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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 05:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
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School safety in not a prudent investment of time or money.

The NYC School Chancellor would likely not agree with you, nor would most parents who have children in school. We have serious crimes committed against children while in their schools, we have children killed while in school. And all of those is one two many. Most parents want to feel their children will be safe and protected while in school--that the school acts in loco parentis to safeguard their child, and that they should have adequate security to do that.

But, who really cares what you think anyway? You routinely belittle concerns about safety in any situation. Laughing

I think the possible lawsuit these Bronx mothers might file has a good basis.



hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 05:52 pm
@firefly,
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we have children killed while in school
I kid in 5 years, a typical Firefly lie

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Most parents want to feel their children will be safe and protected while in school-
They are, look at the stats

http://www.nyc.gov/html/ops/downloads/pdf/mmr0912/nypd.pdf

5 rapes in one year, 1800 schools and 1.1 million kids. OH baby, things are BAD.BAD.BAD! *sarcasm*

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I think the possible lawsuit these Bronx mothers might file has a good basis.
even if the kids dont recant or are not proved to by lying all the school needs to do is document all the times this parents had been notified that their precious bundles were not following the rules and not chowing up to class. Then their having such a poor relationship with their kids that they did not know about this event for 2 weeks is going to come up. How realistic is this intense monitoring of their kids by the school when they themselves dont do it? Filing suit fast is just another indication that this is not about what the parents claim it is about. It is probably about hurt feelings and potential income.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 06:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
By the numbers children are far far far safer at schools then in their own homes and that include the likelihood of being rape.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 06:41 pm
@BillRM,
did you look at the stats? Unless someone can prove that these stats are wrong we can wash our hands of Firefly's"SAFETY!" argument ( and I think there is reason to question anything that comes out of the NYPD). There are 5000 cops in 1800 NYC schools, and I am not going to do the work to find out but I think there are actually fewer buildings as this district likes to have more than one school in each location, so these kids are very heavily policed. a rape going on inside during school hours? very doubtful. This story tracks like two girls are sexual, but the parental units dont approve, so when they are caught they claim rape.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 06:56 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I kid in 5 years, a typical Firefly lie

I'm not lying, but you sure are.

20 children were killed inside their school in the Newtown Connecticut shooting alone, and many others have been killed in school shootings inside their schools in the past five years.

I was clearly responding to school safety as a general issue, not just in NYC, because you made a general comment about school satety being "not a prudent investment of time or money".
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5 rapes in one year, 1800 schools and 1.1 million kids. OH baby, things are BAD.BAD.BAD! *sarcasm*

And 5 rapes inside NYC schools is 5 rapes too many. That you consider this a statistic to mock with sarcasm suggests, once again, that you prefer to play numbers games, without any regard for those 5 children who were raped while in school.

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This story tracks like two girls are sexual, but the parental units dont approve, so when they are caught they claim rape.

Regarding the rape allegations in that Bronx school--if you think the Bronx D.A. lightly charges a 13 year old with first degree rape--the most serious rape charge--without having evidence to support the charge, you are out of your mind.

You don't care about children being raped, even while in their schools, or exploited in child pornography either. Most normal people do care about such things and do not share your warped values about such things.

I really consider you a pathetic mess, along with your buddy, BillRM, when it comes to your ability to hold your own in any sort of a balanced mature discussion on any serious crimes relating to any aspect of sex. You both do nothing but deny, or trivialize, or minimize, such crimes, or victim blame, or see most females as liars, all the while being bleeding hearts for the perpetrators of such crimes, who you try to promote as the poor "victims" of some sort of paranoid government/feminist conspiracy that's out to get men.

You two deserve each other--you can share your tin foil. Laughing

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:13 pm
@firefly,
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I'm not lying, but you sure are.

20 children were killed inside their school in the Newtown Connecticut shooting alone, and many others have been killed in school shootings inside their schools in the past five years.


I see, I took "we" to be NYC citizens. Like NYC is a dangerous place. Your point was somewhere in America someone gets killed in a school? What is next, are we going to see "the sun when down tonight" advertised by you as news?

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And 5 rapes inside NYC schools is 5 rapes too many. That you consider this a statistic to mock with sarcasm suggests, once again, that you prefer to play numbers games, without any regard for those 5 children who were raped while in school.
something bad happening to someone somewhere eventually should not dictate how we live. That is stupid. 5 rapes in a population of 1.1 million students for 180 days 8 hours a day works out to .0000000032 rapes per student hour. Seems reasonable to me. Unlike you I know that risk in this universe can not be driven to zero no matter how hard we try, at some point it is prudent to stop trying, to do something else with out time and money that will be more productive.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
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something bad happening to someone somewhere eventually should not dictate how we live. That is stupid. 5 rapes in a population of 1.1 million for 180 days 8 hours a day works out to .0000000032 rapes per student hour. Seems reasonable to me.


Anyone who computes rapes, per student hour, while students are inside their school and has an idea in mind for a "reasonable" figure for student rapes inside a school --that's other than anything beyond zero--is a jerk who deserves to be ignored. There's nothing "reasonable", or acceptable, about any student getting raped while in school.

Go play with BillRM...water seeks its own level.

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BillRM
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
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That is stupid. 5 rapes in a population of 1.1 million students for 180 days 8 hours a day works out to .0000000032 rapes per student hour. Seems reasonable to me. Unlike you I know that risk in this universe can not be driven to zero no matter how hard we try, at some point it is prudent to stop trying, to do something else with out time and money that will be more productive.



To say nothing that rapes of children are far more likely to be done by adults members of the children families or friends of the families and not in schools but behind close doors of homes.

An that go for the murders of children also.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide

On average, according to FBI statistics, 450 children are murdered by their parents each year in the US.[3]
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:40 pm
@BillRM,
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To say nothing that rapes of children are far more likely to be done by adults members of the children families or friends of the families and not in schools but behind close doors of homes.

An that go for the murders of children also.

That's a totally illogical argument to make against the notion that school security should be adequate enough to prevent students from becoming the victims of such crimes, while they are in school.

Most rapes are committed by someone known to the victim--and that can, and does, include peers in school.

You and logic, and relevancy, have never been well acquainted.

You'e a joke. Laughing
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:46 pm
@BillRM,
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To say nothing that rapes of children are far more likely to be done by adults members of the children families or friends of the families and not in schools but behind close doors of homes.


"YOU ARE NOT TAKING GOOD ENOUGH CARE OF OUR PRECIOUS BUNDLES!" easily passes into the ridiculous doesn't it. How many times had the schools requested the parents help in convincing these two girls to go to class? How many times had these parents been told that these two kids would have had better grades if they would have shown up to class regularly and otherwise follow the rules? A bunch I bet. The fact that kids are far more likely to get raped at home by a parent than get raped in school is just icing on the cake.

But Firefly is not about to let facts get in the way of her "SAFETY!" argument, she who has spent 5 years spamming A2K rape threads with individual claims of sexual assault when the adults are trying to talk about sexual abuse policy. People get raped, we know this, it has always happened and it always will. Her spam adds nothing to the discussion. Her excuse " I just wanted to remind you that rapes happen" is nonsense since no one had ever forgotten.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:46 pm
@BillRM,

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http://www.d2l.org/site/c.4dICIJOkGcISE/b.6143427/k.38C5/Child_Sexual_Abuse_Statistics.htm

Approximately 30% of children who are sexually abused are abused by family members.12,13
The younger the victim, the more likely it is that the abuser is a family member. Of those molesting a child under six, 50% were family members. Family members also accounted for 23% of those abusing children ages 12 to 17.9
About 60% of children who are sexually abused are abused by people the family trusts.12,13
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:47 pm
@firefly,
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That's a totally illogical argument to make against the notion that school security should be adequate enough to prevent students from becoming the victims of such crimes, while they are in school.

the only place I know of were rape can be 100% prevented is supermax prison. Our schools should never be anything like a supermax prison.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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she who has spent 5 years spamming A2K rape threads with individual claims of sexual assault when the adults are trying to talk about sexual abuse policy.


Strange is it not Hawkeye that when I had posted one example after another concerning false charges of rapes Firefly have stated that individual cases proved nothing.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:58 pm
@BillRM,
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Strange is it not Hawkeye that when I had posted one example after another concerning false charges of rapes Firefly have stated that individual cases proved nothing.


for her no, her go to response when anyone enters evidence that does not support her argument on sexual assault is some version of " But Suzy says she was raped! You don't care about Suzy! You are defective! No one should listen to you!"

This place all to often feels like high school. sometimes middle school.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 07:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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But Firefly is not about to let facts get in the way of her "SAFETY!" argument, she who has spent 5 years spamming A2K rape threads with individual claims of sexual assault when the adults are trying to talk about sexual abuse policy...

For the past five years I've tried to focus on the reality of sexual assault crimes, while you've tried to deny or minimize them, or gotten up on your soapbox to endlessly preach about your alleged murky paranoid government/feminist conspiracy, so you can assert the "sex laws" this alleged conspiracy has passed are all out to get men. Laughing

Ever notice that the majority of men at A2k don't agree with you? Laughing

Stock up on tin foil, Hawkeye. and go play with BillRM Laughing

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nononono
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye, when does firefly not lie? When does she not spread misinformation? When is she not a pompous ass?

She's a waste of time on A2K, because even when you prove her dead wrong she doesn't admit that she made a mistake. Conceited.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:56 pm
@nononono,
http://www.a-1video.com/Jerry%20laughs.gif

I love watching you make an idiot of yourself.

I hope they don't suspend you from A2K again, you provide great comic relief around here. Laughing
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nononono
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:56 pm
@hawkeye10,
Remember when firefly kept saying that Eliot Roger was an MRA, and then when it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had ZERO involvement in the MRM, that she couldn't even admit that she was wrong.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154624177460467&set=o.808848089137323&type=3&theater

And let's NEVER forget that she's a bigot and a racist too, as her dealings with me have proven.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:56 pm
@nononono,
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because even when you prove her dead wrong she doesn't admit that she made a mistake.

She is never wrong, the rest of us simply fail to understand her words. I keep telling her that she needs to provide us with a dictionary of her personal definitions since she is making a habit of not using the definitions the rest of us have in our dictionaries when she uses words.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:57 pm
@nononono,
http://www.a-1video.com/Jerry%20laughs.gif

Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?

You and Hawkeye and BillRM make a cute trio. Laughing

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