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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:23 pm
@firefly,
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You have no idea, from any of the crime statistics, how many women are sexually assaulted each year?


It all depends on what is being defined assault. Have you seen that viral video claiming that a woman was harassed 100 times on the street, to include guys saying hi to her as she walked by...or " have a nice day" ? We have women claiming ( or more often the women claiming that no assault took place but the feminist/state cooperative claiming that it did and since they are the only ones who get a say it by definition did happen) that they where sexually assaulted because a males hand inadvertently touched their ass at a party, or because a guy promised to take a girl to dinner after they get done with sex but only sprung for McD's so lets all be clear about what we are talking about MKay?
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:29 pm
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The Tables Turn on College Rape
09/05/2014
by Amy Siskind

As our country moves forward with awareness and acknowledgment of the epidemic of rape on campus, someone's been left behind: our college men. While momentum is growing for a Senate bill which cracks down on sexual assault on campus, college men are grumbling about their plight. One frat boy at Harvard lamented that he doesn't even know if he should serve women alcohol anymore! While a Stanford guy griped, "Some men feel that too much responsibility for preventing sexual assault has been put on their shoulders." Up till recently, things were neatly as they should be: college women shouldered all the burden of not being raped -- and blame if they were victims. But now, as the school year gets underway, college guys suddenly have to worry about new concepts like consequences for their actions -- and that dreaded word, accountability. This is so unfair!

No, this is not an excerpt from The Onion or a SNL skit. This is the on-campus reality. As the default setting of 'victim blame' dissipates, we are finally beginning to grapple with an epidemic which impacts 1 in 5 women on campus.

The rape crisis on campus is not new, but our acceptance of it's existence sure is. Exactly four years ago today, I wrote an article here, "Back to School, Back to Rape," highlighting a DOJ report with startling findings on the prevalence of college rape. The comments to my column were representative of the mood in our country at the time: that the rape statistics were likely alarmist and disputable, and even in the off-chance true, it was college women's fault for drinking alcohol and dressing provocatively (read: the victims deserved it). This meme conveniently cast college men as helpless victims of their surging, ever-present hormones -- incapable of separating things like right and wrong, good and bad, moral and immoral.

That was George Will's argument when he penned an op-ed in June. Will decried that the rape crisis being brought to light by the Obama administration was a made-up concoction in which college women were conveniently using the "coveted status" of rape victim to make college men -- who were, of course, helplessly fueled by a "sea of hormones and alcohol" -- look bad. It was clear we were at a turning point when social media erupted. Will's column was condemned by everyone (including US Senators) other than a few conservative allies, and he was summarily dropped by the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

Credit does go to President Obama who, after countless Title IX complaints were filed by college students alleging that their schools did not provide a safe environment, addressed our nation in April and provided research data and steps forward. For starters, the US Department of Education was empowered to investigate these complaints. So far, 76 colleges are under investigation, and the list is growing. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has taken the lead on legislation to hold colleges accountable as well, which is gathering bi-partisan support in the Senate.

Back to college men. As the concepts of accountability and consequences enter the fray, I have a few suggestions for the guys based on the 76 colleges under investigation.

1. If a woman is unconscious or incapacitated, don't have sex with her. Walk her home to safety or get help.

2. Don't put rape date drugs in other people drinks.

3. Try to imagine your female classmates as people, not prey. No, means no.

4. If you see a woman being sexually assaulted by a man or group of men, do not take photos or video footage. Intervene!

5. When you're drunk and feel the urge, try not to wander into your dorm-mate's room and hold her down. That's not hooking up. That's rape!

Sarcasm aside, I'm grateful that we're having the conversation, and that our college men are examining their behavior in the mix...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-siskind/the-tables-turn-on-colleg_b_5769910.html?utm_hp_ref=breakingthesilence
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:33 pm
@firefly,
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Sarcasm aside, I'm grateful that we're having the conversation, and that our college men are examining their behavior in the mix..


and hopefully these men, and the women who love them, are reconsidering the states claims of jurisdiction to void these mens constitution rights.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:34 pm
@firefly,
I stopped reading that when I came to the first line of the third paragraph. Any writer who doesn't know that there's no apostrophe in the possessive 'its' has no business getting published, even on the internet.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:36 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:

I stopped reading that when I came to the first line of the third paragraph. Any writer who doesn't know that there's no apostrophe in the possessive 'its' has no business getting published, even on the internet.

Laughing Laughing Laughing




Yes, your arguments are a superb example of elitist scum.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
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It all depends on what is being defined assault.

I was clearly talking about rape, you schmuck. And you failed to address the things I did say.

I guess you really are dumb, and not just pretending.

It's best you stick to conversing with the equally dumb, if not dumber, BillRM, since responding to either of you simply gives both of you an excuse to post more of your crap.



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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 05:43 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
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I stopped reading that when I came to the first line of the third paragraph. Any writer who doesn't know that there's no apostrophe in the possessive 'its' has no business getting published, even on the internet.

Please, compared to BillRM's illiterate, and often incoherent, gibberish, that he's allowed to post here all the time, that writer is pretty flawless. Laughing I'm surprised you don't have BillRM on ignore simply for the way he brutally murders the English language. Laughing
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 06:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Have you seen that viral video claiming that a woman was harassed 100 times on the street, to include guys saying hi to her as she walked by...or " have a nice day" ?


LOL Hawkeye, I remember when I was a young man walking through the student union when a breath taking woman walked by me going in the opposite directions and I found myself turning around and following her into the cafeteria line telling her that I had just fallen madly in love with her.

This kind of behavior was completely atypical as I was normally far far more bashful toward women but it work out just fine as I ended up dating this beautiful woman for six months or so.

Bet now days they would have kicked me out of the university after a Kangaroo hearing for daring to harassed her.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 07:53 pm
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College Students Around the U.S. Are Carrying Mattresses to Fight Campus Rape
10/29/14

A Columbia University senior's performance art project has become a powerful social movement.

College students across the country are dragging some baggage behind them today. As part of the Carry That Weight National Day of Action against campus sexual assault, students are taking mattresses, pillows, and blankets with them to class.

Columbia University undergraduate student Emma Sulkowicz inspired the day of protest. Sulkowicz was sexually assaulted by an acquaintance at the beginning of her sophomore year. After she reported the crime, the university held a hearing to determine whether to kick Sulkowicz's alleged attacker out of school. In a New York magazine profile, Sulkowicz says the experience was humiliating and that one of the adjudicators “kept asking me to explain the position I was in” during the attack.

According to Sulkowicz, the student who raped her is still in school despite that two other women have come forward and accused him of similar assaults. In response, Sulkowicz vowed to carry her mattress with her from class to class until the university expels him. It’s become her senior thesis project—a piece of performance art with deeply personal significance.

Other students sometimes show up to help Sulkowicz carry the bed—a practical and symbolic gesture.

"Mattresses are heavy and unwieldy. We can only get through this day if we collaborate and help each other carry this weight,” Sulkowicz wrote in the Columbia Spectator.

This issue of sexual assault on campus goes beyond Columbia University. Campus sexual assault, and the manner in which universities handle accusations, has received a flood of national attention in recent months. According to the National Institute of Justice, between 20 percent and 25 percent of women will experience an assault or an attempted assault. Only around 5 percent of victims report the crime.

A poll of MIT students found that one in six undergraduate women had been sexually assaulted at school.

California passed a law known as "Yes Means Yes" that would require universities to have an affirmative consent policy to qualify for some state funding. The White House launched the It’s on Us campaign in September to raise awareness of the larger community’s role in responding to sexual assault.

On Wednesday students at schools around the United States posted pictures of themselves carrying mattresses with the hashtag #CarryThatWeight:
http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/10/29/carrying-mattresses-end-sexual-assault

It should be noted that Ms. Sulkowicz report of her sexual assault involves an allegation of anal rape by a fellow student who was an acquaintance, and the recently released survey by MIT of its own students, found that, of those that responded, 17% of female undergraduates reported an experience that fits the survey’s definition of sexual assault-- “unwanted sexual behaviors … involving use of force, physical threat, or incapacitation”.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 08:04 pm
@firefly,
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17% of female undergraduates reported an experience that fits the survey’s definition of sexual assault-- “unwanted sexual behaviors … involving use of force, physical threat, or incapacitation”.


and 11% said that they agreed that they had been sexually assaulted. Not that their opinion matters of course.
http://time.com/3544323/mit-survey-sexual-assault-college-campus/

Just to be clear, kissing and touching even if not intending to touch the breast or the butt of a woman is under the MIT definition sexual assault. If not nearly 100% of the females there have not been sexually assaulted at a party one needs to wonder why they are such lame partiers.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 08:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Just to be clear, kissing and touching even if not intending to touch the breast or the butt of a woman is under the MIT definition sexual assault.

No, schmuck. That's not exactly true.

The 17% of females reporting sexual assault included only those unwanted behaviors that would violate MIT's policy against sexual misconduct--such as attempted or completed oral sex, penetration, and sexual touching or groping--and which involved the use of force, physical threat, or incapacitation to commit such acts.
Such things are also considered forms of sexual assault under state laws.

MIT's statistics, which should not necessarily be automatically generalized to all populations, do lend support to the 1 in 5 or 1 in 6 sexual assault figures reported in other surveys, and other universities are going to conduct similar sexual climate surveys on their campuses. In addition, the MIT survey found that 5% of the male respondents reported that they had been sexually assaulted.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 08:52 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Just to be clear, kissing and touching even if not intending to touch the breast or the butt of a woman is under the MIT definition sexual assault. If not nearly 100% of the females there have not been sexually assaulted at a party one needs to wonder why they are such lame partiers.


Defining normal interactions between men and women as sexually assaults is a fine way to get those numbers up and demonic young men as a class.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 09:16 pm
@BillRM,
You think that unwanted sexual contacts, such as oral sex, penetration, and sexual touching or groping--and which involved the use of force, physical threat, or incapacitation to commit such acts--are "normal interactions between men and women".? They are not, they are criminal acts of sexual assault already in the state criminal statutes.

That you fawningly believe, or accept, any inaccurate crap that Hawkeye spouts shows just how dumb you are. Laughing

And neither of you obviously care about the 5% of male respondents in the MIT surveywho reported they were sexually abused.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 09:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye this war on our young men is getting so bad that it is a shame that there are no single sex universities any longer that parents could send their sons to.

I guess that given that this feminism craziness is mainly a US phenomenon the parents of sons could begin sending them to foreign schools.

Hell the other benefit is that some of them might meet women that are parts of a saner culture to married and bring home during those years.

Once more Robert Heinlein and his crazy years for the US seems to be becoming true.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 11:28 pm
@BillRM,
Given your extreme paranoid fears of women, I've found the perfect avatar for you--it captures you perfectly. Laughing
http://www.davidmcelroy.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Tin-foil-hat.jpg
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2014 12:21 am
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Rape myth beliefs and bystander attitudes among incoming college students.
McMahon S.
Author information
Center on Violence Against Women & Children, Rutgers University School of Social Work, New Brunswick, New Jersey 08901, USA. [email protected]
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
The bystander approach to rape prevention is gaining popularity on college campuses, although research is limited


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20670923

Ya, it is pretty much always the case that the feminist/state cooperative demands action to save the victims without first making any effort to confirm that the alleged solution works, and sometimes without even documenting that the alleged problem exists.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2014 12:58 am
@hawkeye10,
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It’s On Us” aims to fundamentally shift the way we think about sexual assault, by inspiring everyone to see it as their responsibility to do something, big or small, to prevent it. The campaign reflects the belief that sexual assault isn’t just an issue involving a crime committed by a perpetrator against a victim, but one in which the rest of us also have a role to play. We are committed to creating an environment - be it a dorm room, a party, a bar or club, or the greater college campus - where sexual assault is unacceptable and survivors are supported. This effort will support student-led efforts already underway across the country, and will focus particularly on motivating college men to get involved.

Most men are not comfortable with violence against women, but often don’t speak out because they believe that other men accept this behavior. By getting men involved, we can change this way of thinking and create new social norms. Research shows that bystander intervention can be an effective way of stopping sexual assault before it happens, as bystanders play a key role in preventing, discouraging, and/or intervening when an act of violence has the potential to occur. As the latest CDC report on preventing campus sexual violence shows, wide-ranging, population-based strategies like bystander intervention – which address individual, community, campus, and societal-level factors – have the greatest potential to effect positive and meaningful change. Bystander education and training aims to heighten awareness, challenge social norms, decrease misperceptions about sexual assault, and provide skills that increase one’s confidence to intervene effectivel


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/19/fact-sheet-launch-it-s-us-public-awareness-campaign-help-prevent-campus-

The CDC also very clearly qualifies any claims that it advocacs for bystander prevention programs by saying that there is to date no science to say that it works. In fact it says that the science on sexual violence prevention is thin and that very little has shown evidence of working.

https://www.notalone.gov/assets/evidence-based-strategies-for-the-prevention-of-sv-perpetration.pdf

the statement
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have the greatest potential to effect positive and meaningful change.
is a typical liberal lie through language manipulation. The actual reality is

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have the greatest potential to be shown to effect positive and meaningful change
. The leaving out of a couple of words completely changes the meaning of the statement, and I promise you that this was done on purpose, this is manipulation of language by the elites with the intent to manipulate the behaviour of the subjects.

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Bystander education and training aims to heighten awareness, challenge social norms, decrease misperceptions about sexual assault, and provide skills that increase one’s confidence to intervene effectively

well hell, so long as the intentions are good right? Nothing else matters, such as honesty or effectiveness. I predict that this effort at manipulation will fair about as well as the other ones these people have suffered through, like DARE, Just say no to drugs, and abstinence pledges.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2014 01:16 am
@hawkeye10,
Anyone interesting in taking the newest pledge dictated by the morality minders can do so here:

http://itsonus.org/

I am betting that these university students are loving being treated like they are about 12 years old, complete with being pressured to sign yet another conduct pledge.
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2014 01:22 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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You have no idea, from any of the crime statistics, how many women are sexually assaulted each year?


Have you seen that viral video claiming that a woman was harassed 100 times on the street, to include guys saying hi to her as she walked by...or " have a nice day" ?


The men in the video verbally abused this woman 100 times in 10 hours as she walked down a NYCity street. And,by the way, the comments went far beyond the saying of "hi". The reported, vulgar behavior is typical of the NYmale . That old "macho" type of a man, with a big beer belly, a dirty undershirt , dirty finger nails and the stink of an unwashed body.

I have to laugh at how so many men can be fooled however, when thinking of and interacting with a sexually-attractive woman. Recently, a US marine has been arrested for the murder of a transgendered female prostitute. He killed her ( supposedly) by holding her head under water in the toilet, till she/he stopped breathing.

How do you figure that a US marine couldn't tell the difference between a "real woman" and an"artificial one"?

Miller
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2014 01:41 am
@Miller,
U.S Marine Charged in Murder of Transgender Woman in Philippines

Eliza Gray @elizalgray
Time.com

Oct. 16, 2014
Philippine government now wants to take custody of the Marine, who has been identified as Private First Class Joseph Scott Pemberton

A U.S. Marine has been charged with murder in the killing of a Filipino transgender woman found strangled in a local hotel room last weekend.

A senior Philippine official said Wednesday that the Philippine government wants to take custody of the Marine, who has been identified as Private First Class Joseph Scott Pemberton, and warned that the case could damage the military relationship between the two allies, according to MSN news.

Under a defense agreement between the U.S. and the Philippines, the Philippines can demand custody of a service member who has been involved in a crime. The joint defense pact has stoked tension between the two countries in the past, and the question of the U.S. Marine’s custody in this case may renew those tensions.

Pemberton is currently being held on the USS Peleliu warship in Subic Bay. The marines had been in the Philippines for an annual joint military exercise. All military personnel “still actively involved with the investigation” remain on board the ship, according to a press statement from the U.S. Marine Corps.

Three other marines who are considered possible witnesses are also being held, according to previous news reports. The other four ships previously held at port in Subic Bay during the investigation have been cleared to depart, the Marine Corps announced on Wednesday.

The killing has also ignited emotions in the transgender community in the Philippines, who are calling the death of Jennifer Laude, who was found dead with her head in a toilet bowl, a hate crime. An autopsy report in the case has shown the cause of death as “asphyxia by drowning.”

“We will not accept anything less than justice,” the victim’s sister Marilou Laude said to CNN
 

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