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Bill Cosby accused of Rape - say it ain't so

 
 
FOUND SOUL
 
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Sun 20 Sep, 2015 02:19 pm
@ehBeth,
Thank you ehBeth, appreciated.

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“What sort of man casts a shadow over his friends and family? Rather than say, ‘Yes, it was me.’ He was happy to shift suspicion to the people around him to try to take the heat off himself. It made me realise he would throw anyone under the bus to save himself.’’


As Cosby himself, blamed his daughter for being raped, it was her fault. So Tyson, just say you will do counselling.

And Cosby off course is being accused of..........
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Sep, 2015 06:45 am
@hawkeye10,
How rare can it be when there are in excess of 400,000 untested rape kits in the US right now?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Sep, 2015 06:51 am
@hawkeye10,
His support is so broad he doesn't dare set foot in the US. We don't judge by acclamation, we judge by the law with due process. Perhaps that 14 yr old girl's mother should have been arrested, too. But Polanski knew she was 14, and eager or not, experienced or not, she is not capable or allowed by law to give any sort of consent. Wasn't she given sopers, too?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Sep, 2015 06:52 am
@hawkeye10,
By the overwhelming most. You and Bill Cosby thought it was grooovy.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 23 Sep, 2015 01:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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we judge by the law with due process.


Like "Black Lives Matter"does? You should just shut up.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 24 Sep, 2015 06:43 am
@coldjoint,
Why don't you crawl back up your fundement?

Enjoy your suspension, coldfart?
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milan1996
 
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Mon 5 Oct, 2015 01:31 am
@FOUND SOUL,
During that time everyone was warned about drugs, and told not to leave their drinks. Believe it or not most black entertainer was being run down by white, women, and most were still scared to be seen with them. Some were prostitute, and others were trying to get in the entertainment business. These women knew what they were doing even the two minors 16 and 18 years old. The owner of the Playboy Mansion should be locked up for distributing to minors. And another thing, the other women knew that this man was a married man yet, some went too the man's home. room, apartment, and all these things are setting a bad examples for young women by letting them think that it is alright to hang out in mansions with people they do not know, visit a married man in his family home, hotel room, or apartment, and trusting a drink from anyone they really do not know. Either they were ignorant, stupid, or just wanted fame that bad to think Bill Cosby could help them. They are not that innocent although, Dr. Cosby has been convicted by Social Media, and he has not had a trial, nor has he been proven guilty. Doesn't it say that a person is innocent until proven guilty?
hawkeye10
 
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Mon 5 Oct, 2015 01:43 am
@milan1996,
This might be a big week, Cosby is going to try on Wed to end the case that he is scheduled to give a deposition for. I am not sure how strong his argument is, not a lot of legal eagles are giving their opinions. That makes me think that Cosby will win, but tea leaf reading is not a much to go on.
milan1996
 
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Mon 5 Oct, 2015 01:59 am
@Ionus,
During the 60th and 70th, women were warned about drugs, and going to places with men you just met. Also doing that time some women were trying to get into the entertain business by following entertainers, and a lot of these women were white. I worked in a club and saw many women hanging in the dressing rooms, and some even left with them, but most were still afraid to leave with them or be seen in public, because of the law and what might happen to them. Minors was not allowed in the clubs, and that is why I am still puzzled after reading that two of the accusers were minors age 16 and 18 were at the Playboy Mansion, in that case, Social Media should place the owner of the Mansion on trial for distributing too minors.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 02:22 am
@hawkeye10,
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/arts/bill-cosby-deposition-reveals-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-using-fame-drugs-and-deceit.html?action=click&contentCollection=Television&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

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He was not above seducing a young model by showing interest in her father’s cancer. He promised other women his mentorship and career advice before pushing them for sex acts. And he tried to use financial sleight of hand to keep his wife from finding out about his serial philandering.

Bill Cosby admitted to all of this and more over four days of intense questioning 10 years ago at a Philadelphia hotel, where he defended himself in a deposition for a lawsuit filed by a young woman who accused him of drugging and molesting her.

Even as Mr. Cosby denied he was a sexual predator who assaulted many women, he presented himself in the deposition as an unapologetic, cavalier playboy, someone who used a combination of fame, apparent concern and powerful sedatives in a calculated pursuit of young women — a profile at odds with the popular image he so long enjoyed, that of father figure and public moralist.


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That makes me think that Cosby will win,
Says Hawkeye.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 02:29 am
@milan1996,
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These women knew what they were doing even the two minors 16 and 18 years old


Do you classify a 16 year old as being a woman? It appears so.

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The owner of the Playboy Mansion should be locked up for distributing to minors.


I agree that the Playboy Mansion had a big play in how the young ones were allowed in.

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And another thing, the other women knew that this man was a married man yet, some went too the man's home. room, apartment


You have selective reading. He was the "Dad" on TV, he was a mentor, he gave them all a yarn about helping them and training them "for nothing in return" .

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Either they were ignorant, stupid, or just wanted fame


Or they believed in someone helping them as a mentor? And, or they were naïve ? So they are stupid girls, ignorant, seriously? So it's their fault?

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They are not that innocent although

Although nothing, they were/are.. A mentor is a mentor, a dream is a dream, a man comes along and promises for "nothing" even talks to their parents prepping them, letting them know their daughter is "OK" with him, all the while he thinks "I am famous" they will say nothing, neither of them, they will get over it.

I can do what I want.

Did you even bother to see his clues? Date rape drug, that he would "love to do" yet did?

Thank you for joining. I understand your thoughts but to make claims you must read everything, and I mean everything that has been put forward before making "claims" .

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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 02:37 am
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Bill Cosby is seeking to keep private his scheduled questioning under oath in a case involving accusations that he sexually assaulted a young woman when she was 15.

The California lawsuit was filed by the woman, Judy Huth, who says that Mr. Cosby forced her to perform a sex act on him at the Playboy Mansion in 1974.

The deposition, scheduled for Oct. 9, was allowed to go forward in July, when the California Supreme Court denied Mr. Cosby’s petition for review. Last month, a judge set dates for Mr. Cosby’s deposition and that of Ms. Huth.

Mr. Cosby’s lawyers say they have filed a motion for a protective order seeking to keep his questioning private. Such an order would keep the deposition private between the parties.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/24/cosby-seeks-to-keep-private-his-upcoming-deposition-in-a-california-case/?_r=0

So that is all todays hearing is about. Ya, I would think it should be sealed, and that their should be major penalties for leaks, like the case gets thrown out.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 06:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
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A judge ruled on Wednesday to not dismiss Judy Huth's civil suit against Bill Cosby, in which she accuses the 78-year-old comedian of molesting her in 1974 when she was 15 years old.

This means Cosby will now have to testify this Friday. However, Judge Craig D. Karlan approved an order to seal the deposition for 60 days, and continued the hearing on the protective order until Dec. 22, so the court can view the portions of the deposition transcript and the arguments of council to decide which portions may or may not be kept confidential

http://www.etonline.com/news/173518_judge_won_t_dismiss_lawsuit_filed_by_woman_accusing_bill_cosby_of_molestation/
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 08:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
and that their should be major penalties for leaks, like the case gets thrown out.


since the last set of leaks on a sealed case came from the Cosby side I can sort of agree with the general reasoning, however I go for him losing if his side does the leaking once again
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 7 Oct, 2015 09:01 pm
@ehBeth,
specificity please. first two pages of google search "cosby legal team leak" gets me nothing but leaks from the other side.
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ehBeth
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2015 02:26 pm
http://deadline.com/2015/10/bill-cosby-lawsuits-depositions-dateline-special-1201572306/

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UPDATED 12:15PM Saturday:Bill Cosby’s sworn deposition lasted for seven hours Friday in the civil suit brought by a woman who claims the entertainer sexually abused her when she was 15, according to Gloria Allred who is representing Judy Huth.


Allred told reporters Saturday that she could not answer questions about Cosby’s testimony in Boston. “We’ll be filing motions with the court in connection with the deposition. We’ll also be seeking to take a further deposition of Mr. Cosby at a later date.”

Cosby’s attorneys could not be reached for comment, Reuters said.

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PREVIOUSLY, 6:18PM Friday: Busy day for Bill Cosby, and not in a good way. Today he was compelled, for the first time in about a decade, to answer questions under oath about allegations he sexually assaulted a woman in 1974 at the Playboy Mansion, when she was a minor.

Meanwhile, a Massachusetts federal court today ixnayed (read the ruling here) his bid to get dismissed a libel lawsuit being brought against him by three other women, who also claim Cosby assaulted them, but who can’t sue him owing to statute of limitations. Tamara Green, Therese Serignese and Linda Traitz allege that “during the 1970’s [Cosby] met each Plaintiff and subsequently assaulted her.” They claim their reputations were damaged when Cosby representatives told news organizations their allegations are “fabricated.”
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 17 Oct, 2015 11:55 am
@ehBeth,
The longer the deposition, the more fit to hit the shan in the court room. He's got a lot of very specific things to account for.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 17 Oct, 2015 02:27 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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He's got a lot of very specific things to account for.


He is simply a victim of the culture. It works for Muslims.
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hawkeye10
 
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Sat 17 Oct, 2015 06:34 pm
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Not since seven people died from cyanide-laced Tylenol in 1982 has a brand been in as much danger as Playboy is now.

On Oct. 9, Bill Cosby answered questions under oath, for seven hours, about allegations that he drugged and sexually abused women. Judy Huth says the comedian victimized her at the Playboy Mansion in 1974, when she was 15 years old. A judge has allowed a lawsuit by Huth to go forward.

On Thursday, Huth answered questions under oath about the incident. The depositions will remain under seal until Dec. 22, when Judge Craig Karlan will decide whether to make any of the testimony public.

In what may be a strategic bit of damage control, Playboy announced Tuesday that the magazine will no longer show pictures of nude women. The company is in need of damage control, because Judy Huth’s story is not the only one that features the Playboy logo in a cameo role.

Model Chloe Goins says she was drugged and molested by Cosby at the Playboy Mansion in 2008 when she was still a teenager. P.J. Masten says she was working as a Playboy bunny in 1972 when Cosby drugged and raped her at a Chicago hotel. Masten says she reported the incident to her supervisor and was told to keep her mouth shut because Cosby was “Hef’s best friend.” Victoria Valentino says she was drugged and raped by Cosby in the late 1960s when he was a TV star. She says she didn’t report it because she was a Playboy playmate and thought no one would believe her.

Judy Huth’s attorney, Gloria Allred, will be taking testimony from more witnesses. Allegations of rape, sexual assault, sexual abuse of a minor, drug use and intimidation will be in the news for a long time, with the Playboy bunny logo showing up in a significant percentage of the stories.

Playboy Enterprises makes more money from licensing the Playboy name and logo than from any other part of its business. The bunny logo can be found on lingerie, liquor, bath products and jewelry. Last December, Playboy CEO Scott Flanders said product licensing generates $30 million in annual net profits just on sales in China, where pornography is illegal.

Flanders was ready to drop nudity from the magazine at that time, but the idea did not have the support of Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, who still approves the models and photography personally.

Playboy’s Internet site dropped nudity in August 2014, thereby making the content SFW — or “safe for work” — and met with great success. Unique visitors to Playboy.com quadrupled to 14.5 million after the redesign.


http://www.dailynews.com/opinion/20151016/from-playboy-a-naked-attempt-at-damage-control-amid-bill-cosby-scandal-susan-shelley

Clearly horsehit. The mag is irrelevant and for the brand to live it needs to get relevant. Sales of Maxim had been falling for years too, they are currently trying to become a pro feminism mag which could work though I have not seen any numbers since the relaunch in February. I do know that it is no longer worth looking at in my opinion.

Is there a market for girly mags in the age of tons of free internet porn? IDK, but the publishers of Maxim decided that the answer is no, and it looks like playboy has as well.

All of this has nothing to do with Hef and Cosby being friends however, as much as journalists itch to write a storyline that Cosby wrecked Playboy, that Hef is getting what comes from picking the" wrong " friends.
Builder
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2015 03:32 am
@hawkeye10,
You know something Hawk?

If the thumbs-up and thumbs-down system worked in this board, I'd never get to see any of your posts.

 

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