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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2014 03:33 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Thanks for posting that link to your Cosby thread, FS. That's really where people should comment on that matter.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2014 03:36 pm
@firefly,
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Only 8 states have no statute of limitations on sexual assaults

what is your source?

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Indiana is among just seven states with a statute of limitations of five years or less for filing rape charges. In 11 states, the statute of limitations is from six to 9 years. In 12 others, it ranges from 10 to 20 years. And 20 states have no limit at all.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2014/02/16/when-rape-is-not-a-crime-indiana-case-spotlights-statute-of-limitations/5522625/

These laws are getting systematically rewritten to feminist specs. Already almost all state have no time limits at all on crimes against those under the age of consent.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2014 04:20 pm
@hawkeye10,

'No, that article you posted, says there has been no real outcry about the five year statute of limitations on rape in Indiana.

And, in Kansas, where changes were made in the statute of limitations, it was after lawmakers listened to rape survivors stories.
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Anita Carpenter, CEO of the Indiana Coalition Against Sexual Assault, said 'there has been no real outcry about the five-year limit on rape charges.

“The only thing we’ve been having discussion on, and they have been very preliminary, is eliminating the statute of limitation for child sex abuse cases because children are often afraid to come forward,” she said....

Kansas lawmakers took up the topic in 2013 and eliminated the state’s five-year statute of limitations for rape.

The change was driven by dramatic victim testimony, said Joyce Grover, executive director of the Kansas Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence.

“There was this feeling that there were a lot of rapists out there that had not been apprehended and that they would never be held accountable,” she said of opposition to the five-year limit.

Grover said the widespread collection of DNA evidence also contributed to the change....

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2014/02/16/when-rape-is-not-a-crime-indiana-case-spotlights-statute-of-limitations/5522625/

You're still not in the area of telling the truth. Most states have a statute of limitations on crimes of sexual assault, and there is no evidence of a feminist conspiracy to change that. Females, particularly those who have been sexually assaulted, have been speaking out, and that's been recently true on campuses as well. And their voices are being heard. That has nothing to do with feminism or your paranoid feminist conspiracies.

Go buy more tin foil.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VvVfHHaDJmY/UXQyk5f5MzI/AAAAAAAAAU8/Yc31OcaTNLk/s1600/tinfoil-hat-2.jpg

BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 03:37 am
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye get this another woman just claimed she been raped in 1969 or so at age 19 , two separate times repeat two separate times by Cosby and after the first time she willingly went to his hotel room and allowed him to give her a second drug drink!!!!!!!!!!

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/lawyer-bill-cosby-won-address-sexual-abuse-allegations-article-1.2012654

Despite the alleged attack, Tarshis accepted an invitation days later to attend a performance Cosby gave at The Westbury Music Theater on Long Island. She said Cosby plied her with more alcohol.

“The next thing I remember was waking up in his (hotel) bed naked,” she wrote. “I remember thinking, ‘You old s---,’ I guess you got me this time, but it’s the last time you’ll ever see me.”
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revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 07:40 am
@firefly,
I agree with those in Kansas, they have the right of it. I personally don't understand why child molesters serve so little time only to get out and do the same again.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 09:41 am
@revelette2,
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I personally don't understand why child molesters serve so little time only to get out and do the same again.


Our US laws are very very strange as having pictures of children being molested will get you up to 27 years or more in some cases but for the child molesters themselves they tend to get far lesser sentences and as you had said are free to do it again in many cases.

Of course all the US sentencing such as three strikes laws where very minor offenses can get a person a lifetime sentence to our drugs laws are irrational.

Ten times repeat ten times the percents of our citizens behind bars then the UK for example and yet the people who should be lock up for good are in many cases not being locked up for good.
revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 11:14 am
@BillRM,
I think child molesters should get more time, and I also agree about drug offenders should get less time or no time. However, I don't agree about people possessing child porn getting less time. It is a more or a less a perverted bracket exploiting children to be on those magazines and men or women who buy them contribute to it by fulfilling the profit margin when they buy them or look at them.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 11:37 am
@revelette2,
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It is a more or a less a perverted bracket exploiting children to be on those magazines and men or women who buy them contribute to it by fulfilling the profit margin when they buy them or look at them.


Sorry but those pictures/videos that are sold are a tiny tiny tiny percent of all child porn most are either traded or given for free over p2p networks and magazines as a means for child porn have plenty must disappear since the internet have mature to the point that pictures and even videos can be transfer in a few minutes.

Far lighter sentences such as in the UK and mandatory treatments/monitoring for those who have no history of directly harming children seems call for not tying up prisons cells at 30 to 40 thousands dollars a year with little to no gain.


The US with it harsh punishment does not have less of such tradings then the UK for example so all we seems to be doing is wasting resources.
revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 11:40 am
@BillRM,
It is exploiting children. Period. The people who promote are guilty and the ones who are customers are guilty and both should be criminalized to the fullest extent.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 11:58 am
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

It is exploiting children. Period. The people who promote are guilty and the ones who are customers are guilty and both should be criminalized to the fullest extent.


Most child porn is given away, not sold. There are no customers.

BTW: I have in the last year seen more child porn than I had seen in over a decade, on Tumblr. It is produced in Eastern Europe and Russia. Not sure how the supply gets turned off without completely changing the Internet, as some are proposing we do. Super harsh penalties on the few US suppliers the government can find are not going to make a dent. We are ladeling out the cruel and unusual punishment for little benefit.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 12:30 pm
@revelette2,
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customers are guilty and both should be criminalized to the fullest extent.


You do understand that there are few customers in the sense of commerce customers for this material or do you?

Once more we are gaining nothing but beginning to replaced the people in prisons for minor drug crimes with people that for the most part have no criminal records are tax paying citizens who have not directly harm one person either adult or child.

Having a Miami firefighter in prison for example for 27 years repeat 27 years for having such material without either paying for it or directly harming one child is insane.

At a direct cost to the taxpayers of roughly a million dollars not including the loss of a highly train firefighter and tax payer.

The law should have some useful purposes other then making us feel good by such over the top punishment for such sick behaviors.

Oh and useful purpose is not keeping the prison industry at full employment.


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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 01:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
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BTW: I have in the last year seen more child porn than I had seen in over a decade, on Tumblr.


Warning to you and anyone else for that matter running across what can be consider child porn when surfing the net could cause you a serous future problems.

Most everything you see is save in the browser cache with no need for you to save the material yourself.

If then someone with a little knowledge examine your hard drive and come across this material you can be facing a not minor legal problem.

That is just one reason I have my browser in a sandbox and everything is over written once I close the browser.

To say nothing of having the drive encrypted so once the power is off I am the only one in the world able to access it again.

One poor young man was convicted of having child porn on the basic of one repeat one thumbnail of a jpg that was no longer on his drive.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 02:18 pm
You two are playing semantics with the word "customers." Fine, the ones who look at child porn and the ones who make them are exploiting children and both should be held as criminals and sentenced accordingly. The ones making them wouldn't be making them if no one was going to look at them, unless the one making them also looks at them, in which case that person would be doubly guilty.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 02:29 pm
@revelette2,
In all your years on the internet have you ever come across anything relating to child pornography. Hawkeye has, and he's noticed an increase in the amount available, and seems to know quite a lot about its provenance.

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know?
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 02:48 pm
@revelette2,
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The ones making them wouldn't be making them if no one was going to look at them, unless the one making them also looks at them, in which case that person would be doubly guilty.


Why would you think that those who are molesting children are doing so mainly for the benefits of those who enjoy seeing such material and I guess would not do so if they could not share their sick behaviors by way of pictures/videos with others?????

In fact in a way it is better if molesters would place such material on the net as not a few children had been rescued due to those pictures that would never had been found but for those sick pictures.

The main crime is the molesting in the first place not the taking of pictures of the molesting.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 02:55 pm
@firefly,

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If you want to avoid crossing the line into rape, you must be sure you have consent.


Rape isn't taken seriously. All a female has to do is have a drink and it's her fault. This article pretty much states that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-416692/Police-claim-drugged-date-rape-victims-simply-drunk.html

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Mr Rhodes said it was not surprising that almost all victims were found to have been drinking, as date rape drugs had far more effect on victims when combined with alcohol.

The latest findings echo the results from Forensic Science Service report last year which concluded that alcohol was 'clearly the most commonly used substance' in drug-assisted rape.

Recent legal reforms were designed to secure more rape convictions by making it clear that a drunk person cannot consent to sex.

But juries still appear less willing to convict in cases where the victim was drunk, and offenders know they are more likely to escape justice.

Out of 120 claimed cases, 119 of the victims had reportedly been drinking.

Blood tests confirmed the presence of alcohol in half of all cases - although some were reported several days after the incident.




Now we have video games created by men, for men. Where women are being subjected to threats of rape, murder and worse. I sound like a feminist I guess but I'm just shocked at what I am reading out there...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/women-threatened-with-rape-murder-in-gamergate-scandal/5887020

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Things fired up further when other women, like game developer Brianna Wu, came out in support of Ms Quinn, the woman at the centre of this revenge attack.




They threatened to murder any of my children that I might have because they would grow up to, you know, want women to be equal.

Brianna Wu



Ms Wu said she was harassed and abused online.

"They threatened to murder me, to rape me," she said.

"They threatened to sever my husband's genitals and choke me to death with them.

"They threatened to murder any of my children that I might have because they would grow up to, you know, want women to be equal."

Ms Wu was forced to flee her home after her personal details and address were posted online in an attack known as "doxxing".

American actor and video gamer, Felicia Day, who is known for her roles in sci-fi series Supernatural and Buffy The Vampire Slayer, was also doxxed just minutes after speaking publicly about GamerGate.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 02:56 pm
@izzythepush,
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In all your years on the internet have you ever come across anything relating to child pornography. Hawkeye has, and he's noticed an increase in the amount available, and seems to know quite a lot about its provenance.


A fast google search of trumblr and child porn came up with 19 millions hits of cases of people placing such material on trumblr that anyone could come across, and trumblr is not alone as facebook and twitter also have that problem.

I am not on trumblr so I do not know how it work but I assume that anyone looking for adult porn is in danger of coming across such material, just as anyone who used a p2p network looking for adult porn will run into file names of what is claimed to be child porn.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 03:00 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
A fast google search of trumblr and child porn came up with 19 millions hits of cases of people placing such material on trumblr that anyone could come across, and trumblr is not alone as facebook and twitter also have that problem.


Only people like you do fast google searches for child pornography. If you don't go looking for it you don't find it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 03:01 pm
@izzythepush,
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Only people like you do fast google searches for child pornography. If you don't go looking for it you don't find it.


Wrong as always...................
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2014 03:04 pm
@BillRM,
So far the only two people who seem to have found it are you two. And you've both gone looking for it. You're so divorced from reality you don't have a clue what normal is.
 

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