. Notice they brought a confused looking child along, because.....reasons. Because nothing says "democracy!" than intimidating a sitting democracy institution with a display of firepower that would kill them all in 30 seconds. Are Muslims with firearms also allowed or just good old boys?
Are they also allowed to get drunk and "exercise" their "rights" in the legislature? How about some free speech to go along with those firearms?



............................

Texas Legislature Responds To Guns in the Public Gallery with Panic Buttons

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/15/belligerent-open-carry-group-confronts-harasses-texas-state-lawmakers.html
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2015 08:40 am
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/ArtleS/2014/ArtleS20140610_low.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jan, 2015 03:58 pm
Rawstory: Americans now more likely to die from getting shot than in car accidents

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control says that Americans are now statistically more likely to be killed by a gun than in a car accident.

The Economist reported Friday that death by cars in this country is on the decline. Safety technology continues to improve, states and municipalities have enacted tougher seatbelt laws and fewer young people are driving, which means that streets and highways in the U.S. are safer than ever.

Deaths by gunshot, however, are on a slight increase in the U.S., meaning that currently, Americans are slightly more likely to be killed by bullets — whether through suicide, accidents or domestic violence — than in a road accident.

The Center for American Progress released a report last year saying that soon the two lines would intersect for people 25 and under, but now the Bloomberg News has released its own numbers, which indicate that gun deaths have overtaken road accidents as a cause of death for the whole population, regardless of age.

The Economist said that there are nearly 320 million people in the U.S. and nearly as many firearms. While the percentage of households that own guns has gone down, many firearms enthusiasts are buying up as many weapons as they can.

<snip>

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/americans-now-more-likely-to-die-from-getting-shot-than-in-car-accidents/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jan, 2015 05:54 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/spam.gif
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giujohn
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jan, 2015 08:06 pm
I'm fairly certain the reason BooB is against carry laws is because he cant get a permit or legaly own one because of his police record. This is the same reason he is anit-police. Im fairly certain when he was arrested he resisted arrest and some 5'5" female cop beat his ass.

A case of...http://kingsenglish.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sour-grapes.jpg (sour grapes)
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:21 am
Gun Group Plans To 'Hunt Down The Republicans' Who Opposed Texas Open Carry Bill

After Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) announced on Tuesday that there were not enough votes in the state senate to pass a bill allowing residents to open carry handguns, a state gun group responded with threats.

Tarrant County Open Carry said it will not accept the lawmakers' decision to drop the bill for now and plans to identify Republican lawmakers who do not support the legislation.

"Well, it's time to hunt down the Republicans who don't support the Constitution and the Republican Platform," the group wrote on Facebook. "Then, we will expose them and help them find a new job by making sure they won't have a chance to ever get elected in Texas again. Time to start sending these people to California."

The group encouraged supporters to call their state senators and find those "who are not listening to the #WeThePeople."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/open-carry-group-hunt-down-republicans
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:23 am
@giujohn,
You really think I can't legally own arms? Boy is that going to put a crimp on my auxiliary sheriff's deputy status!

I think your little scenario speaks more about you than me. Have you stopped beating your "wife", yet?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:26 am
Gun Group Plans To 'Hunt Down The Republicans' Who Opposed Texas Open Carry Bill

After Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) announced on Tuesday that there were not enough votes in the state senate to pass a bill allowing residents to open carry handguns, a state gun group responded with threats.

Tarrant County Open Carry said it will not accept the lawmakers' decision to drop the bill for now and plans to identify Republican lawmakers who do not support the legislation.

"Well, it's time to hunt down the Republicans who don't support the Constitution and the Republican Platform," the group wrote on Facebook. "Then, we will expose them and help them find a new job by making sure they won't have a chance to ever get elected in Texas again. Time to start sending these people to California."

The group encouraged supporters to call their state senators and find those "who are not listening to the #WeThePeople."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/open-carry-group-hunt-down-republicans
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:27 am
@mysteryman,
Unfortunately she can't even qualify for the Darwin award because she'd already muddied the gene pool by reproducing.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:30 am
Arizona border vigilante gets jail for drawing gun on deputy

A border vigilante arrested after he drew a gun on a Maricopa County Sheriff'sdeputy in the desert was sentenced Friday to six months in jail, but was grantedthe opportunity to leave for work six days out of the week.

The sentence for Richard Malley, 50, was about as generous as the judge couldhave ordered, with Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Bruce Cohen notingthat Malley qualified for nearly every mitigating factor available.

But Malley couldn't escape a courtroom lecture from both Cohen and his own defense attorney, both the men chastising what they saw as Malley's half-baked attempt at vigilantism.

Malley was arrested in August 2013, when he and two other members of a "Minuteman militia group" were scouting for smugglers in the desert area near Gila Bend.


http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2015/01/30/arizona-border-vigilante-sentencing-abrk/22594143/
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 03:22 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
auxiliary sheriff's deputy status!



Uh... HA-HA-HA-HA...Not even if you won the lotto and offered to pay for all new cars and everyones salary would any dept. let you wear a badge...or even be a meter maid. Not even if pigs started flying...but thanks for the laugh. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 06:02 pm
@giujohn,
Quote:


http://articles.dailypress.com/2012-09-01/news/dp-nws-police-hires-facebook-backgound-checks-0823-20120901_1_social-media-wight-sheriff-mark-marshall-check-job/2


Exclusive: Public safety agencies use social media to check applicants' backgrounds
Police and some fire departments are probing social media sites to get the digital dirt on prospective employees. They say the virtual character check is necessay to make sure people are fit to work in the agencies who are in the public eye.
Police and some fire departments are probing social media sites to get the… (Justin Sullivan, Getty…)
September 01, 2012|By Tyra M. Vaughn, [email protected] | 247-7870
Before hiring a new sheriff's deputy earlier this year, Gloucester Sheriff Darnell Warren said an investigator conducted a criminal background check on the prospective employee, probed his credit report and interviewed his neighbors and previous employers.

He also said the person spent time browsing the job candidate's social media pages, checking out his friends, pictures, postings and digging for other digital dirt.



Warren calls it a virtual character check and he said the practice has become an important tool in making sure his agency hires a quality employee.

"We're trying to learn who the applicant is," Warren said. "We want to make sure we're not putting ourselves in an embarrassing situation."

Warren said he implemented the social media background checks into the hiring process after taking over the office in February.

"I don't want to hire somebody that on face value looks like an outstanding person and then you find out they've been blasting racial, anti-religious and anti-government remarks on social media," he said. "I don't want to hire somebody who is playing by the rules now because they work for me."

The Gloucester Sheriff's Office is not alone in checking Facebook and other social media sites as part of their hiring process. Many public safety agencies across the country are now looking at these sites to delve into the backgrounds of people who are hoping to wear their uniforms.

On the Peninsula, nearly every law enforcement agency probes these sites as some part of the vetting process.

James City County checks publicly accessible social media profiles as part of the overall hiring process for new firefighters, police and dispatchers, said James "Pete" Peterson II, the county's assistant director of human resources.

Hampton Police Division spokeswoman Mary Shackelford said all prospective employees are asked if they have social media pages, and public profiles of those individuals are sometimes looked at. However, the information discovered through the site checks are never used to disqualify an applicant, who Shackelford said will always continue through the process.

Williamsburg's police and fire department's both check job candidate's public pages. The police department began doing social media background checks when it hired its last crop of officers more than a year ago, said Chief Dave Sloggie. Twitter, Facebook and Myspace are among the sites investigators check, he said.

"It's just good common sense," Sloggie said. "We look at history as the best predictor of future behavior. In law enforcement, we realize society holds us up to a higher standard and our current and future officers need to be upholding to those standards."

It is for that reason that Isle of Wight Sheriff Mark Marshall said his office regularly monitors employees' and applicants' public postings and images on Facebook and other social mediums.

In recent years, a growing number of situations have cropped up nationwide, usually involving young officers and the most frequent users of social media, said Marshall, past president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.


"We don't want to get into private affairs of people," Marshall said. "But there have been a number of cases around the country of officers posting inappropriate posts or pictures that are embarrassing to their agencies or localities … or in some cases, downright illegal."

Marshall's rule of thumb for aspiring law enforcement officers, when it comes to using social media: "If you have something inappropriate on there, get it off," Marshall said. "If you question what is appropriate, ask yourself what you grandmother would think if she saw your post."

The Gloucester Sheriff's Office checks both public and private social media profiles of job candidates, Warren said. He said his office doesn't request applicants' passwords but does require them to log into their pages so investigators can take a look. Candidates are allowed to decline the request, he said.

The Newport News Police Department also asks job candidates to log into their social media pages in order to check private profiles, said spokesman Lou Thurston. He said candidates who refuse to honor the request are not automatically disqualified from employment.

Warren said individuals are also not ruled out by his agency if they don't want to show their pages. He said that decision by an applicant would be concerning to him, however.

The practice of employers checking applicants' private social media pages is controversial and several states are considering laws that could ban it.

The Virginia American Civil Liberties Union remains critical of Virginia State Police who require prospective troopers to sign into their social media profiles on an agency laptop to allow a background investigator to look at it.

Earlier this year, the organization sent a letter to the state police superintendent, questioning the legality of the checks.

State police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said the agency stands by its practice.

"Providing Virginia's citizens with the highest quality and caliber of state troopers requires a comprehensive vetting process," Geller said in a prepared statement. "The VSP is a unique public agency in the services it provides; therefore, in today's society, the virtual character check is just as important as the "physical" character check."



However, not all public safety agencies are currently checking social media in background investigations.

York County Sheriff's Office new hires tend to be people other employees recommend so the agency hasn't resorted to checking social media sites in the background check, said Sheriff J.D. "Danny" Diggs.

Mathews Sheriff Mark Barrick agrees, but said when he hires in the future, he plans to start checking the social media sites.

"I will probably do that before I even talk to them," he said.

Staff Writer Allison T. Williams contributed to this report.

Who's checking social media?

Newport News
giujohn
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 06:23 pm
@BillRM,
LOL...yeah thats why I was laughing...thanks. Some departments do it the easy way and request that the applicant sign a form allowing access to their ISP account logs so they can see everything over the course of months/years (depending on the ISP) at once and then pick and choose where to go and look...like porn sites.

Deputy sheriff my ass. That statement alone is prima facie evidence BooB is a total bullshitter.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 08:48 pm
@giujohn,
Well actually I'm not an auxiliary, I thought you'd like someone else's lie to go with your own you've shared. But the fact is I support open carry, and I do own arms legally.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jan, 2015 09:39 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Well actually I'm not an auxiliary


Yeah, no **** Sherlock... once a liar always a liar.

What a BooB
 

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