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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 07:43 am
@Lustig Andrei,
I am giving back to him the crap he posts everytime he posts it. He can be stupid and I ignore him. He posts that nasty crap that he has aimed at me at anyone one else and I will give it back to him in aces and spades.

I do the same service for carpfart. And it works. Anytime he spouts his homophobic crap at RexRed I hand it back to Carpfart. He uses a LOT less of it now. Maybe that evil little twit oralliar will take the hint, too.

Its my incivil contribution to a more civil a2k.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 07:44 am
@oralloy,
Out of touch little puke.
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nononono
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 03:39 pm
New York City teacher accused of raping 14-year-old student with learning disabilities

A former New York City substitute teacher allegedly took a student with learning disabilities to her home and raped him on at least six occasions, according to a report from the New York Times.

Maria Contreras, 29, was fired on Saturday from her job as a substitute at the Bronx Academy of Letters shortly after she was arrested and charged with raping the 14-year-old male student.

Ms Contreras allegedly walked with the student from school to her apartment in the Bronx where the two had sex on at least six occasions. She also allegedly engaged in oral sex with the student on two other occasions.

She has been charged with six counts of second-degree rape and two counts of criminal sex acts with a minor. Each of the charges carries a maximum penalty of seven years in prison.

The boy allegedly was a student of Ms Contreras at the school. Authorities were alerted when the boy told his mother about the assaults and she reportedly called police.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-york-city-teacher-accused-of-raping-mentally-handicapped-student-10034721.html
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 03:55 pm
@nononono,
So whats your point? That was rape, too. Or do you think that 14 yr old boy was "lucky"?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 03:59 pm
Pig Boy Reaches New Low With Weird Rape Comments




"Conservative radio host Pig Boy accused President Barack Obama of inflating U.S. rape statistics during his remarks on Sunday during the Grammy Awards, Media Matters reported.

“Did he mention ISIS or al Qaeda at all? He didn’t mention ISIS or al Qaeda in that PSA at the Grammys?” Pig Boy asked sarcastically. “Oh, just some domestic folks. He just confined himself to making up statistics about the number of women that are sexually assaulted in the U.S.”

Obama said on the show that more than 25 percent of U.S. women has experienced domestic violence, and that nearly 20 percent has either been raped or been the victim of a rape attempt. His short pre-recorded statement was followed by remarks from activist and domestic violence survivor Brooke Axtell."* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

*Read more here: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/limbaugh-why-didnt-obama-mention-isis-in-his-grammys-speech-on-domestic-violence/
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nononono
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 04:35 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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So whats your point? That was rape, too. Or do you think that 14 yr old boy was "lucky"?


Rape is rape. Why should I need to justify the article I posted?

Should you and firefly need to justify every article you post?

That is ...unless you consider the rape of males a less serious crime.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 06:33 pm
@nononono,
Clever boy, that's what I asked you. Well?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2015 09:19 pm
Quote:
Most liberals celebrate these developments, yet with a certain uneasiness. Few of them want to apply these protections to society at large. Conservatives and libertarians are up in arms. They see these rules as an assault on free speech and individual liberty. They think universities are treating students like children. And they are right. But they have also not considered that the justification for these policies may lie hidden in plain sight: that students are children. Not in terms of age, but in terms of maturity. Even in college, they must be protected like children while being prepared to be adults.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2015/02/university_speech_codes_students_are_children_who_must_be_protected.html

That argument begs three questions:

1) where do you stop with treating the citizens as children? Those who get in charge and desire to abuse the citizenry have always done their best to get the citizens to accept second tier status because such people are much easier to abuse and swindle.

2) does the Constitution allow treating adults as children?

3) lets say this is true, that we must change the age at which humans are said to be fully formed and responsible for themselves because todays citizens are not ready for adulthood at the age that the majority of many generations before us were....does this not represent a failure of the collective to raise the next generation correctly? I think it does, so then the corrective is to change how we raise children, it is not to decide that we can not do what our parents, grandparents great grand parents and so on did.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 11:30 am
@nononono,
What I love is if there was a child conceived from this rape there is a good chance that when the male rape victim turn 18 he will under current law will need to pay child support to his rapist.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 12:53 pm
@BillRM,
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Re: nononono (Post 5886652)
What I love is if there was a child conceived from this rape there is a good chance that when the male rape victim turn 18 he will under current law will need to pay child support to his rapist.


Drinking shoe polish again?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 02:07 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Notice BillRM's use of the word love. It really is a creature that delights in other's misery.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 05:06 pm
@BillRM,
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

Statutory rape victim forced to pay child support
Alia Beard Rau, The Arizona Republic 1:01 a.m. EDT September 3, 2014
8th most viewed story

PHOENIX — Nick Olivas became a father at 14, a fact he wouldn't learn for eight years.

While in high school, Olivas had sex with a 20-year-old woman. As he sees it now, she took advantage of a lonely kid going through a rough patch at home.

State law says a child younger than 15 cannot consent with an adult under any circumstance, making Olivas a rape victim. Olivas didn't press charges and says he didn't realize at the time that it was even something to consider.

The two went their separate ways. Olivas, now 24 and living in Phoenix, graduated from high school, went to college and became a medical assistant.

Then two years ago, the state served him with papers demanding child support. That's how he found out he had a then-6-year-old daughter.



He said he panicked, ignored the legal documents and never got the required paternity test. The state eventually tracked him down.

Olivas said he owes about $15,000 in back child support and medical bills going back to the child's birth, plus 10 percent interest. The state seized money from his bank account and is garnisheeing his wages at $380 a month.

FEAR AND FRUSTRATION

He has become one of the state's 153,000 active child-support cases, according to the Arizona Department of Economic Security division of Child Support Services.

In May alone, payments were not made in 49 percent of those cases, according to the agency.

Olivas' fear has turned to frustration.

He wants to be in his daughter's life and is willing to pay child support going forward. But he says it's not right for the state to charge him for fees incurred when he was still a child himself or for the years he didn't know the girl existed.

"Anything I do as an adult, I should be responsible for," he said. "But as a teenager? I don't think so."

Situations such as Olivas' are rare, according to fathers-rights advocates. But cases in several states have garnered attention. Although there has been some public outcry over charging a crime victim with child support, the courts have consistently said states have every right to do so.

KANSAS, CALIFORNIA CASES

The most well-known case was of a Kansas boy who, at age 13, impregnated his 17-year-old baby-sitter. Under Kansas law, a child under the age of 15 is legally unable to consent to sex. The Kansas Supreme Court in 1993 ruled that he was liable for child support.

“We don't see those cases very often, and we're really glad for that --”
attorney Janet Sell, chief counsel with the Attorney General's Office's Child and Family Protection Division
California issued a similar state court ruling a few years later in the case of a 15-year-old boy who had sex with a 34-year-old neighbor. In that case, the woman had been convicted of statutory rape.

In both cases, it was the state social-services agency that pursued the case after the mother sought public assistance.

"The Kansas court determined that the rape was irrelevant and that the child support was not owed to the rapist but rather to the child," said Mel Feit, director of the New York-based advocacy group the National Center for Men.

In Arizona, the Department of Economic Security oversees child--support enforcement. Its written policy is not to exempt situations like Olivas' from child-support responsibilities, unless the parent seeking child support has been found guilty of sexual assault with a minor or sexual assault.

"We don't see those cases very often, and we're really glad for that," said attorney Janet Sell, chief counsel with the Attorney General's Office's Child and Family Protection Division.

FOCUS ON THE CHILD

But DES officials said the intent of the rule is to ensure that the child, who had no control over the situation, is cared for.

Feit said if the roles were reversed and the woman was the victim, the scenario would be unthinkable.

"The idea that a woman would have to send money to a man who raped her is absolutely off-the-charts ridiculous," he said. "It wouldn't be tolerated, and it shouldn't be tolerated."


USA TODAY
California adopts 'yes means yes' law
Feit said the basic legal premise of a rape is that the victim can't be held responsible. And with statutory rape, even if the victim participates, he or she can't be held responsible.

"We're not going to hold him responsible for the sex act, so to then turn around and say we're going to hold him responsible for the child that resulted from that act is off-the-charts ridiculous," he said. "It makes no sense."

Arizona also has no exemption for children born to children, although the state cannot get a court order for child support against the non-custodial parent until that parent becomes an adult.

It also doesn't matter to the state whether the non-custodial parent knows about the child or not. Child support is a separate legal issue from custody.

The state requires parents seeking public assistance under the state's welfare programs to first pursue child support. The child-support payments then are used to help reimburse the state for assistance payments.

"They have to comply with us," said Scott Lekan, DES child support operations administrator. "We're trying to keep them off the cash assistance, and we're trying to get back some of the cash assistance money. It benefits everybody at the end of the day."

The state has more routes than the courts to acquire money from a parent. It can garnishee wages up to 50 percent of disposable income. It can take a tax refund. It can put a lien on a home or a vehicle. It can suspend driver's licenses or revoke passports. And it can seize money out of bank accounts.

"Our biggest source of income is from income-withholding orders to employers," Lekan said.

Under Arizona's child-support formula, non-custodial parents may keep their first $903 to cover their own living expenses. A child-support payment amount is then set based on the remaining money.

Olivas is trying to fight some of the child-support costs, but says he can't afford a lawyer.

He also is trying to see his daughter.

"I lost my mom at a young age. I know what it's like to only have one parent," he said. "I can't leave her out there. She deserves a dad."

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 06:07 pm
@BillRM,
OK. Put it another way: say the woman was 16 when lonely boy knockered her up. Why shouldn't he pay child support when we try children as adults in capital cases.

Funny how un-raped he felt up until he got served. Let him pay.

Tell me he wasn't trying to nail the neighbor's 14yrold daughter. And the other neighbors wife. You do remember being 14m don't you, BillRM?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 06:28 pm
@BillRM,
Well I see, by way of vote downs, that there are at least two members that support female rapists getting rewarded for their crimes of raping y0ung male minors.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 06:46 pm
@BillRM,
Not at all. All rape is wrong and needs to be punished severely. This one particular case doesn't seem to be rape. It seems to be more of chickens coming home to roost.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 07:05 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Not at all. All rape is wrong and needs to be punished severely. This one particular case doesn't seem to be rape. It seems to be more of chickens coming home to roost.


a completely empty statement til you have defined how you are using the word "rape".
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 08:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
Interesting double standard as if a 13 years old female was seduced by a twenty years male there would be no question that that would be rape but if it is a 13 years old male and a twenty years old woman then according to someone like bobsal it does not seems to be rape.

Double sexual standards even when it come to male/female children.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 08:32 pm
@BillRM,
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Double sexual standards even when it come to male/female children

I am not opposed to double standards. For me equality over all but not in things specific is the standard, I believe in separate but equal.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 09:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
The current feminist project to rub out the genders I find to be particularly abusive and offensive. Outside of their project to corrupt justice to do their bidding it is in my opinion the worst project that the feminists have attempted.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 13 Feb, 2015 09:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
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The current feminist project to rub out the genders


Oh? I do not see them trying to rub out genders.

In fact they are focusing on granting special protections and rights to the female gender and taking rights away from the male gender such as the right to have due process and the right to face your accuser when charge with sexual misconduct toward females on college campuses for example.
 

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