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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 06:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
Let me know when you become a university president. Laughing

Meanwhile, I'll take fries with my order, and bring me a coke as well, but hold the BS. Laughing
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 07:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
See? I was right. What in the world did your ex-girlfriend ever do to you?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 07:13 pm
@firefly,
See? I told you so. He's got to be holding some personal heartbreak in his past color his attitude towards all women. What a lox.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 07:14 pm
@firefly,
This president has already been fired once, that for failure to move fast enough to adapt the University to the financial crisis it is in, no doubt that prepped her to this time to decide "I am going to jump on this!". I dont care, wrong is wrong. You dont indict the frat system on the basis of a Rolling Stone article, and if your basis is something else they you say what it is.

She needs to be fired again, and this time it needs to stick.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 07:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
So why don't you take your foil hat off and argue like an adult?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 07:16 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

So why don't you take your foil hat off and argue like an adult?


why dont you make an argument rather than only demonizing the other people in the room? Could it be that you have nothing to offer?
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 08:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Hawkeye apparently believes...
http://pfimbiyangu.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/being-an-ass-is-part-of-my-manly-esssence.jpg
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 08:36 pm
@firefly,
Hawkeye believes that talking **** about the other people in the room does not mean that you are right in your opinion of the subject being discussed, or even that you understand it. To prove that you need to make an argument, and bring evidence helps your cause. Though as you know I dont mind being an asshole, it is being right and understanding the world that I care about.

In the last 8 posts in this thread I am the only one who has attempted to speak on the subject. Does anyone care to join me?
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 10:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
The subject is rape--I've been waiting over 4 years for you to address it. All you ever do is deny or minimize or trivialize or rationalize it.

If there are 2 sides to this argument, one is anti-rape, and the other is pro-rape, and which side you're on is quite clear.

You can't address the real rapes that go on in the world, like the rape of an 85 year old nun behind her church, or the rape of a 100 year old in her own home, or the rape of a 95 year old in her nursing home bed, by the owner of the nursing home, all of which occurred recently, and all of which contribute to the statistics of how many women are raped over the course of their lifetime, a lifetime that can be quite long. There appears to be no age limit at which a woman can be safe from the possibility of being raped.

You'd rather promote your paranoid delusions that attempts to reduce incidents of sexual assaults/rapes, and hold perpetrators accountable, are sending a message that "MEN SUCK!"--and are evidence of some kind of "war on young men", by phantom nameless man-hating "feminists" you believe omnipotently control the government, and all university and government research, rigging all studies and outcomes of research in this area. You are batshit crazy and incapable of having a rational objective discussion of this topic.

Why would anyone care to join you, to listen to more of your paranoid hyperbole, and emotional hysteria, Chicken Little?

In your warped mind, the topic of rape is all about the persecution of men--all men--and not about the criminal act it actually is, that necessitates the attempts to decrease it's prevalence, and adequately punish the perpetrators, so that it doesn't continue to be a crime that can be committed with relative impunity.

Your gas bag pontifications, and emotional hysteria about "a war on men", are hardly speaking on the subject of rape rationally, and, at this point, they've just become repetitious, tedious, tiresome, and of no real interest. Unless BillRM shows up, so the two of you can do some juvenile male-bonding by bashing women, or nononono shows up with his canned men's rights activists propaganda, and tries to suck up to you, you pretty much are ignored, and have been for quite some time.
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Though as you know I dont mind being an asshole...

Oh, is that ever true--you prove it over and over again. Laughing And watching you do it is a source of great amusement.

You're just another internet garden variety whack job, who pathetically thinks he's hot ****, and really has something meaningful to say, despite being mainly ignored, ridiculed, or insulted, by most posters here. Reality sucks, doesn't it, Hawkeye? Laughing It's more fun under your tin foil hat where you can address your imaginary audience.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 10:53 pm
@firefly,
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You're just another internet garden variety whack job, who pathetically thinks he's hot ****, and really has something meaningful to say, despite being mainly ignored, ridiculed, or insulted, by most posters here.
'The sexual trangression threads get a lot of play, as we all can see, because A2K provides a view counter for each thread.

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The subject is rape--I've been waiting over 4 years for you to address it.
Spoken like a feminist who insists that any views on the subject of sexual tragression that are not part of the feminist script dont count. We have been talking about sexual trangressions at A2K for years, with lots of different views and lots of different angles. Dont bother pissing in my ear and telling me it is raining, I know the difference and so does almost everyone else here.

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You'd rather promote your paranoid delusions that attempts to reduce incidents of sexual assaults/rapes, and hold perpetrators accountable, are sending a message that "MEN SUCK!"
And you will no doubt tell me that this recent attempt to remove mens constitutional rights by adjudicating sexual trangression allegations at the university level where the men dont have the ability to challenge the accuser, can sometimes have a lawyer in the room but he cant say anything, with a proponderance of the evidence standard rather than a beyond a reasonable doubt standard in front of deciders who may or may not give a damn about justice and are accountable to no one and may or may not know the first thing about human sexual behavior has nothing to do with any hostility towards men. You will of course be lying when you do.

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You are batshit crazy and incapable of having a rational objective discussion of this topic.
Doubting the assertion that 1/5 university women are sexual assaulted of course makes me bat **** crazy and uniformed, I knew that going in and decided to speak my mind anyways. Not agreeing with the feminists carries penalties which increasingly are extreme, but as a lover of truth and justice I cant help myself. Sorry.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 10:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
Let me make this clear....Men, in particular but not limited to adult men, dont agree to give up our Constitutional rights by enrolling in a University. Any Government that insists that we do needs be thrown out on its ass.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 11:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
I have no problem with having sexual assaults/rapes prosecuted in the criminal justice system, as felonies, with all the bells and whistles of due process, rather than in college tribunals. But, the penalties they'd face, if convicted, would be a hell of a lot harsher than just getting kicked off a campus, and their mug shots, just for being charged, would be all over the internet, but those things don't bother you.

That you keep insisting I'm a feminist, shows just how off-the-mark you are, about both my views, and feminism. Laughing

You never do seem to know what the hell you are talking about. Your absurd grandiosity protects you from realizing that.

Page views of a thread, where relatively very few people are actually posting, means nada. An awful lot of people may simply enjoy watching you make an asshole of yourself. Laughing

Ignorance isn't bliss, schmuck, it's just ignorance. And you've got a boatload of it.

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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 11:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
why dont you make an argument rather than only demonizing the other people in the room? Could it be that you have nothing to offer?

Bobsal never makes serious arguments. All he ever has to offer is name-calling of the most vile sort.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 11:23 pm
@firefly,
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That you keep insisting I'm a feminist, shows just how off-the-mark you are, about both my views, and feminism
Your views on sexual assault do not deviate from those who took their anti sex anti male moralism, packaged it up in legalese, and went into partnership with the government to ramrod their will home through the law and government bullying. The only exception that I know about is that even you are appalled by this effort to circumvent the legal system on university student allegations where as it was their idea, and you at least play lip service to not liking all of the sexual assault that goes on under the governments eyes in the governments prisons where as they cant bring themselves to even object most of the time (our partners who are letting us run sex law turn a blind eye to sexual assault in prison? Lets ignore it, maybe no one will notice that our partners are hypocrites).

But go ahead, tell me the top three places where you dont agree with the feminists. This should be instructional.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 11:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
My only views on sexual assault, which I've voiced for years, are that I want the current state sexual assault/rape laws upheld and enforced.

You're such a delusional, and self-deluded, jerk it's pathetic.

Go pontificate and preach to your imaginary audience. Laughing
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 07:25 am
@hawkeye10,
So you admit, you haven't read anything I've written. I post more fact and less personal stuff than you and the rest the He-Man-Wimmen-Haters Club put together.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Foz9gbrXxf9M%2Fhqdefault.jpg&f=1
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 07:26 am
@firefly,
Believes? Epitomizes!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 07:30 am
@hawkeye10,
Repeating the same lie over and over is furthering the conversation the same way ad hominem does.

Where your self-righteous fury for personal attack with your little buddies, nonono the Manga fan(you know about Manga, don't you? Violently anti women content) and BillM?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 07:32 am
The Creepy Misogynist Movement That's Making Conservatives Even More Sexist
http://www.alternet.org/gender/creepy-misogynist-movement-thats-making-conservatives-even-more-sexist

Denying that sexism is a real problem is a standard talking point on the right these days. But recently, it seems that simply denying the existence of sexism is not enough. Instead, conservatives on Fox News and other right-wing outlets seem to want to take it a step further, arguing that, in 21st-century America, women are actually oppressing men. It’s similar to the long-standing habit of many on the right to declare themselves victims of “reverse racism.”

In this case, many of the tropes and obsessions come directly from a fringe, online movement that calls itself “men’s rights activism." MRA rhetoric is notable for being intensely paranoid, seeing women as a subversive group that is out to get men. They argue that feminism--particularly feminism that addresses the problem of violence against women--is not an egalitarian movement as advertised, but a darkly evil movement that invents the problems of sexism, rape and domestic violence in order to gain power over men. It’s all very silly and hard to take seriously, except that some of the rhetorical gambits of MRAs are actually being trotted out by supposedly mainstream conservatives. The result is that the already misogynist right is getting even more misogynist.

The influence of MRA thinking was all over the recent story of Missouri state legislator Rick Brattin, who introduced a bill that would require women to get permission from the man who impregnated them in order to get an abortion. The story was notable not just because this runs counter to what the mainstream anti-choice movement prefers to do--their line now is that they want to restrict abortion to “protect” women--but also because Brattin’s explanations of his thinking were pure MRA paranoia and misogyny.

Brattin argued that men are the real victims of reproductive oppression and that his bill was just evening the score, by claiming men in Missouri are not allowed to get vasectomies without their wives permission. (Never mind that his bill would go well beyond that, giving a man the power to force a woman to give birth even if she had only had sex with him once.) There is no such law in Missouri, and it’s possible that Brattin confused his doctor’s personal choice to ask for wives to sign off, with an actual law. But regardless of how cognizant he is of what actually happened to him, his argument was crystal-clear: Women are oppressing men and taking away their basic bodily autonomy, and so it’s only “fair” for men to get to do the same to women.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 01:40 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
After 8 consecutive off topic posts in this thread you come up with a cut and paste that at least touches to subject matter.


Congrats! I knew you could do it!

I note that in 2014 men standing up for mens rights get pretty much the same treatment that women who stood up for womens rights around 1957 got.
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