oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2019 09:46 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
I've pointed out facts and evidence.

But no facts or evidence that backs up an accusation of murder.


neptuneblue wrote:
While I'm just one citizen, many see the injustice of it.

The injustice of not convicting people without evidence of their guilt?


neptuneblue wrote:
It's sad you don't.

No. That I speak out on behalf of innocent people is a good thing.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 6 Aug, 2019 03:51 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
But no facts or evidence that backs up an accusation of murder.


Ok, involuntary manslaughter then.

oralloy wrote:
The injustice of not convicting people without evidence of their guilt?


Odd that you'd mention that, since Mr. Garner was not found in possession of any illegal substances, taxed or un-taxed cigarettes or any money.

oralloy wrote:
No. That I speak out on behalf of innocent people is a good thing.


Except that Officer Pantaleo killed Eric Garner. He's not innocent of that.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 6 Aug, 2019 02:58 pm
A Houston man, husband to a sheriff deputy, recently was sentenced to 25 years for doing the same thing. Got in a fight with a man because the man urinated outside. He held the man in a chokehold too long, while his wife held down the man's arm. Same kind of death, same kind of evidence.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 6 Aug, 2019 05:02 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Where is the evidence to back up that accusation?

Not trying to change your mind, that's not going to happen. Just restating my case from earlier.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Aug, 2019 05:42 am
@McGentrix,
Well, it could happen if I saw evidence to support a different conclusion.

It is unlikely that such evidence exists however.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Aug, 2019 05:44 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
A Houston man, husband to a sheriff deputy, recently was sentenced to 25 years for doing the same thing. Got in a fight with a man because the man urinated outside. He held the man in a chokehold too long, while his wife held down the man's arm. Same kind of death, same kind of evidence.

From your description it doesn't sound like the same thing at all.

Mr. Garner only started the "I can't breathe" phase after the pressure on his neck had already been released.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Aug, 2019 05:47 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Ok, involuntary manslaughter then.

I see no facts or evidence to back up that accusation either.


neptuneblue wrote:
Odd that you'd mention that, since Mr. Garner was not found in possession of any illegal substances, taxed or un-taxed cigarettes or any money.

If that is the case then he should have demanded a lawyer instead of resisting arrest.


neptuneblue wrote:
Except that Officer Pantaleo killed Eric Garner. He's not innocent of that.

I thought the autopsy said that there were multiple factors including prone positioning and compression of the chest.
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