@firefly,
Nope firefly, you're not getting away with denying your bigotry this time.
The two "journalists" that you've chosen to support your position, are well known hacks. They are not respected, and are in fact both misandrists. This is widely accepted. And Futrelle is in fact even a child porn supporter and rape apologist. (Guess you didn't Google enough, did ya bitch!)
(I've included both a link to AVFM stories on these people AND another story for each so that it can't be claimed as "Misogyny".)
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/reading-the-politics-of-pornography/Content?oid=883416
http://www.avoiceformen.com/hangouts/intelligence-report-is-david-futrelle-a-perv-apologist/
Amanda Hess is well known for her bigotry and hatred.
http://ethicsalarms.com/2014/09/25/slates-amanda-hesss-very-very-embarrassing-essay-about-why-its-very-very-stupid-to-compare-hope-solo-to-ray-rice/
http://au.avoiceformen.com/misandry/the-ironical-irony-of-ironic-misandry/
Quote:Personally, I don't care about the slogans these women want to wear. I can see the ironic humor
Quote:I don't think they are harming anyone with a T-shirt that says, "I bathe in men's tears". If you're really such a believer in free speech, and freedom of expression, you should accept their right to do that.
Whenever someone makes light of the suffering of an
entire group of people, that is bigotry. Period. You can't backpedal from this firefly; you are a bigot. Your bigotry is out in the open in the form of these quotes for everyone to see. You can't hide from it. I've bookmarked it, and I'll re-quote it everytime I catch you up on your high horse in the future.
I do believe in freedom of speech. I'm not trying to suppress theirs. I'm simply using
my freedom of speech to point out
obvious bigotry.
But let's play devil's advocate for a moment. If you see nothing wrong with making light of an entire group's suffering, and you believe that others shouldn't be allowed to use their freedom of speech to criticise that bigotry, then you are by default saying that's Ok for people to walk around wearing t-shirts that say:
~I bathe in Muslim tears
~I bathe in faggot tears
~I bathe spic tears
~I bathe in Jew tears
~I bathe in nigger tears
~I bathe in rape victim tears
By default through your justifications, you are condoning that^
What you're also doing is removing your own right to criticise people like hawkeye and Bill when they disagree with you in regards to rape issues. Because remember, the person who says something that others disagree with (according to you) is merely expressing their freedom of speech and should
not be criticised back (according to you), because they could just be being "ironic".
ANYONE who claims that they are an "Ironic Misandrist" is no different than someone who claims that they're an "Ironic Racist". It's a copout designed to allow that person the say and do horrible things, and if anyone calls them out on it they can shrug their shoulders and claim that it's all in good fun.
These kinds of people are sociopaths, and that's what you are firefly.
There is NO such thing as "Ironic hatred". But since you think so, then you shouldn't have ANY qualms with for instance people making fun of female rape victims. Because that is freedom of speech too!